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It's an achievable concept. \n\nThere is also word around that the teams code is pretty good. \n\nKeep holding tight. Don't sell. It's common practice to drive the price down to shake weak hands before major pumps. Almost always there is a major dump before a massive pump. If you look around you'll see these patterns in almost every coin out there. \n\nI'd like for once to see the whales pump without a dump making them actually buy in expensive, this only means higher pumps and benefit for all.\n\n\n\n","updates":1,"time":1507549594000,"first":1516417873753,"totalUpvotes":102,"score":103,"nReplies":18,"html":"\u003cp>BAT is one of, if not, the only project out there that's very close to delivering an actual product that will use the blockchain. It's an achievable concept. \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>There is also word around that the teams code is pretty good. \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Keep holding tight. Don't sell. 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ie if bd b be z ek\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Photo by \u003ca class=\"ae ig\" href=\"https://unsplash.com/@jasonpofahlphotography?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Jason Pofahl\u003c/a> on \u003ca class=\"ae ig\" href=\"https://unsplash.com/s/photos/funds?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Unsplash\u003c/a>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\u003cdiv class=\"\">\u003ch1 id=\"f18a\" class=\"pw-post-title ih ii ij bd ik il im in io ip iq ir is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">How to turn $20M into $340M in 15 seconds\u003c/h1>\u003c/div>\u003ch1 id=\"cbee\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The TL;DR\u003c/h1>\u003cblockquote class=\"ke\">\u003cp id=\"1e24\" class=\"kf kg ij bd kh ki kj kk kl km kn ko ek\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Funds are not safu!\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003ch1 id=\"3095\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr kp jt ju jv kq jx jy jz kr kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Summary\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"cbb8\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Anyone with ~40,000 MKR (about 20,000,000 USD) can steal all of the collateral in Maker DAO, both DAI and SAI, along with a good chunk of assets from Compound, Uniswap, and other Maker integrated systems (over 340,000,000 USD).\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"22b8\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Maker DAO v2 (AKA Multi-Collateral DAI, AKA McDAI) was supposed to launch with safeguards (emergency shutdown and governance delay) against a hostile MKR holder stealing all collateral and potentially robbing a good chunk of Uniswap, Compound, and other systems integrated with Maker in the process. Instead, they decided not to.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"2a2f\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Bank\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"e092\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Maker DAO. It is the thing that makes DAI work. It currently has about 340M USD worth of ETH locked in it across their v1 and v2 releases. It also is a “governed” system, unlike \u003ca class=\"ae ig\" href=\"https://uniswap.exchange\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">https://uniswap.exchange\u003c/a> or \u003ca class=\"ae ig\" href=\"https://augur.net\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">https://augur.net\u003c/a>, which means some group of plutocrats can control how the system behaves.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"7725\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Design\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"c53d\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The governance system can call a wide variety of internal functions that allow the governors to do just about whatever they want. Governance is a fairly simple “stake the leader” system, where you stake your MKR on the contract that you want to have control over the system, and the contract with the most staked MKR is given that control. Since the current executive contract (AKA: executive proposal) has about 80,000 MKR staked on it, the naive cost of doing \u003cem class=\"lu\">just about whatever you want\u003c/em> to the Maker contracts is about 80,000 MKR, or about 41M USD. To mitigate the threat of malicious actors, the system has a mechanism which makes it so after a new executive contract is chosen, there is a delay before it can take any actions. During this delay, anyone with a sufficient amount of MKR can trigger a global settlement of the whole system, effectively shutting it down before the new executive contract can do anything untoward. This means that if a thief showed up and tried to vote in their own executive contract that is programmed to steal all of the collateral, even if they had more stake than the other executive contracts they would have to wait for that delay and hope no one triggered the defense mechanisms during that time.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"ed0c\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Negligence\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"5c7e\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The problem is, Maker Foundation has decided that the appropriate value for this governance delay is 0 seconds. That is right, \u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">defenders have 0 seconds to defend against an attack \u003c/strong>launched by a wealthy but malicious party.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"83a8\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Subtlety\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"50df\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Given the above, an attacker could do the following:\u003c/p>\u003col class=\"\">\u003cli id=\"fb7b\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv lp kz lq ld lx lh ly ll lz ko ma mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Acquire 80,000 MKR through whatever means possible.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"4639\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko ma mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Create an executive contract that is programmed to transfer all collateral from Maker to you.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"d01b\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko ma mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Immediately (in the same transaction) vote on the contract.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"e829\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko ma mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Immediately (in the same transaction) activate the contract.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"6e0e\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko ma mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ride off into the sunset with 340M USD worth of ETH (don’t bother going back for your MKR, it will be worthless after this).\u003c/li>\u003c/ol>\u003cp id=\"1e82\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">This is incredibly profitable (8x ROI), but it is expensive to execute. Luckily, we can knock the cost of the attack down to 50% of that by simply being patient!\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"0c86\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Remember above how we described the way the current voting system works is that the executive contract with the most votes is the one with all the control? Anytime a governance vote is proposed, there is a time period over which MKR stake migrates from the old executive contract to the new one. This \u003cem class=\"lu\">never \u003c/em>happens all at once, it usually happens over time as individuals migrate their votes forward. There will be a point in time where that 80,000 actively participating MKR will be split between two executive contracts, with each having approximately 40,000 MKR in it. A good script kiddie can easily time a transaction such that it lands right when the MKR is distributed optimally between the two contracts and execute the above attack at that time, only costing some amount over 40,000 MKR (~20M USD).\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"6a2e\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Cash Register\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"4f6b\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">If stealing 340M USD isn’t enough for you, you could also mint yourself a quadrillion DAI as part of the attack execution. In the same transaction as you rob Maker, you could take that DAI over to Uniswap and steal all of the ETH liquidity available in the DAI:ETH pair. For a bit of extra change from the pockets of hapless bank patrons you could also go over to Compound and lend out a quadrillion DAI and borrow all available lent capital (you would never repay the loan, just keep the borrowed assets). If you act quickly, you may even be able to cash-out on semi-decentralized exchanges like IDEX, Paradex, RadarRelay, etc. immediately after minting all that DAI.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"dbca\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Crowd\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"435f\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">But wait, there’s more! Ethereum is a system built on binding agreements! This means that one could create a smart contract where multiple people who don’t trust each other can collude under a strict set of rules. The set of rules might be something like this:\u003c/p>\u003cblockquote class=\"mj mk ml\">\u003cp id=\"6079\" class=\"ks kt lu ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc mm lr lf lg mn ls lj lk mo lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">If this contract collects 40,000 MKR, then anyone can trigger it and it will immediately rob Maker. Upon successful robbery, the loot will be divided evenly up among MKR contributors. Upon failed robbery, MKR can be withdrawn by participants. At anytime anyone can withdraw their MKR.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003cp id=\"927c\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">This very simple contract is a binding agreement between everyone who contributes MKR to the contract, and there is no need for anyone to trust each other like with a traditional heist. No one can run away with all of the loot, no one can steal any other participant’s contribution, and no one can use the contributed MKR for anything other than executing the agreed upon heist.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"1c11\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">One may argue (and Maker Foundation does), that any attackers must telegraph their presence to crowdsource, and Maker Foundation could simply break their rule of “we don’t participate in governance” to stop the attack by throwing all of the foundation’s MKR into the vote, thus making it now cost 400,000,000 MKR instead of 40,000 MKR. While it is true that Maker Foundation could prevent this if they saw it coming, there is no guarantee that they will see it coming. For example, the attackers may have capital elsewhere and they could use it to acquire MKR over time off of exchanges. The attackers also may be MKR holders who know other MKR holders with a certain moral turpitude and could coordinate in private.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"a486\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Even if the binding agreement contract was public knowledge, it could be designed in a way to obfuscate the crowdsourcing. For example, you could have everyone who was interested submit a pre-signed transaction to a central service provider (no need to fully trust them) and then the central service provider would wait to broadcast those transactions until enough MKR was “ready to mobilize”. In such a scenario either Maker Foundation steps in to centrally control the system without knowing if anyone is actually contributing, or they do nothing and risk that at any moment the attack could happen and they would be powerless to respond in time.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"c288\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Insiders\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"1eac\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">It is worth noting that Maker Foundation could attack the system in this way \u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">right now \u003c/em>\u003c/strong>if they wanted. They have way more than the 80,000 MKR necessary. What is worse, a16z has enough MKR on hand right now to execute the attack the patient way! There are a couple other MKR holders whose identity is unknown to me who hold enough to execute the patient version of the attack as well, and then after that there are a handful that would need to collude with one or two others to execute the attack.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"7042\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">What should scare you here is that this isn’t #DeFi, this is #CeFi, but instead of only one person being able to steal all your money (the bank), the bank \u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">or any of a number of large individual shareholders, or a group of smaller shareholders\u003c/strong> could decide to steal all of your money at any time.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"ac73\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Fallout\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"14fc\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">So what happens to Maker users if someone executes this attack? For starters, everyone with a CDP/Vault would be wiped out. The direct theft is stealing all of the collateral. The knock-on effect of that is that DAI would become 100% undercollateralized and its price would likely go to zero. Following that, MKR value would like go to zero since their entire system basically failed, and resurrecting it is unlikely after that kind of failure. It is possible that Ethereum would take a bit of a licking as well since this would be yet-another massive failure within the Ethereum ecosystem. I suspect it would recover, because it still is a good platform, but a reminder that “people can build bad things on top of a good thing” is sobering for irrational exuberance.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"2cb4\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Defense\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"ff03\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I have brought up this attack scenario with Maker and they have expressly stated that it is not worth them giving up instantaneous governance control to protect against this attack. The general theme of their defense arguments are as follows (paraphrased by me, talk to them if you want first hand statements), along with my rebuttals:\u003c/p>\u003cul class=\"\">\u003cli id=\"ded6\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv lp kz lq ld lx lh ly ll lz ko mp mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">The attack vector has existed for quite a while, but things are fine so far.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>Heartbleed (OpenSSL attack) existed for 10 years before it was found. Maker’s source code is notoriously hard to follow and a big complaint by a large portion of the Ethereum dev community. I have personally told them previously that I didn’t audit Maker’s contracts because it was too hard to read their code. I finally bit the bullet and dug into Maker v2 because it was \u003cem class=\"lu\">supposed\u003c/em> to be secure (unlike Maker v1 which was well known to be insecure, though I didn’t realize just how insecure it was). Just because no one has executed an attack yet doesn’t mean they will not execute the attack in the future. This is especially true when the vector becomes more widely known.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"319e\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko mp mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">It is too expensive for anyone but a select few people to execute.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>See The Crowd section above. Also note that it only takes one person to attack, so “too expensive but for a select few” doesn’t make a system secure.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"3377\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko mp mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">An attacker would have to telegraph their attack.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>Only if the attack comes from a large selection of MKR holders working together, and only if Maker is willing to put up a defense at the mere \u003cem class=\"lu\">hint\u003c/em> that someone might be prepping for an attack.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"04c2\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko mp mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">We would take legal action against any attackers.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>This one basically spits in the face of #DeFi. A lot of people within the Ethereum ecosystem are expressly trying to protect themselves from totalitarian governments. Claiming that “your money is safe because those thugs that you are hiding from will protect you” is not reassuring at all. Also, it presumes that the attackers are not anonymous (see below).\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"c3a1\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko mp mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">It is hard to be anonymous on Ethereum.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>Yes, it is a bit tricky to be anonymous on Ethereum. Despite that, The DAO attacker is still unknown. Satoshi is still unknown. Many very wealthy ETH holders are unknown. Being hard isn’t a good defense against a massively profitable attack.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"5b86\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko mp mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">It is a known risk, but there are unknown risks that may be worse.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>I disagree pretty strongly with this risk assessment. You have a known risk where it is \u003cem class=\"lu\">incredibly profitable\u003c/em> to attack the system and that is being compared against unknown risks of unknown impact and unknown likelihood. This line of thinking is along the lines of, “there is no attack vector that is worth us giving up our control for.”\u003c/li>\u003c/ul>\u003ch1 id=\"3464\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Disclosure\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"56a6\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Maker has been aware of this issue since before Maker v2 launched, probably since the beginning. Despite this, they are \u003cem class=\"lu\">choosing\u003c/em> not to plug the hole (the plug is easy). Because of that, I do not believe that it would be responsible for me to keep my mouth shut and hope that no attacker figures out what should be obvious to anyone who understands Maker’s governance model.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"6108\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Promotion\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"fda7\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I rarely blog, but feel free to clap, comment, subscribe if you want a gem like this every now and then! 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Summary\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_5\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_5\",\"name\":\"cbb8\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Anyone with ~40,000 MKR (about 20,000,000 USD) can steal all of the collateral in Maker DAO, both DAI and SAI, along with a good chunk of assets from Compound, Uniswap, and other Maker integrated systems (over 340,000,000 USD).\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_6\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_6\",\"name\":\"22b8\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Maker DAO v2 (AKA Multi-Collateral DAI, AKA McDAI) was supposed to launch with safeguards (emergency shutdown and governance delay) against a hostile MKR holder stealing all collateral and potentially robbing a good chunk of Uniswap, Compound, and other systems integrated with Maker in the process. Instead, they decided not to.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_7\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_7\",\"name\":\"2a2f\",\"type\":\"H3\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"The Bank\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_8\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_8\",\"name\":\"e092\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Maker DAO. It is the thing that makes DAI work. It currently has about 340M USD worth of ETH locked in it across their v1 and v2 releases. It also is a “governed” system, unlike https:\\u002F\\u002Funiswap.exchange or https:\\u002F\\u002Faugur.net, which means some group of plutocrats can control how the system behaves.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"A\",\"start\":178,\"end\":202,\"href\":\"https:\\u002F\\u002Funiswap.exchange\",\"anchorType\":\"LINK\",\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null},{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"A\",\"start\":206,\"end\":223,\"href\":\"https:\\u002F\\u002Faugur.net\",\"anchorType\":\"LINK\",\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null}],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_9\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_9\",\"name\":\"7725\",\"type\":\"H3\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"The Design\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_10\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_10\",\"name\":\"c53d\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"The governance system can call a wide variety of internal functions that allow the governors to do just about whatever they want. Governance is a fairly simple “stake the leader” system, where you stake your MKR on the contract that you want to have control over the system, and the contract with the most staked MKR is given that control. Since the current executive contract (AKA: executive proposal) has about 80,000 MKR staked on it, the naive cost of doing just about whatever you want to the Maker contracts is about 80,000 MKR, or about 41M USD. To mitigate the threat of malicious actors, the system has a mechanism which makes it so after a new executive contract is chosen, there is a delay before it can take any actions. During this delay, anyone with a sufficient amount of MKR can trigger a global settlement of the whole system, effectively shutting it down before the new executive contract can do anything untoward. This means that if a thief showed up and tried to vote in their own executive contract that is programmed to steal all of the collateral, even if they had more stake than the other executive contracts they would have to wait for that delay and hope no one triggered the defense mechanisms during that time.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"EM\",\"start\":462,\"end\":490,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null}],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_11\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_11\",\"name\":\"ed0c\",\"type\":\"H3\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"The Negligence\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_12\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_12\",\"name\":\"5c7e\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"The problem is, Maker Foundation has decided that the appropriate value for this governance delay is 0 seconds. That is right, defenders have 0 seconds to defend against an attack launched by a wealthy but malicious party.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"STRONG\",\"start\":127,\"end\":180,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null}],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_13\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_13\",\"name\":\"83a8\",\"type\":\"H3\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"The Subtlety\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_14\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_14\",\"name\":\"50df\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Given the above, an attacker could do the following:\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_15\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_15\",\"name\":\"fb7b\",\"type\":\"OLI\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Acquire 80,000 MKR through whatever means possible.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_16\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_16\",\"name\":\"4639\",\"type\":\"OLI\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Create an executive contract that is programmed to transfer all collateral from Maker to you.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_17\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_17\",\"name\":\"d01b\",\"type\":\"OLI\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Immediately (in the same transaction) vote on the contract.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_18\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_18\",\"name\":\"e829\",\"type\":\"OLI\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Immediately (in the same transaction) activate the contract.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_19\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_19\",\"name\":\"6e0e\",\"type\":\"OLI\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Ride off into the sunset with 340M USD worth of ETH (don’t bother going back for your MKR, it will be worthless after this).\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_20\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_20\",\"name\":\"1e82\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"This is incredibly profitable (8x ROI), but it is expensive to execute. Luckily, we can knock the cost of the attack down to 50% of that by simply being patient!\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_21\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_21\",\"name\":\"0c86\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Remember above how we described the way the current voting system works is that the executive contract with the most votes is the one with all the control? Anytime a governance vote is proposed, there is a time period over which MKR stake migrates from the old executive contract to the new one. This never happens all at once, it usually happens over time as individuals migrate their votes forward. There will be a point in time where that 80,000 actively participating MKR will be split between two executive contracts, with each having approximately 40,000 MKR in it. A good script kiddie can easily time a transaction such that it lands right when the MKR is distributed optimally between the two contracts and execute the above attack at that time, only costing some amount over 40,000 MKR (~20M USD).\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"EM\",\"start\":301,\"end\":307,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null}],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_22\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_22\",\"name\":\"6a2e\",\"type\":\"H3\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"The Cash Register\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_23\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_23\",\"name\":\"4f6b\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"If stealing 340M USD isn’t enough for you, you could also mint yourself a quadrillion DAI as part of the attack execution. In the same transaction as you rob Maker, you could take that DAI over to Uniswap and steal all of the ETH liquidity available in the DAI:ETH pair. For a bit of extra change from the pockets of hapless bank patrons you could also go over to Compound and lend out a quadrillion DAI and borrow all available lent capital (you would never repay the loan, just keep the borrowed assets). If you act quickly, you may even be able to cash-out on semi-decentralized exchanges like IDEX, Paradex, RadarRelay, etc. immediately after minting all that DAI.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_24\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_24\",\"name\":\"dbca\",\"type\":\"H3\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"The Crowd\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_25\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_25\",\"name\":\"435f\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"But wait, there’s more! Ethereum is a system built on binding agreements! This means that one could create a smart contract where multiple people who don’t trust each other can collude under a strict set of rules. The set of rules might be something like this:\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_26\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_26\",\"name\":\"6079\",\"type\":\"BQ\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"If this contract collects 40,000 MKR, then anyone can trigger it and it will immediately rob Maker. Upon successful robbery, the loot will be divided evenly up among MKR contributors. Upon failed robbery, MKR can be withdrawn by participants. At anytime anyone can withdraw their MKR.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_27\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_27\",\"name\":\"927c\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"This very simple contract is a binding agreement between everyone who contributes MKR to the contract, and there is no need for anyone to trust each other like with a traditional heist. No one can run away with all of the loot, no one can steal any other participant’s contribution, and no one can use the contributed MKR for anything other than executing the agreed upon heist.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_28\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_28\",\"name\":\"1c11\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"One may argue (and Maker Foundation does), that any attackers must telegraph their presence to crowdsource, and Maker Foundation could simply break their rule of “we don’t participate in governance” to stop the attack by throwing all of the foundation’s MKR into the vote, thus making it now cost 400,000,000 MKR instead of 40,000 MKR. While it is true that Maker Foundation could prevent this if they saw it coming, there is no guarantee that they will see it coming. For example, the attackers may have capital elsewhere and they could use it to acquire MKR over time off of exchanges. The attackers also may be MKR holders who know other MKR holders with a certain moral turpitude and could coordinate in private.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_29\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_29\",\"name\":\"a486\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Even if the binding agreement contract was public knowledge, it could be designed in a way to obfuscate the crowdsourcing. For example, you could have everyone who was interested submit a pre-signed transaction to a central service provider (no need to fully trust them) and then the central service provider would wait to broadcast those transactions until enough MKR was “ready to mobilize”. In such a scenario either Maker Foundation steps in to centrally control the system without knowing if anyone is actually contributing, or they do nothing and risk that at any moment the attack could happen and they would be powerless to respond in time.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_30\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_30\",\"name\":\"c288\",\"type\":\"H3\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"The Insiders\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_31\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_31\",\"name\":\"1eac\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"It is worth noting that Maker Foundation could attack the system in this way right now if they wanted. They have way more than the 80,000 MKR necessary. What is worse, a16z has enough MKR on hand right now to execute the attack the patient way! There are a couple other MKR holders whose identity is unknown to me who hold enough to execute the patient version of the attack as well, and then after that there are a handful that would need to collude with one or two others to execute the attack.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"STRONG\",\"start\":77,\"end\":87,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null},{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"EM\",\"start\":77,\"end\":87,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null}],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_32\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_32\",\"name\":\"7042\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"What should scare you here is that this isn’t #DeFi, this is #CeFi, but instead of only one person being able to steal all your money (the bank), the bank or any of a number of large individual shareholders, or a group of smaller shareholders could decide to steal all of your money at any time.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"STRONG\",\"start\":155,\"end\":242,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null}],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_33\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_33\",\"name\":\"ac73\",\"type\":\"H3\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"The Fallout\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_34\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_34\",\"name\":\"14fc\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"So what happens to Maker users if someone executes this attack? 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I finally bit the bullet and dug into Maker v2 because it was supposed to be secure (unlike Maker v1 which was well known to be insecure, though I didn’t realize just how insecure it was). Just because no one has executed an attack yet doesn’t mean they will not execute the attack in the future. This is especially true when the vector becomes more widely known.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"STRONG\",\"start\":0,\"end\":76,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null},{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"EM\",\"start\":0,\"end\":76,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null},{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"EM\",\"start\":450,\"end\":458,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null}],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_38\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_38\",\"name\":\"319e\",\"type\":\"ULI\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"It is too expensive for anyone but a select few people to execute.\\nSee The Crowd section above. Also note that it only takes one person to attack, so “too expensive but for a select few” doesn’t make a system secure.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"STRONG\",\"start\":0,\"end\":66,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null},{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"EM\",\"start\":0,\"end\":66,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null}],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_39\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_39\",\"name\":\"3377\",\"type\":\"ULI\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"An attacker would have to telegraph their attack.\\nOnly if the attack comes from a large selection of MKR holders working together, and only if Maker is willing to put up a defense at the mere hint that someone might be prepping for an attack.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"STRONG\",\"start\":0,\"end\":49,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null},{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"EM\",\"start\":0,\"end\":49,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null},{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"EM\",\"start\":192,\"end\":196,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null}],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_40\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_40\",\"name\":\"04c2\",\"type\":\"ULI\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"We would take legal action against any attackers.\\nThis one basically spits in the face of #DeFi. A lot of people within the Ethereum ecosystem are expressly trying to protect themselves from totalitarian governments. Claiming that “your money is safe because those thugs that you are hiding from will protect you” is not reassuring at all. Also, it presumes that the attackers are not anonymous (see below).\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"STRONG\",\"start\":0,\"end\":49,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null},{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"EM\",\"start\":0,\"end\":49,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null}],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_41\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_41\",\"name\":\"c3a1\",\"type\":\"ULI\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"It is hard to be anonymous on Ethereum.\\nYes, it is a bit tricky to be anonymous on Ethereum. Despite that, The DAO attacker is still unknown. Satoshi is still unknown. Many very wealthy ETH holders are unknown. Being hard isn’t a good defense against a massively profitable attack.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"STRONG\",\"start\":0,\"end\":39,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null},{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"EM\",\"start\":0,\"end\":39,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null}],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:b814c5760808_42\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"b814c5760808_42\",\"name\":\"5b86\",\"type\":\"ULI\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"It is a known risk, but there are unknown risks that may be worse.\\nI disagree pretty strongly with this risk assessment. 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by Jason Pofahl on UnsplashHow to turn $20M into $340M in 15 secondsThe TL;DRFunds are not safu!The SummaryAnyone with ~40,000 MKR (about 20,000,000 USD) can steal all of the collateral in Maker DAO, both DAI and SAI, along with a good chunk of assets from Compound, Uniswap, and other Maker integrated systems (over 340,000,000 USD).Maker DAO v2 (AKA Multi-Collateral DAI, AKA McDAI) was supposed to launch with safeguards (emergency shutdown and governance delay) against a hostile MKR holder stealing all collateral and potentially robbing a good chunk of Uniswap, Compound, and other systems integrated with Maker in the process. Instead, they decided not to.The BankMaker DAO. It is the thing that makes DAI work. It currently has about 340M USD worth of ETH locked in it across their v1 and v2 releases. It also is a “governed” system, unlike https://uniswap.exchange or https://augur.net, which means some group of plutocrats can control how the system behaves.The DesignThe governance system can call a wide variety of internal functions that allow the governors to do just about whatever they want. Governance is a fairly simple “stake the leader” system, where you stake your MKR on the contract that you want to have control over the system, and the contract with the most staked MKR is given that control. Since the current executive contract (AKA: executive proposal) has about 80,000 MKR staked on it, the naive cost of doing just about whatever you want to the Maker contracts is about 80,000 MKR, or about 41M USD. To mitigate the threat of malicious actors, the system has a mechanism which makes it so after a new executive contract is chosen, there is a delay before it can take any actions. During this delay, anyone with a sufficient amount of MKR can trigger a global settlement of the whole system, effectively shutting it down before the new executive contract can do anything untoward. This means that if a thief showed up and tried to vote in their own executive contract that is programmed to steal all of the collateral, even if they had more stake than the other executive contracts they would have to wait for that delay and hope no one triggered the defense mechanisms during that time.The NegligenceThe problem is, Maker Foundation has decided that the appropriate value for this governance delay is 0 seconds. That is right, defenders have 0 seconds to defend against an attack launched by a wealthy but malicious party.The SubtletyGiven the above, an attacker could do the following:Acquire 80,000 MKR through whatever means possible.Create an executive contract that is programmed to transfer all collateral from Maker to you.Immediately (in the same transaction) vote on the contract.Immediately (in the same transaction) activate the contract.Ride off into the sunset with 340M USD worth of ETH (don’t bother going back for your MKR, it will be worthless after this).This is incredibly profitable (8x ROI), but it is expensive to execute. Luckily, we can knock the cost of the attack down to 50% of that by simply being patient!Remember above how we described the way the current voting system works is that the executive contract with the most votes is the one with all the control? Anytime a governance vote is proposed, there is a time period over which MKR stake migrates from the old executive contract to the new one. This never happens all at once, it usually happens over time as individuals migrate their votes forward. There will be a point in time where that 80,000 actively participating MKR will be split between two executive contracts, with each having approximately 40,000 MKR in it. A good script kiddie can easily time a transaction such that it lands right when the MKR is distributed optimally between the two contracts and execute the above attack at that time, only costing some amount over 40,000 MKR (~20M USD).The Cash RegisterIf stealing 340M USD isn’t enough for you, you could also mint yourself a quadrillion DAI as part of the attack execution. In the same transaction as you rob Maker, you could take that DAI over to Uniswap and steal all of the ETH liquidity available in the DAI:ETH pair. For a bit of extra change from the pockets of hapless bank patrons you could also go over to Compound and lend out a quadrillion DAI and borrow all available lent capital (you would never repay the loan, just keep the borrowed assets). If you act quickly, you may even be able to cash-out on semi-decentralized exchanges like IDEX, Paradex, RadarRelay, etc. immediately after minting all that DAI.The CrowdBut wait, there’s more! Ethereum is a system built on binding agreements! This means that one could create a smart contract where multiple people who don’t trust each other can collude under a strict set of rules. The set of rules might be something like this:If this contract collects 40,000 MKR, then anyone can trigger it and it will immediately rob Maker. Upon successful robbery, the loot will be divided evenly up among MKR contributors. Upon failed robbery, MKR can be withdrawn by participants. At anytime anyone can withdraw their MKR.This very simple contract is a binding agreement between everyone who contributes MKR to the contract, and there is no need for anyone to trust each other like with a traditional heist. No one can run away with all of the loot, no one can steal any other participant’s contribution, and no one can use the contributed MKR for anything other than executing the agreed upon heist.One may argue (and Maker Foundation does), that any attackers must telegraph their presence to crowdsource, and Maker Foundation could simply break their rule of “we don’t participate in governance” to stop the attack by throwing all of the foundation’s MKR into the vote, thus making it now cost 400,000,000 MKR instead of 40,000 MKR. While it is true that Maker Foundation could prevent this if they saw it coming, there is no guarantee that they will see it coming. For example, the attackers may have capital elsewhere and they could use it to acquire MKR over time off of exchanges. The attackers also may be MKR holders who know other MKR holders with a certain moral turpitude and could coordinate in private.Even if the binding agreement contract was public knowledge, it could be designed in a way to obfuscate the crowdsourcing. For example, you could have everyone who was interested submit a pre-signed transaction to a central service provider (no need to fully trust them) and then the central service provider would wait to broadcast those transactions until enough MKR was “ready to mobilize”. In such a scenario either Maker Foundation steps in to centrally control the system without knowing if anyone is actually contributing, or they do nothing and risk that at any moment the attack could happen and they would be powerless to respond in time.The InsidersIt is worth noting that Maker Foundation could attack the system in this way right now if they wanted. They have way more than the 80,000 MKR necessary. What is worse, a16z has enough MKR on hand right now to execute the attack the patient way! There are a couple other MKR holders whose identity is unknown to me who hold enough to execute the patient version of the attack as well, and then after that there are a handful that would need to collude with one or two others to execute the attack.What should scare you here is that this isn’t #DeFi, this is #CeFi, but instead of only one person being able to steal all your money (the bank), the bank or any of a number of large individual shareholders, or a group of smaller shareholders could decide to steal all of your money at any time.The FalloutSo what happens to Maker users if someone executes this attack? For starters, everyone with a CDP/Vault would be wiped out. The direct theft is stealing all of the collateral. The knock-on effect of that is that DAI would become 100% undercollateralized and its price would likely go to zero. Following that, MKR value would like go to zero since their entire system basically failed, and resurrecting it is unlikely after that kind of failure. It is possible that Ethereum would take a bit of a licking as well since this would be yet-another massive failure within the Ethereum ecosystem. I suspect it would recover, because it still is a good platform, but a reminder that “people can build bad things on top of a good thing” is sobering for irrational exuberance.The DefenseI have brought up this attack scenario with Maker and they have expressly stated that it is not worth them giving up instantaneous governance control to protect against this attack. The general theme of their defense arguments are as follows (paraphrased by me, talk to them if you want first hand statements), along with my rebuttals:The attack vector has existed for quite a while, but things are fine so far.Heartbleed (OpenSSL attack) existed for 10 years before it was found. Maker’s source code is notoriously hard to follow and a big complaint by a large portion of the Ethereum dev community. I have personally told them previously that I didn’t audit Maker’s contracts because it was too hard to read their code. I finally bit the bullet and dug into Maker v2 because it was supposed to be secure (unlike Maker v1 which was well known to be insecure, though I didn’t realize just how insecure it was). Just because no one has executed an attack yet doesn’t mean they will not execute the attack in the future. This is especially true when the vector becomes more widely known.It is too expensive for anyone but a select few people to execute.See The Crowd section above. Also note that it only takes one person to attack, so “too expensive but for a select few” doesn’t make a system secure.An attacker would have to telegraph their attack.Only if the attack comes from a large selection of MKR holders working together, and only if Maker is willing to put up a defense at the mere hint that someone might be prepping for an attack.We would take legal action against any attackers.This one basically spits in the face of #DeFi. A lot of people within the Ethereum ecosystem are expressly trying to protect themselves from totalitarian governments. Claiming that “your money is safe because those thugs that you are hiding from will protect you” is not reassuring at all. Also, it presumes that the attackers are not anonymous (see below).It is hard to be anonymous on Ethereum.Yes, it is a bit tricky to be anonymous on Ethereum. Despite that, The DAO attacker is still unknown. Satoshi is still unknown. Many very wealthy ETH holders are unknown. Being hard isn’t a good defense against a massively profitable attack.It is a known risk, but there are unknown risks that may be worse.I disagree pretty strongly with this risk assessment. You have a known risk where it is incredibly profitable to attack the system and that is being compared against unknown risks of unknown impact and unknown likelihood. This line of thinking is along the lines of, “there is no attack vector that is worth us giving up our control for.”The DisclosureMaker has been aware of this issue since before Maker v2 launched, probably since the beginning. Despite this, they are choosing not to plug the hole (the plug is easy). Because of that, I do not believe that it would be responsible for me to keep my mouth shut and hope that no attacker figures out what should be obvious to anyone who understands Maker’s governance model.The PromotionI rarely blog, but feel free to clap, comment, subscribe if you want a gem like this every now and then! 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(min-resolution: 2.5dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2.5) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (min-resolution: 2dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cimg alt=\"\" class=\"bf ia ib dj\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" loading=\"eager\" role=\"presentation\" src=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:700/1*70et-bAlSdGs-UmNZaVwUA.jpeg\">\u003c/picture>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003cfigcaption class=\"ic id fg fe ff ie if bd b be z ek\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Photo by \u003ca class=\"ae ig\" href=\"https://unsplash.com/@jasonpofahlphotography?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Jason Pofahl\u003c/a> on \u003ca class=\"ae ig\" href=\"https://unsplash.com/s/photos/funds?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Unsplash\u003c/a>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\u003cdiv class=\"\">\u003ch1 id=\"f18a\" class=\"pw-post-title ih ii ij bd ik il im in io ip iq ir is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">How to turn $20M into $340M in 15 seconds\u003c/h1>\u003c/div>\u003ch1 id=\"cbee\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The TL;DR\u003c/h1>\u003cblockquote class=\"ke\">\u003cp id=\"1e24\" class=\"kf kg ij bd kh ki kj kk kl km kn ko ek\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Funds are not safu!\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003ch1 id=\"3095\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr kp jt ju jv kq jx jy jz kr kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Summary\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"cbb8\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Anyone with ~40,000 MKR (about 20,000,000 USD) can steal all of the collateral in Maker DAO, both DAI and SAI, along with a good chunk of assets from Compound, Uniswap, and other Maker integrated systems (over 340,000,000 USD).\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"22b8\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Maker DAO v2 (AKA Multi-Collateral DAI, AKA McDAI) was supposed to launch with safeguards (emergency shutdown and governance delay) against a hostile MKR holder stealing all collateral and potentially robbing a good chunk of Uniswap, Compound, and other systems integrated with Maker in the process. Instead, they decided not to.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"2a2f\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Bank\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"e092\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Maker DAO. It is the thing that makes DAI work. It currently has about 340M USD worth of ETH locked in it across their v1 and v2 releases. It also is a “governed” system, unlike \u003ca class=\"ae ig\" href=\"https://uniswap.exchange\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">https://uniswap.exchange\u003c/a> or \u003ca class=\"ae ig\" href=\"https://augur.net\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">https://augur.net\u003c/a>, which means some group of plutocrats can control how the system behaves.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"7725\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Design\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"c53d\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The governance system can call a wide variety of internal functions that allow the governors to do just about whatever they want. Governance is a fairly simple “stake the leader” system, where you stake your MKR on the contract that you want to have control over the system, and the contract with the most staked MKR is given that control. Since the current executive contract (AKA: executive proposal) has about 80,000 MKR staked on it, the naive cost of doing \u003cem class=\"lu\">just about whatever you want\u003c/em> to the Maker contracts is about 80,000 MKR, or about 41M USD. To mitigate the threat of malicious actors, the system has a mechanism which makes it so after a new executive contract is chosen, there is a delay before it can take any actions. During this delay, anyone with a sufficient amount of MKR can trigger a global settlement of the whole system, effectively shutting it down before the new executive contract can do anything untoward. This means that if a thief showed up and tried to vote in their own executive contract that is programmed to steal all of the collateral, even if they had more stake than the other executive contracts they would have to wait for that delay and hope no one triggered the defense mechanisms during that time.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"ed0c\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Negligence\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"5c7e\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The problem is, Maker Foundation has decided that the appropriate value for this governance delay is 0 seconds. That is right, \u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">defenders have 0 seconds to defend against an attack \u003c/strong>launched by a wealthy but malicious party.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"83a8\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Subtlety\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"50df\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Given the above, an attacker could do the following:\u003c/p>\u003col class=\"\">\u003cli id=\"fb7b\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv lp kz lq ld lx lh ly ll lz ko ma mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Acquire 80,000 MKR through whatever means possible.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"4639\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko ma mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Create an executive contract that is programmed to transfer all collateral from Maker to you.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"d01b\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko ma mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Immediately (in the same transaction) vote on the contract.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"e829\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko ma mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Immediately (in the same transaction) activate the contract.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"6e0e\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko ma mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ride off into the sunset with 340M USD worth of ETH (don’t bother going back for your MKR, it will be worthless after this).\u003c/li>\u003c/ol>\u003cp id=\"1e82\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">This is incredibly profitable (8x ROI), but it is expensive to execute. Luckily, we can knock the cost of the attack down to 50% of that by simply being patient!\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"0c86\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Remember above how we described the way the current voting system works is that the executive contract with the most votes is the one with all the control? Anytime a governance vote is proposed, there is a time period over which MKR stake migrates from the old executive contract to the new one. This \u003cem class=\"lu\">never \u003c/em>happens all at once, it usually happens over time as individuals migrate their votes forward. There will be a point in time where that 80,000 actively participating MKR will be split between two executive contracts, with each having approximately 40,000 MKR in it. A good script kiddie can easily time a transaction such that it lands right when the MKR is distributed optimally between the two contracts and execute the above attack at that time, only costing some amount over 40,000 MKR (~20M USD).\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"6a2e\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Cash Register\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"4f6b\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">If stealing 340M USD isn’t enough for you, you could also mint yourself a quadrillion DAI as part of the attack execution. In the same transaction as you rob Maker, you could take that DAI over to Uniswap and steal all of the ETH liquidity available in the DAI:ETH pair. For a bit of extra change from the pockets of hapless bank patrons you could also go over to Compound and lend out a quadrillion DAI and borrow all available lent capital (you would never repay the loan, just keep the borrowed assets). If you act quickly, you may even be able to cash-out on semi-decentralized exchanges like IDEX, Paradex, RadarRelay, etc. immediately after minting all that DAI.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"dbca\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Crowd\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"435f\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">But wait, there’s more! Ethereum is a system built on binding agreements! This means that one could create a smart contract where multiple people who don’t trust each other can collude under a strict set of rules. The set of rules might be something like this:\u003c/p>\u003cblockquote class=\"mj mk ml\">\u003cp id=\"6079\" class=\"ks kt lu ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc mm lr lf lg mn ls lj lk mo lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">If this contract collects 40,000 MKR, then anyone can trigger it and it will immediately rob Maker. Upon successful robbery, the loot will be divided evenly up among MKR contributors. Upon failed robbery, MKR can be withdrawn by participants. At anytime anyone can withdraw their MKR.\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003cp id=\"927c\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">This very simple contract is a binding agreement between everyone who contributes MKR to the contract, and there is no need for anyone to trust each other like with a traditional heist. No one can run away with all of the loot, no one can steal any other participant’s contribution, and no one can use the contributed MKR for anything other than executing the agreed upon heist.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"1c11\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">One may argue (and Maker Foundation does), that any attackers must telegraph their presence to crowdsource, and Maker Foundation could simply break their rule of “we don’t participate in governance” to stop the attack by throwing all of the foundation’s MKR into the vote, thus making it now cost 400,000,000 MKR instead of 40,000 MKR. While it is true that Maker Foundation could prevent this if they saw it coming, there is no guarantee that they will see it coming. For example, the attackers may have capital elsewhere and they could use it to acquire MKR over time off of exchanges. The attackers also may be MKR holders who know other MKR holders with a certain moral turpitude and could coordinate in private.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"a486\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Even if the binding agreement contract was public knowledge, it could be designed in a way to obfuscate the crowdsourcing. For example, you could have everyone who was interested submit a pre-signed transaction to a central service provider (no need to fully trust them) and then the central service provider would wait to broadcast those transactions until enough MKR was “ready to mobilize”. In such a scenario either Maker Foundation steps in to centrally control the system without knowing if anyone is actually contributing, or they do nothing and risk that at any moment the attack could happen and they would be powerless to respond in time.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"c288\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Insiders\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"1eac\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">It is worth noting that Maker Foundation could attack the system in this way \u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">right now \u003c/em>\u003c/strong>if they wanted. They have way more than the 80,000 MKR necessary. What is worse, a16z has enough MKR on hand right now to execute the attack the patient way! There are a couple other MKR holders whose identity is unknown to me who hold enough to execute the patient version of the attack as well, and then after that there are a handful that would need to collude with one or two others to execute the attack.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"7042\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv lp kx ky kz lq lb lc ld lr lf lg lh ls lj lk ll lt ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">What should scare you here is that this isn’t \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#DeFi\u003c/span>, this is \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#CeFi\u003c/span>, but instead of only one person being able to steal all your money (the bank), the bank \u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">or any of a number of large individual shareholders, or a group of smaller shareholders\u003c/strong> could decide to steal all of your money at any time.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"ac73\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Fallout\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"14fc\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">So what happens to Maker users if someone executes this attack? For starters, everyone with a CDP/Vault would be wiped out. The direct theft is stealing all of the collateral. The knock-on effect of that is that DAI would become 100% undercollateralized and its price would likely go to zero. Following that, MKR value would like go to zero since their entire system basically failed, and resurrecting it is unlikely after that kind of failure. It is possible that Ethereum would take a bit of a licking as well since this would be yet-another massive failure within the Ethereum ecosystem. I suspect it would recover, because it still is a good platform, but a reminder that “people can build bad things on top of a good thing” is sobering for irrational exuberance.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"2cb4\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Defense\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"ff03\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I have brought up this attack scenario with Maker and they have expressly stated that it is not worth them giving up instantaneous governance control to protect against this attack. The general theme of their defense arguments are as follows (paraphrased by me, talk to them if you want first hand statements), along with my rebuttals:\u003c/p>\u003cul class=\"\">\u003cli id=\"ded6\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv lp kz lq ld lx lh ly ll lz ko mp mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">The attack vector has existed for quite a while, but things are fine so far.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>Heartbleed (OpenSSL attack) existed for 10 years before it was found. Maker’s source code is notoriously hard to follow and a big complaint by a large portion of the Ethereum dev community. I have personally told them previously that I didn’t audit Maker’s contracts because it was too hard to read their code. I finally bit the bullet and dug into Maker v2 because it was \u003cem class=\"lu\">supposed\u003c/em> to be secure (unlike Maker v1 which was well known to be insecure, though I didn’t realize just how insecure it was). Just because no one has executed an attack yet doesn’t mean they will not execute the attack in the future. This is especially true when the vector becomes more widely known.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"319e\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko mp mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">It is too expensive for anyone but a select few people to execute.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>See The Crowd section above. Also note that it only takes one person to attack, so “too expensive but for a select few” doesn’t make a system secure.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"3377\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko mp mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">An attacker would have to telegraph their attack.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>Only if the attack comes from a large selection of MKR holders working together, and only if Maker is willing to put up a defense at the mere \u003cem class=\"lu\">hint\u003c/em> that someone might be prepping for an attack.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"04c2\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko mp mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">We would take legal action against any attackers.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>This one basically spits in the face of \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#DeFi\u003c/span>. A lot of people within the Ethereum ecosystem are expressly trying to protect themselves from totalitarian governments. Claiming that “your money is safe because those thugs that you are hiding from will protect you” is not reassuring at all. Also, it presumes that the attackers are not anonymous (see below).\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"c3a1\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko mp mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">It is hard to be anonymous on Ethereum.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>Yes, it is a bit tricky to be anonymous on Ethereum. Despite that, The DAO attacker is still unknown. Satoshi is still unknown. Many very wealthy ETH holders are unknown. Being hard isn’t a good defense against a massively profitable attack.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"5b86\" class=\"lv lw ij ku b kv me kz mf ld mg lh mh ll mi ko mp mb mc md dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ku ik\">\u003cem class=\"lu\">It is a known risk, but there are unknown risks that may be worse.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003cbr>I disagree pretty strongly with this risk assessment. You have a known risk where it is \u003cem class=\"lu\">incredibly profitable\u003c/em> to attack the system and that is being compared against unknown risks of unknown impact and unknown likelihood. This line of thinking is along the lines of, “there is no attack vector that is worth us giving up our control for.”\u003c/li>\u003c/ul>\u003ch1 id=\"3464\" class=\"jg jh ij bd ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp jq jr js jt ju jv jw jx jy jz ka kb kc kd dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Disclosure\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"56a6\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ks kt ij ku b kv kw kx ky kz la lb lc ld le lf lg lh li lj lk ll lm ln lo ko hm dt\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Maker has been aware of this issue since before Maker v2 launched, probably since the beginning. Despite this, they are \u003cem class=\"lu\">choosing\u003c/em> not to plug the hole (the plug is easy). 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Today I paid $.003 for a \"average speed\" tx on Ethereum! I haven't seen this in YEARS","author":"CryptoRocky","replies":["t1_fa8qg1t","t1_fa8srkj","t1_fa999ey","t1_fa9esuy","t1_fa9cok9","t1_fa9bpoo","t1_fa9ezaf","t1_fa9dv3b","t1_fa9fi63","t1_fa9fhwk","t1_fa9hy8e","t1_fa9ky8t","t1_fa9jye4","t1_fa9jd4o","t1_fa9kp5z","t1_fa9mrnn","t1_fa9msny","t1_fa9md5i","t1_fa9lhat","t1_fa9p6p8","t1_fa9p17n","t1_fa9p4dt","t1_fa9p4zy","t1_fa9p899","t1_fa9se6q","t1_fa9s56q","t1_fa9s8hd","t1_fa9s69x","t1_fa9umpv","t1_fa9uosw","t1_fa9skad","t1_fa9ug63","t1_fa9usa5","t1_fa9tlcg","t1_fa9uhfl","t1_fa9ukok","t1_fa9uulu","t1_fa9uj35","t1_fa9sftw","t1_fa9ud9b","t1_fa9u25q","t1_fa9tz4k","t1_fa9twfa","t1_fa9to90","t1_fa9unmb","t1_fa9u6e0","t1_fa9tfye","t1_fa9stju","t1_fa9tdyr","t1_fa9v72p","t1_fa9v77i","t1_fa9xwr3","t1_fa9xuym","t1_fa9v7dk","t1_fa9v7ho","t1_fa9v7si","t1_fa9v7xw","t1_fa9v83c","t1_fa9wn5z","t1_fa9wzq9","t1_fa9v4r0","t1_faa0yof","t1_faa3i84","t1_faadori","t1_faag10z","t1_faalw5s","t1_faafxs7","t1_faap0l9","t1_fabe9vm","t1_fabdixo","t1_fabgkk6","t1_fac708u","t1_fac78im","t1_fac7g2p","t1_facapd3","t1_fac7mfs","t1_fadkd5l","t1_fadlihu","t1_fadlr5b","t1_fadl3fr","t1_fadsgzq","t1_fadsisk","t1_fadsfyw","t1_faef5ou"],"directReplies":["t1_fa8qg1t","t1_fa8srkj","t1_fa999ey","t1_fa9dv3b","t1_fa9kp5z","t1_faa3i84","t1_fac7mfs"],"upvotes":230,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":525,"score":530,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":368,"score":372,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"eth","activity":364,"score":367,"relativeScore":0.99},{"topic":"bnb","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":0.01}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":525,"score":530,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":368,"score":372,"relativeScore":1},"eth":{"topic":"eth","activity":364,"score":367,"relativeScore":0.99},"bnb":{"topic":"bnb","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":0.01}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"_id":"t3_e829xg","updates":41,"time":1575852101000,"first":1575853506931,"source":"reddit.com","url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/e829xg/istanbul_today_i_paid_003_for_a_average_speed_tx/","added":"2020-05-18T13:56:09.983Z","content":"The title says it all. Paid .000023 Eth for a transaction which showed as $0.00. When I checked USD conversion it came out to .003xxx USD (less than 1 cent)\n\nIs this because of Istanbul? I think 4 of the 6 EIP were addressing fees in some regard I think?\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\nI appreciate all of the insights and feedback guys. I am still curious though, and don't see clear answer for my original question. Is Istanbul having a positive effect on congestion and fees?","timely":true,"totalUpvotes":525,"score":530,"nReplies":80,"html":"\u003cp>The title says it all. Paid .000023 Eth for a transaction which showed as $0.00. When I checked USD conversion it came out to .003xxx USD (less than 1 cent)\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Is this because of Istanbul? I think 4 of the 6 EIP were addressing fees in some regard I think?\u003c/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\u003cbr class=\"merged\">\u003cbr>\u003cp>I appreciate all of the insights and feedback guys. I am still curious though, and don't see clear answer for my original question. Is Istanbul having a positive effect on congestion and fees?\u003c/p>","origin":"in r/ethereum","type":"rpost","merged":true,"favorites":null,"__at":"2024-09-11T12:26:03.528Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t3_e829xg","icon":"reddit"},"t3_e86376":{"original":{"gilded":1,"subreddit_name_prefixed":"r/ethfinance","downs":0,"upvote_ratio":1,"total_awards_received":2,"media_embed":{},"is_original_content":false,"author_fullname":"t2_6l4z3","secure_media_embed":{},"num_duplicates":0,"author_premium":true,"steward_reports":[],"gildings":{"gid_1":1,"gid_2":1},"is_self":true,"domain":"self.ethfinance","allow_live_comments":true,"suggested_sort":"new","score":179,"no_follow":true,"all_awardings":[{"count":1,"is_enabled":true,"subreddit_id":null,"description":"Gives the author a week of Reddit Premium, %{coin_symbol}100 Coins to do with as they please, and shows a Gold Award.","end_date":null,"coin_reward":100,"icon_url":"https://www.redditstatic.com/gold/awards/icon/gold_512.png","days_of_premium":7,"is_new":false,"subreddit_coin_reward":0,"icon_height":512,"award_sub_type":"GLOBAL","resized_icons":[{"url":"https://www.redditstatic.com/gold/awards/icon/gold_16.png","width":16,"height":16},{"url":"https://www.redditstatic.com/gold/awards/icon/gold_32.png","width":32,"height":32},{"url":"https://www.redditstatic.com/gold/awards/icon/gold_48.png","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https://www.redditstatic.com/gold/awards/icon/gold_64.png","width":64,"height":64},{"url":"https://www.redditstatic.com/gold/awards/icon/gold_128.png","width":128,"height":128}],"days_of_drip_extension":0,"award_type":"global","coin_price":500,"id":"gid_2","icon_width":512,"start_date":null,"name":"Gold"},{"count":1,"is_enabled":true,"subreddit_id":null,"description":"Shows the Silver Award... and that's it.","end_date":null,"coin_reward":0,"icon_url":"https://www.redditstatic.com/gold/awards/icon/silver_512.png","days_of_premium":0,"is_new":false,"subreddit_coin_reward":0,"icon_height":512,"award_sub_type":"GLOBAL","resized_icons":[{"url":"https://www.redditstatic.com/gold/awards/icon/silver_16.png","width":16,"height":16},{"url":"https://www.redditstatic.com/gold/awards/icon/silver_32.png","width":32,"height":32},{"url":"https://www.redditstatic.com/gold/awards/icon/silver_48.png","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https://www.redditstatic.com/gold/awards/icon/silver_64.png","width":64,"height":64},{"url":"https://www.redditstatic.com/gold/awards/icon/silver_128.png","width":128,"height":128}],"days_of_drip_extension":0,"award_type":"global","coin_price":100,"id":"gid_1","icon_width":512,"start_date":null,"name":"Silver"}],"awarders":["kromatikus"],"is_robot_indexable":true,"num_comments":349,"send_replies":false,"subreddit_subscribers":13807,"content":"Welcome to the Daily General Discussion thread of /r/ethfinance.\n\n***\n\nThread guidelines:\n\n- Please refrain from discussing non-Ethereum related tokens here.\n- All [sub rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/ethfinance/about/rules/) apply here so please be familiar with them.\n- **r/ethfinance Official Twitter**: https://twitter.com/EthfinanceR\n- **r/ethfinance Official Discord**: https://discord.gg/Q7VENsS\n\n***\n\nTo view live streaming comments for this thread, [click here](https://reddit-stream.com/comments/auto). 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have been making the headlines in recent months, attracting big investors, tempted by the allure of a on ‘non-volatile’ cryptocurrency. At first, we usually pay attention to the backing connection, in other words, to the coin’s stabilizing mechanism. Broadly speaking, this is broken down into 3 categories: asset-backed (including fiat), crypto-backed, and non-backed stablecoins (including algorithms and the Seigniorage shares’ approach).This is a great way of introducing the concept of stablecoins and a good basis for providing an overview, but it doesn’t paint a full picture in terms of how the composition of stablecoins can ultimately affect its utility and usability. To do this, we need to include 3 additional, but equally important, aspects into stablecoin discussions, i.e. pegging, collateralization, and redeemability.These 3 aspects provide a more rounded explanation of how stablecoins work, how they are constructed, and how their utility and usability ultimately depend on it.PeggingWhat is pegging?Pegging is commonly associated with the world of foreign exchange, where the currency of one country is fixed or “pegged” to that of a country with a more stable economy. The main goal of currency pegs is to bring stability to more volatile economies, but it’s also a beneficial mechanism for trading partners to make exports more competitive while keeping import costs down.Currency pegs stem from the Gold Standard that originated in early 18th century England, and the Bretton Woods agreement that was implemented after World War 2. Under this agreement, most Western European countries fixed (or pegged) their currencies to that of the United States, who in turn pegged the US Dollar to gold. Although the agreement was finally dissolved in 1973, it was very effective in the post-war era to stabilize economies and promote growth.With cryptocurrencies today, we see the idea of stablecoins, such as USDVault, TrueUSD, Tether, Circle, Gemini, and Paxos Standard pegging 1:1 to a steady fiat currency like the US Dollar.But the phenomenon is also still present in a traditional economy. Many countries use pegging to fix their currency, most commonly to either the USD or EUR. Very rarely though is it 1:1. Examples include the Hong Kong Dollar, pegged to the USD at a rate of 7.75 to 7.85, and the Danish Krone pegged to the EUR at 7.46. Different types of peggingThere are different types of pegging mechanisms and not all pegs are a 100% fixed.Crawling pegA crawling peg is a fixed exchange rate but one that is allowed to fluctuate between the par value of the pegged currency and a range of predetermined rates. The par value may be periodically adjusted to account for inflation and other market conditions to increase stability. This allows an exchange rate to adjust over a period of time instead of a sudden currency devaluation.A commonly referenced example, refers to Mexico, which implemented a crawling peg against the USD in the 1990’s. This allowed it to gradually devalue its currency (hence the term crawl) over time, until it reached an acceptable exchange rate, thereby avoiding economic instability associated with dramatic currency devaluations.Adjustable pegAn adjustable peg is also a fixed exchange rate, but one that that has a predetermined level of flexibility built into it (normally between one and two percent). If the rate moves beyond this range, the central bank will intervene to bring the rate back to the target peg. The goal is to allow a country to stay competitive in the export market.Many developing Asian nations have been known to operate such an exchange rate regime in the past, including Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, and South Korea, to restrict the degree of fluctuation towards the dollar and to allow for cheap exports.Basket pegWith a basket peg, a currency will be pegged to more than one currency in a weighted mechanism, comprising currencies of its most important trading partners. The reason a country might use a basket peg is the same reason an investor would diversify their portfolio; to make the currency even more stable and hedge against the risks a single pegged currency might face when the anchor currency suddenly devalues, such as high inflation.Examples here include the Chinese RMB, which is pegged against a basket of 24 different currencies, and the Fijian Dollar, which is pegged against five different currencies.Commodity pegA currency can also be pegged to a reliable commodity, such as gold. For many years, before WW2 and the Bretton Woods agreement, the Gold Standard was widely used to stabilize currencies. However, governments and economists believe the practice can actually stifle growth. Although central banks might still hold some gold as a form of backing, the last currency to decouple from gold was the Swiss Franc in early 2000.Many cryptocurrencies have been designed with a Gold Standard style mechanism in mind, where one token would be backed by a specific quantity in gold, such as Digix and OneGram for example. That has mixed results, because for investors, prices of commodities are not a relevant unit of account. It doesn’t necessarily have to be gold. Venezuela launched the Petro, an oil-backed cryptocurrency pegged to the price of barrels of Venezuelan crude oil.CollateralizationWhat is collateralization?Collateral is defined as “To offer an asset as a surety that a debt will be repaid.” Basically, it’s the asset that the borrower leverages to secure a loan from the lender. The most common example we’ll all be familiar with is mortgages, where the bank customer is able to obtain a loan to buy a house based on the provision that the bank may repossess the house if the customer defaults on their repayments. The house serves as backing or security on the loan and reduces the lender’s risk.The same principle can be applied to car financing, buying jewelry, or art. Businesses can also leverage their existing equipment to obtain financing. With stablecoins, the collateral refers to the commodity or fiat (i.e. USD, EUR). For every fiat collateralized token a platform issues, they should hold an equal amount of fiat currency as collateral, but this is not always the case, as we’ll see later. The same goes for commodity-backed assets, for every token a gold backed stablecoin platform issues, they should hold an equal value of physical gold as collateral, but, again, this does not always happen.Difference between backing and collateralWhen a currency is backed by another commodity or asset, it does not necessarily mean the holder of the currency has that surety to exchange it, or have a claim on, the backed commodity. If we look at the Venezuelan Petro, example above, a holder of Petro tokens cannot exchange it for a physical barrel of crude oil. However, it does mean that physical barrels of crude oil are held in reserves to stabilize the cryptocurrency and to give it a fixed exchange rate.It’s the same principle with gold-backed currencies, where physical gold might be held in reserves to back the currency and to stabilize it, but holders of the currency do not necessarily have a claim on the physical gold, only that they can redeem their currency at a fixed exchange rate against the gold.Collateralization is different though. As Investopedia states it, “Collateralization occurs when a borrower pledges an asset as recourse to the lender in the event that the borrower defaults on the initial loan.” That means in the case of collateralized cryptocurrencies, the holder of such a coin has an actual claim on the collateral, i.e. they can exchange it directly for its value in gold, USD, or even other cryptocurrencies.Level of backingMost asset-backed stablecoins will claim to be fully backed by the underlying asset. However, understandably, these claims are subject to be scrutinized unless backed up by unbiased, 3rd party auditing entities. One of the most famous stablecoins, Tether (USDT), has been under fire for months since they parted ways with their auditor and have not been able to provide conclusive evidence that they hold 1:1 US dollars in reserve for every USDT that they issue and therefore might be severely under-collateralized.Other stablecoins like Saga, are actually backed by a fractional reserve (i.e. they don’t hold the entire backed asset in physical reserves) and pegged to the International Monetary Fund's SDR (Special Drawing Rights), an international reserve asset.On the other hand, a gold-backed stablecoin such as USDVault, is fully collateralized, meaning physical gold reserves to back issued tokens are held in vaults, which are transparently audited to make sure the stated value of gold actually exists, and a hedge mechanism is in place to maintain 1:1 USD price stability.It is also possible for stablecoins to be over-collateralized. This is often the case when the actual collateral is another cryptocurrency, like with BitShares (BitUSD, BitCNY) and MakerDAO (DAI).The issue with crypto-backed stablecoins is that the underlying asset can be just as volatile as the actual coin. So to counter that, the stablecoin will be over-collateralized, sometimes as much as 200%, so that when the backing cryptocurrency falls 25%, 50% or even 75%, there is still more than 100% of the value left to keep the price of the stablecoin from fluctuating. The important thing to determine is that, whether we are talking about the backing of a stablecoin or securing a loan, is the underlying asset adequate and reliable enough to achieve its purpose, i.e. to act as a security or to maintain stability?RedeemabilityRedeemability is closely related to our previous discussion on backing and collateralization. When a stablecoin is backed by a certain asset, it does not necessarily mean that the holder can redeem their token in exchange for that underlying asset.If we look at Tether as an example, it’s backed 1:1 by USD, but is not directly redeemable for USD. On the other hand, TrueUSD, a stablecoin designed on the same basis, i.e. backed 1:1 by the US dollar, is in fact, redeemable 1:1 with the US dollar.In more traditional financial markets, the question of redemption is very valid in bankruptcy law, and dictates certain conditions that have to be met before an individual can actually redeem their claim on an asset, for said asset. Basically, unless explicitly and unambiguously stated, when a currency is backed by an asset, the user should not assume that they automatically have a legal claim on that asset.There are various benefits for asset redeemable stablecoins. One being that it serves as a confirmation in itself that the underlying collateral actually exists, that it’s not a baseless claim. It also provides practical use cases to users, such as, in the case of gold-backed stable coins, not having to convert to fiat for redemption and therefore avoid exposure to currency fees and price fluctuations.ConclusionAs the market matures, stablecoins are becoming a more prevalent presence in the cryptocurrency space. New investors are continually looking to get into the crypto market, but at low risk and high security, while seasoned investors are looking for options to stabilize their portfolios and a safe haven in case of severe market downturns.This continued search is sure to bring up some interesting mixing and matching of pegs and backings. Who says you can’t have a stable coin backed by Ether and pegged to the Japanese Yen? Ethereum Founder and cryptocurrency influencer, Vitalik Buterin, had the following to say on the need for effective stablecoins:“Are stable-value assets necessary? Given the high level of interest in \"blockchain technology\" coupled with disinterest in \"Bitcoin the currency\" that we see among so many in the mainstream world, perhaps the time is ripe for stable-currency or multi-currency systems to take over.”","html":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/stable-coins-analysis-is-there-a-viable-solution-for-the-future\">Stablecoins\u003c/a> have been making the headlines in recent months, attracting big investors, tempted by the allure of a on ‘non-volatile’ cryptocurrency. At first, we usually pay attention to the backing connection, in other words, to the coin’s stabilizing mechanism. Broadly speaking, this is broken down into 3 categories: asset-backed (including fiat), crypto-backed, and non-backed stablecoins (including algorithms and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/seigniorage.asp\" target=\"_blank\">Seigniorage\u003c/a> shares’ approach).\u003c/p>\u003cp>This is a great way of introducing the concept of stablecoins and a good basis for providing an overview, but it doesn’t paint a full picture in terms of how the composition of stablecoins can ultimately affect its utility and usability. To do this, we need to include 3 additional, but equally important, aspects into stablecoin discussions, i.e. pegging, collateralization, and redeemability.\u003c/p>\u003cp>These 3 aspects provide a more rounded explanation of how stablecoins work, how they are constructed, and how their utility and usability ultimately depend on it.\u003c/p>\u003ch2>Pegging\u003c/h2>\u003ch3>What is pegging?\u003c/h3>\u003cp>Pegging is commonly associated with the world of foreign exchange, where the currency of one country is fixed or “\u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/zimbabwe-unleashes-new-dollar-pegged-currency-should-switch-to-bitcoin-instead\">pegged\u003c/a>” to that of a country with a more stable economy. The main goal of currency pegs is to bring stability to more volatile economies, but it’s also a beneficial mechanism for trading partners to make exports more competitive while keeping import costs down.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Currency pegs stem from the \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/is-cryptocurrency-real-money-brief-discussion-on-major-issues-surrounding-debate\">Gold Standard\u003c/a> that originated in early 18th century England, and the Bretton Woods agreement that was implemented after World War 2. Under this agreement, most Western European countries fixed (or pegged) their currencies to that of the United States, who in turn pegged the US Dollar to gold. Although the agreement was finally dissolved in 1973, it was very effective in the post-war era to stabilize economies and promote growth.\u003c/p>\u003cp>With cryptocurrencies today, we see the idea of stablecoins, such as USDVault, TrueUSD, \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/controversial-stablecoin-tether-issues-new-batch-of-usdt-tokens-worth-50-million\">Tether\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/breaking-circle-internet-financial-launches-stablecoin-usd-coin\">Circle\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/winklevoss-gemini-crypto-exchange-secures-insurance-coverage-for-custodied-assets\">Gemini\u003c/a>, and \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockchain-trust-company-paxos-launches-ny-regulator-approved-usd-backed-stablecoin\">Paxos Standard\u003c/a> pegging 1:1 to a steady fiat currency like the US Dollar.\u003c/p>\u003cp>But the phenomenon is also still present in a traditional economy. Many countries use pegging to fix their currency, most commonly to either the USD or EUR. Very rarely though is it 1:1. Examples include the Hong Kong Dollar, pegged to the USD at a rate of 7.75 to 7.85, and the Danish Krone pegged to the EUR at 7.46. \u003c/p>\u003ch3>Different types of pegging\u003c/h3>\u003cp>There are different types of pegging mechanisms and not all pegs are a 100% fixed.\u003c/p>\u003ch4>Crawling peg\u003c/h4>\u003cp>A crawling peg is a fixed exchange rate but one that is allowed to fluctuate between the \u003ca href=\"https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/crawlingpeg.asp\" target=\"_blank\">par value\u003c/a> of the pegged currency and a range of predetermined rates. The par value may be periodically adjusted to account for inflation and other market conditions to increase stability. This allows an exchange rate to adjust over a period of time instead of a sudden currency devaluation.\u003c/p>\u003cp>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ8fh8uvU9Y\" target=\"_blank\">commonly referenced example\u003c/a>, refers to \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/mexico\">Mexico\u003c/a>, which implemented a crawling peg against the USD in the 1990’s. This allowed it to gradually devalue its currency (hence the term crawl) over time, until it reached an acceptable exchange rate, thereby avoiding economic instability associated with dramatic currency devaluations.\u003c/p>\u003ch4>Adjustable peg\u003c/h4>\u003cp>An adjustable peg is also a fixed exchange rate, but one that that has a predetermined level of flexibility built into it (normally between one and two percent). If the rate moves beyond this range, the central bank will intervene to bring the rate back to the target peg. The goal is to allow a country to \u003ca href=\"https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/adjustable-peg.asp\" target=\"_blank\">stay competitive in the export market\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Many developing \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Asian_financial_crisis\" target=\"_blank\">Asian nations\u003c/a> have been known to operate such an exchange rate regime in the past, including Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, and \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/south-korea\">South Korea\u003c/a>, to restrict the degree of fluctuation towards the dollar and to allow for cheap exports.\u003c/p>\u003ch4>Basket peg\u003c/h4>\u003cp>With a basket peg, a currency will be pegged to more than one currency in a weighted mechanism, comprising currencies of its most important trading partners. The reason a country might use a basket peg is the same reason an investor would diversify their portfolio; to make the currency even more stable and hedge against the risks a single pegged currency might face when the anchor currency suddenly devalues, such as high inflation.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Examples here include the \u003ca href=\"https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-markets-yuan-idUSKBN14N05O\" target=\"_blank\">Chinese RMB\u003c/a>, which is pegged against a basket of 24 different currencies, and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.rbf.gov.fj/getattachment/Home/RBF-Exchange-Rates_021116.pdf?lang=en-US\" target=\"_blank\">Fijian Dollar\u003c/a>, which is pegged against five different currencies.\u003c/p>\u003ch4>Commodity peg\u003c/h4>\u003cp>A currency can also be pegged to a reliable commodity, such as gold. For many years, before WW2 and the Bretton Woods agreement, the \u003ca href=\"https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/goldstandard.asp\" target=\"_blank\">Gold Standard\u003c/a> was widely used to stabilize currencies. However, governments and economists believe the practice can actually stifle growth. Although central banks might still hold some gold as a form of backing, the last currency to decouple from gold was the Swiss Franc in early 2000.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Many cryptocurrencies have been designed with a Gold Standard style mechanism in mind, where one token would be backed by a specific quantity in gold, such as \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/worlds-first-gold-backed-blockchain-debit-card-to-be-built-by-digixglobal-monolith\">Digix\u003c/a> and OneGram for example. That has mixed results, because for investors, prices of commodities are not a relevant unit of account. It doesn’t necessarily have to be gold. Venezuela launched the \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/venezuelas-controversial-petro-sale-starting-november-maduro-claims\">Petro\u003c/a>, an oil-backed cryptocurrency pegged to the price of barrels of Venezuelan crude oil.\u003c/p>\u003ch2>Collateralization\u003c/h2>\u003ch3>What is collateralization?\u003c/h3>\u003cp>Collateral is \u003ca href=\"https://financial-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/collateralization\" target=\"_blank\">defined\u003c/a> as “To offer an asset as a surety that a debt will be repaid.” Basically, it’s the asset that the borrower leverages to secure a loan from the lender. The most common example we’ll all be familiar with is \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/chinese-state-bank-uses-blockchain-to-issue-digital-mortgages-worth-13-billion\">mortgages\u003c/a>, where the bank customer is able to obtain a loan to buy a house based on the provision that the bank may repossess the house if the customer defaults on their repayments. The house serves as backing or security on the loan and reduces the lender’s risk.\u003c/p>\u003cp>The same principle can be applied to car financing, buying jewelry, or art. Businesses can also leverage their existing equipment to obtain financing. With stablecoins, the collateral refers to the commodity or fiat (i.e. USD, EUR). For every fiat collateralized token a platform issues, they should hold an equal amount of fiat currency as collateral, but this is not always the case, as we’ll see later. The same goes for commodity-backed assets, for every token a gold backed stablecoin platform issues, they should hold an equal value of physical gold as collateral, but, again, this does not always happen.\u003c/p>\u003ch3>Difference between backing and collateral\u003c/h3>\u003cp>When a currency is backed by another commodity or asset, it does not necessarily mean the holder of the currency has that surety to exchange it, or have a claim on, the backed commodity. If we look at the Venezuelan Petro, example above, a holder of Petro tokens cannot exchange it for a physical barrel of crude oil. However, it does mean that physical barrels of crude oil are held in reserves to stabilize the cryptocurrency and to give it a fixed exchange rate.\u003c/p>\u003cp>It’s the same principle with gold-backed currencies, where physical gold might be held in reserves to back the currency and to stabilize it, but holders of the currency do not necessarily have a claim on the physical gold, only that they can redeem their currency at a fixed exchange rate against the gold.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Collateralization is different though. As \u003ca href=\"https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/collateralization.asp\" target=\"_blank\">Investopedia\u003c/a> states it, “Collateralization occurs when a borrower pledges an asset as recourse to the lender in the event that the borrower defaults on the initial loan.” That means in the case of collateralized cryptocurrencies, the holder of such a coin has an actual claim on the collateral, i.e. they can exchange it directly for its value in gold, USD, or even other cryptocurrencies.\u003c/p>\u003ch3>Level of backing\u003c/h3>\u003cp>Most asset-backed stablecoins will claim to be fully backed by the underlying asset. However, understandably, these claims are subject to be scrutinized unless backed up by unbiased, 3rd party auditing entities. One of the most famous stablecoins, Tether (USDT), has been under fire for months since they parted ways with their auditor and have not been able to provide \u003ca href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/19/what-the-hell-is-the-deal-with-tether/?guccounter=1\" target=\"_blank\">conclusive evidence\u003c/a> that they hold 1:1 US dollars in reserve for every USDT that they issue and therefore might be severely under-collateralized.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Other stablecoins like \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/swiss-foundation-gets-30mln-to-start-non-volatile-cryptocurrency\">Saga\u003c/a>, are actually backed by a \u003ca href=\"https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fractionalreservebanking.asp\" target=\"_blank\">fractional reserve\u003c/a> (i.e. they don’t hold the entire backed asset in physical reserves) and pegged to the International Monetary Fund's SDR (\u003ca href=\"https://www.imf.org/en/About/Factsheets/Sheets/2016/08/01/14/51/Special-Drawing-Right-SDR\" target=\"_blank\">Special Drawing Rights\u003c/a>), an international reserve asset.\u003c/p>\u003cp>On the other hand, a gold-backed stablecoin such as USDVault, is fully collateralized, meaning physical gold reserves to back issued tokens are held in vaults, which are transparently audited to make sure the stated value of gold actually exists, and a hedge mechanism is in place to maintain 1:1 USD price stability.\u003c/p>\u003cp>It is also possible for stablecoins to be over-collateralized. This is often the case when the actual collateral is another cryptocurrency, like with \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/bitshares\">BitShares\u003c/a> (BitUSD, BitCNY) and \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/andreessen-horowitz-invests-15-million-in-stablecoin-firm-makerdao\">MakerDAO\u003c/a> (DAI).\u003c/p>\u003cp>The issue with crypto-backed stablecoins is that the underlying asset can be just as volatile as the actual coin. So to counter that, the stablecoin will be over-collateralized, sometimes as much as 200%, so that when the backing cryptocurrency falls 25%, 50% or even 75%, there is still more than 100% of the value left to keep the price of the stablecoin from fluctuating. The important thing to determine is that, whether we are talking about the backing of a stablecoin or securing a loan, is the underlying asset adequate and reliable enough to achieve its purpose, i.e. to act as a security or to maintain stability?\u003c/p>\u003ch2>Redeemability\u003c/h2>\u003cp>Redeemability is closely related to our previous discussion on backing and collateralization. When a stablecoin is backed by a certain asset, it does not necessarily mean that the holder can redeem their token in exchange for that underlying asset.\u003c/p>\u003cp>If we look at Tether as an example, it’s backed 1:1 by USD, but is \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMarkets/comments/7l6pzb/tether_announce_that_tethers_are_no_longer/\" target=\"_blank\">not directly redeemable for USD\u003c/a>. On the other hand, TrueUSD, a stablecoin designed on the same basis, i.e. backed 1:1 by the US dollar, is in fact, redeemable 1:1 with the US dollar.\u003c/p>\u003cp>In more traditional financial markets, the question of redemption is very valid in \u003ca href=\"https://phillipsandthomas.com/2014/03/20/redemption-of-secured-collateral-in-a-chapter-7-bankruptcy/\" target=\"_blank\">bankruptcy law\u003c/a>, and dictates certain conditions that have to be met before an individual can actually redeem their claim on an asset, for said asset. Basically, unless explicitly and unambiguously stated, when a currency is backed by an asset, the user should not assume that they automatically have a legal claim on that asset.\u003c/p>\u003cp>There are various benefits for asset redeemable stablecoins. One being that it serves as a confirmation in itself that the underlying collateral actually exists, that it’s not a baseless claim. It also provides practical use cases to users, such as, in the case of gold-backed stable coins, not having to convert to fiat for redemption and therefore avoid exposure to currency fees and price fluctuations.\u003c/p>\u003ch2>Conclusion\u003c/h2>\u003cp>As the market matures, stablecoins are becoming a more prevalent presence in the cryptocurrency space. New investors are continually looking to get into the crypto market, but at low risk and high security, while seasoned investors are looking for options to stabilize their portfolios and a safe haven in case of severe market downturns.\u003c/p>\u003cp>This continued search is sure to bring up some interesting mixing and matching of pegs and backings. Who says you can’t have a stable coin backed by Ether and pegged to the Japanese Yen? Ethereum Founder and cryptocurrency influencer, \u003ca href=\"https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/11/11/search-stable-cryptocurrency/\" target=\"_blank\">Vitalik Buterin\u003c/a>, had the following to say on the need for effective stablecoins:\u003c/p>\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“Are stable-value assets necessary? Given the high level of interest in "blockchain technology" coupled with disinterest in "Bitcoin the currency" that we see among so many in the mainstream world, perhaps the time is ripe for stable-currency or multi-currency systems to take over.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>","type":"ghost","description":"We know that stablecoins are backed by something. 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Para garantizar una mayor precisión, la empresa también incluyó términos más generales relacionados con las cadenas de bloques, a la vez que excluía los trabajos de empresas de contratación de terceros. Para calcular los salarios, Glassdoor utilizó su instrumento \"Know Your Worth\" (\"Conozca su valor\").Según el informe, en agosto de 2018 había 1.775 ofertas de trabajo únicas relacionadas con las cadenas de bloques en los EE.UU., mientras que en esta época el año pasado había 446 anuncios de trabajo similares, lo que representa un aumento del 300 por ciento con respecto al año anterior.La mayor proporción de vacantes de empleo se concentra en 15 ciudades, incluyendo la ciudad de Nueva York y San Francisco, con el 24 y el 21 por ciento del total de anuncios de empleo, respectivamente. Les siguen San José, Chicago y Seattle, con 6, 5 y 4 por ciento respectivamente. Las 15 principales ciudades juntas constituyen el 79 por ciento de los anuncios de empleo relacionados con las cadenas de bloques en Estados Unidos, mientras que el 21 por ciento restante se distribuye en el resto del país.Los roles de cadena de bloques más solicitados son principalmente los de técnico e ingeniero, con el ingeniero de software como líder indiscutible, que representa el 19 por ciento del total de los listados de trabajos. En términos más generales, las funciones de ingeniería, tecnología y ciencias representan el 55 por ciento de las vacantes totales de empleo.A pesar del liderazgo de los roles tecnológicos, Glassdoor señala la necesidad de roles de gerente de relaciones con analistas, gerente de producto, analista de riesgos y gerente de marketing también. En particular, las funciones de operadores y analistas de inversiones no figuran en la lista de las 15 principales ocupaciones.En términos de empleadores predominantes en el campo, Glassdoor destaca a la firma de tecnología de software de cadena de bloques ConsenSys e IBM, con más de 200 puestos de trabajo relacionados cada una, así como los intercambios Coinbase y Kraken, la compañía de tecnología Oracle, y la firma de fintech Figure. Los gigantes de los servicios profesionales Accenture y KPMG también están contratando funciones relacionadas con las cadenas de bloques. Glassdoor señaló la ausencia de ofertas de empleo en Facebook, Google y Apple.La herramienta \"Know Your Worth\" de Glassdoor reveló que el salario base medio en el campo de las cadenas de bloques es de $84 884 por año, lo cual es $32 423, o 61.8 por ciento, más alto que el salario medio de los Estados Unidos de $52 461 por año. En total, los sueldos oscilan entre $36 046 por año y $223 667 por año. 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Shoppers can now pay for luxury goods such as fine diamonds, watches and engagement rings using BCH and seven other digital currencies.\n\nRetailer to Cut Costs with\nLow BCH Transaction Fees\nIn addition to BCH, the company is now accepting payments in cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin and ether. “This will allow us to make our fine jewelry available to the global market while paying lower fees and avoiding chargebacks,” Joshua Rubin, director of marketing at Marks Jewelers, said in an online statement. \nMarks Jewelers is already one of the biggest jewelry retailers in the U.S. market. But Rubin said that the new payment methods, established in partnership with e-commerce platform Shopping Cart Elite, will help to expand access to its jewelry range for buyers throughout the world. The Pennsylvania-based company, which has sold diamonds and jewelry for 35 years, said that the removal of currency conversion charges will help it cut costs. 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But Rubin said that the new payment methods, established in partnership with e-commerce platform Shopping Cart Elite, will help to expand access to its jewelry range for buyers throughout the world. The Pennsylvania-based company, which has sold diamonds and jewelry for 35 years, said that the removal of currency conversion charges will help it cut costs. It wants to pass those savings over to jewelry shoppers in the form of lower retail prices.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Cheaper Than Credit Cards\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Marks Jewelers joins a growing list of jewelry retailers, including Samer Halimeh New York and Reeds, that are starting to accept payments in cryptocurrencies such as \u003ca href=\"https://markets.bitcoin.com/crypto/BCH\" target=\"_blank\">BCH\u003c/a>. 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payments network Ripple has announced that it sold $66.24 million worth of XRP in Q3 2019 — down a staggering 73.66% compared to the record sale worth of $251.51 million in the previous quarter.According to the third quarterly report released on Oct. 18, Ripple had previously announced the plan to sell XRP tokens slower in Q3.Ripple’s XRP sale rate is lower than ETH’s inflationRipple also stated that “XRP distribution rate since the beginning of the quarter has been lower compared to the inflation rates of ETH and LTC, and similar to BTC.” The company also addressed the allegations that it is dumping XRP on the market and manipulating its price, claiming that a significant portion of such ideas was spread by bot accounts on Twitter.Accusation of dumping reportedly often pointed to large movements of XRP as proof, but those “were in fact transfers between Ripple treasury and escrow management accounts.“ Such transactions have no direct impact on the market, since they do not introduce 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l\">\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv class=\"bk\" aria-hidden=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"11\" aria-labelledby=\"11\">\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003c/header>\u003cspan class=\"l\">\u003c/span>\u003csection>\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv class=\"ds gv gw gx gy gz\">\u003c/div>\u003cdiv class=\"ha hb hc hd he\">\u003cdiv class=\"\">\u003ch1 id=\"3de0\" class=\"pw-post-title hf hg hh bd hi hj hk hl hm hn ho hp hq hr hs ht hu hv hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">If you liked it then you shoulda put a dApp on it\u003c/h1>\u003c/div>\u003cfigure class=\"ev ex if ig ih ii er es paragraph-image\">\u003cdiv role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" class=\"ij ik di il bf im\">\u003cdiv class=\"er es ie\">\u003cpicture>\u003csource srcset=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:640/format:webp/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 640w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/format:webp/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 720w, 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(-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cimg alt=\"\" class=\"bf in io c\" width=\"700\" height=\"395\" loading=\"eager\" role=\"presentation\" src=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:700/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg\">\u003c/picture>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003c/figure>\u003cp id=\"41b3\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cem class=\"jn\">(Edit: this article is written in first person and second, because I wanted to share my ETHBuenosAires experience — MP)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"6111\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">As protocols get upgraded, dApps go from contained lab environments straight into the main net jungle to fight the mythical high gas costs monsters (I am being ironic — I do know how and why gas works that way) and potentially critical bugs are squashed; communities also need to evolve.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"b00e\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">ETHBuenosAires was for me, the perfect testnet environment. I had it easy, I just went there to volunteer, wrote some nice things, had fun tweeting, talking to builders, everything went smoothly. I think from the UX perspective if you wanna call it that, this was incredible.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"0cfd\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">While ETHBuenosAires was concluding, ETHBerlin was firing up. And we understood that it was our duty to take all the teachings from the amazing Argentinian team, all the know-how and evolve it. The ETHBuenosAires team provided the foundation grounds, an invaluable element. They shared with us their lessons learned and the platforms they used. ETHDenver also reached out to offer the same, and we gladly take all feedback — they also got the Colorado coin, so the Berlin coin is a continued effort but again — we started nothing. All credit goes to them, and to Bounties Network.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"f918\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">As a responsible, global community, in constant evolution as is our ecosystem, we need to understand that it is not enough to absorb these teachings and foundations and just replicate. We don’t need to top our precedents, but to raise the bar of our own event because they already did a lot of the hard work for us. In order for the community to grow, we need to evolve and generate a sustainable growth of independent community initiatives that are interconnected by the same ethos, the same culture (and most times, the same people as this train is not really one that makes stops).\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"b5fe\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">As organizers, sponsors, as hackers, as mentors, judges or speakers, we cannot just expect to show up at a hackathon, enjoy the vibe, the parties, the content, hack and get some prizes and recognition. That’s already been well-tested, praised and we know the model works and that we love it. We need to give something back to the community. Mass Adoption will only kick off once we start to adopt the \u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"http://gavwood.com/web3lt.html\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Web 3.0 stack\u003c/a> ourselves. If we are building a tool but not sharing it with friends to test it, then how will we evangelize the wider audience?\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"56b2\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">With this in mind, ETHBerlin has pledged to gather as many dApps as we can find and have our community test them and use them. If we have a working dApp, then why do we keep using the old centralized closed source apps? “Because they are easy to use” is not the answer. We got a bunch of UX guys working to make our dApps as usable as the old ones, so we need to help them out. We, the ETHBerlin community, are a great user base to test the grounds before mass adoption. But we cannot tell others about the wonders of decentralization without having tested what we are building before. So we need to first be aware of what’s going on, explore it, and then move on to suggest alternatives to a wider audience.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"d503\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">\u003cem class=\"jn\">So, as our friend and collaborator, \u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"https://twitter.com/mr_ligi/status/1024311626588205056\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">\u003cem class=\"jn\">Mr. Ligi said, we need to eat our own dog food (a delicious one — by the way)\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">\u003cem class=\"jn\">. Let’s educate by example and not with empty words.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"25f5\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">So, without further do, the ETHBerlin collective is proud to announce our further contribution to the ecosystem. We haven’t come up with a name yet, but for now, let’s call it “If you like then you shoulda put a dApp on it” (yes its a Beyoncé reference — in tech — deal with it).\u003c/p>\u003cul class=\"\">\u003cli id=\"789d\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is it iw ix ja jr je js ji jt jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Bye centralised messaging systems, hello \u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"http://status.im\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Status\u003c/a>!: so, why are we still using telegram when the guys from Status have successfully shipped a working chat dApp that protects your data? Are you not tired of the Nigerian Princes popping up in your private messages saying you need to help them get some BTC out of a wallet? Well then drop that c**p. You shoulda dropped it when they ICOd already. At ETHBerlin our only mobile chat is the Status one. We will have desktop Riot, who we believe adjusts to our principles as well, as a back-up. But to grow the community, we need to do it in a secure manner, so this is it. Drop your telegram and your slack. \u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">Find your dream couch-surfing, engage with your friends and discover people on the #ETHBerlin channel,\u003c/strong> you can add us, and if we do the same, you’ll see our identity. \u003cem class=\"jn\">Cue to Maciej from Status: dude, ship the reply feature.\u003c/em>\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"b69f\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">We got a coin, b***es: \u003c/strong>this has been announced before, so there is not much more to add. \u003ca class=\"ae jo\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"/bounties-network/announcing-berlincoin-tokenizing-berlins-unique-ethos-2d8a4eea648a\">Bounties Network has created the Berlin coin for us\u003c/a>, alongside a bounties platform where you will be able to tip speakers, mentors, anyone with a cool shirt, complete challenges to adopt other dApps- the person that wins the most BRLN at the end of the hackathon, shall be prized and named Der/das dAppmeister/in Supreme.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"58cc\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">Inception: \u003c/strong>as we said, we’re implementing Status- but Status is not only a chat. Status is a mobile Ethereum client and a wallet too. So when it came to the time to see which wallet to use for BRLN, it was a no-brainer to integrate the Bounties Network into Status, and a partnership was formed. ETHBerlin helps businesses too. Inside the Status client, we are working on other integrations, you’ll see them on the list.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"7e58\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"http://www.noblockno.party\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">Blockparty: \u003c/strong>\u003c/a>forget Eventbrite and their sketchy data policy. Makoto & team will be helping out by deploying Blockparty contracts for our community events. Learn more here. \u003ca class=\"ae jo\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"/@makoto_inoue/self-audit-a-new-bug-and-call-for-community-auditing-of-blockparty-e774a8596496\">Also, we need people to help them audit the contract, if you are a flawed smart contract sommelier (or auditor) please help us. \u003c/a>Blockparty will also live inside the Status client.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"3faa\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"http://livepeer.org\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">Livepeer: OF COURSE WE ARE NOT STREAMING ON YOUTUBE. \u003c/strong>\u003c/a>That’s a garbage fire full of ads we don’t want (seriously, there has been one saying that crypto has three uses HODL, invest and trading — I AM DEAD SERIOUS). They are also taking down vids and streams a piacere. We ain’t having it., Livepeer it is. And we’re ramping it up by testing the implementation of Livepeer (again) via the Status client for mobile support. Yay.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"d24e\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Oh hai decentralized virtual reality: we cannot say much yet about this point, but expect waves. And VR lands. We’ll let you jump to conclusions.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"328d\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">Hotels go Blockchain (coming this week!): \u003c/strong>Winding Tree is a blockchain powered travel ecosystem. We haven’t partnered with any hotels because we heard from this dApp and we wanted to wait till they were ready. Now you can book your fancy schmancy hotel via the dApp with a special discount. Moreover, you will be in control of your data, reviews, and more. Through dApps like this, we will not encounter any more nasty surprises from rigged Trip Advisor/Google ratings :)\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"6686\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The mighty\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\"> Olympia by \u003c/strong>\u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"https://gnosis.pm\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">Gnosis\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\"> \u003c/strong>steps into the scene providing one of the most important things for us: we wanted to create a people’s choice award, and started thinking how to do it: a TCR? A raffle? Some centralized voting app? NO! We chose to run the PM catalyzed by Gnosis for this and other fun queries. In the end, the people’s choice award winners will also receive a prize from the Open Track Bounty. Your feedback matters to us, and we wanted to provide a robust platform for you to become a hackathon judge as well (however — don’t try to game it — Lama the product manager for Olympia and team are evaluating scenarios and assessing risks. You don’t want to provoke Lama, she’s badass)\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"d888\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Additionally, we are setting up a bounty for people that adopt\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\"> \u003c/strong>\u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"https://ens.domains\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">ENS\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\"> \u003c/strong>— for a more secure Web 3.0\u003c/li>\u003c/ul>\u003cp id=\"d1f6\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">While we wait for other dApps to come onto the scene, we are still testing these that we have. \u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">We are also working on a knowledge base where you will be able to see all the frameworks, toolkits, wikis, stacks and challenges that our sponsors are putting together for you to try to win their prizes. In our next post, Helena, our PR hero will be introing some of our sponsors, while we build together the ultimate resource library for our most respected hackers.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"38ae\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">ETHBerlin stands strong: we think that dApps are the future, so we’ll do whatever it takes to push adoption, and inspire you to build more of them. There is room for all. Stay tuned for more integrations into the ETHBerlin dApp roster, and the knowledge base. We know this is quite a lot of information, but seeing your applications, we know you can take it, challenge us and contribute to switching the paradigms.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"bb79\" class=\"kd ke hh bd kf kg kh ki kj kk kl km kn ko kp kq kr ks kt ku kv kw kx ky kz la bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ak\">BUIDL HARD OR GO HOME.\u003c/strong>\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"a8fb\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is lb iu iv iw lc iy iz ja ld jc jd je le jg jh ji lf jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cem class=\"jn\">You’ve got a working dApp? Do you think there is room for it to be used for something at our event? 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you liked it then you shoulda put a dApp on it(Edit: this article is written in first person and second, because I wanted to share my ETHBuenosAires experience — MP)As protocols get upgraded, dApps go from contained lab environments straight into the main net jungle to fight the mythical high gas costs monsters (I am being ironic — I do know how and why gas works that way) and potentially critical bugs are squashed; communities also need to evolve.ETHBuenosAires was for me, the perfect testnet environment. I had it easy, I just went there to volunteer, wrote some nice things, had fun tweeting, talking to builders, everything went smoothly. I think from the UX perspective if you wanna call it that, this was incredible.While ETHBuenosAires was concluding, ETHBerlin was firing up. And we understood that it was our duty to take all the teachings from the amazing Argentinian team, all the know-how and evolve it. The ETHBuenosAires team provided the foundation grounds, an invaluable element. They shared with us their lessons learned and the platforms they used. ETHDenver also reached out to offer the same, and we gladly take all feedback — they also got the Colorado coin, so the Berlin coin is a continued effort but again — we started nothing. All credit goes to them, and to Bounties Network.As a responsible, global community, in constant evolution as is our ecosystem, we need to understand that it is not enough to absorb these teachings and foundations and just replicate. We don’t need to top our precedents, but to raise the bar of our own event because they already did a lot of the hard work for us. In order for the community to grow, we need to evolve and generate a sustainable growth of independent community initiatives that are interconnected by the same ethos, the same culture (and most times, the same people as this train is not really one that makes stops).As organizers, sponsors, as hackers, as mentors, judges or speakers, we cannot just expect to show up at a hackathon, enjoy the vibe, the parties, the content, hack and get some prizes and recognition. That’s already been well-tested, praised and we know the model works and that we love it. We need to give something back to the community. Mass Adoption will only kick off once we start to adopt the Web 3.0 stack ourselves. If we are building a tool but not sharing it with friends to test it, then how will we evangelize the wider audience?With this in mind, ETHBerlin has pledged to gather as many dApps as we can find and have our community test them and use them. If we have a working dApp, then why do we keep using the old centralized closed source apps? “Because they are easy to use” is not the answer. We got a bunch of UX guys working to make our dApps as usable as the old ones, so we need to help them out. We, the ETHBerlin community, are a great user base to test the grounds before mass adoption. But we cannot tell others about the wonders of decentralization without having tested what we are building before. So we need to first be aware of what’s going on, explore it, and then move on to suggest alternatives to a wider audience.So, as our friend and collaborator, Mr. Ligi said, we need to eat our own dog food (a delicious one — by the way). Let’s educate by example and not with empty words.So, without further do, the ETHBerlin collective is proud to announce our further contribution to the ecosystem. We haven’t come up with a name yet, but for now, let’s call it “If you like then you shoulda put a dApp on it” (yes its a Beyoncé reference — in tech — deal with it).Bye centralised messaging systems, hello Status!: so, why are we still using telegram when the guys from Status have successfully shipped a working chat dApp that protects your data? Are you not tired of the Nigerian Princes popping up in your private messages saying you need to help them get some BTC out of a wallet? Well then drop that c**p. You shoulda dropped it when they ICOd already. At ETHBerlin our only mobile chat is the Status one. We will have desktop Riot, who we believe adjusts to our principles as well, as a back-up. But to grow the community, we need to do it in a secure manner, so this is it. Drop your telegram and your slack. Find your dream couch-surfing, engage with your friends and discover people on the #ETHBerlin channel, you can add us, and if we do the same, you’ll see our identity. Cue to Maciej from Status: dude, ship the reply feature.We got a coin, b***es: this has been announced before, so there is not much more to add. Bounties Network has created the Berlin coin for us, alongside a bounties platform where you will be able to tip speakers, mentors, anyone with a cool shirt, complete challenges to adopt other dApps- the person that wins the most BRLN at the end of the hackathon, shall be prized and named Der/das dAppmeister/in Supreme.Inception: as we said, we’re implementing Status- but Status is not only a chat. Status is a mobile Ethereum client and a wallet too. So when it came to the time to see which wallet to use for BRLN, it was a no-brainer to integrate the Bounties Network into Status, and a partnership was formed. ETHBerlin helps businesses too. Inside the Status client, we are working on other integrations, you’ll see them on the list.Blockparty: forget Eventbrite and their sketchy data policy. Makoto & team will be helping out by deploying Blockparty contracts for our community events. Learn more here. Also, we need people to help them audit the contract, if you are a flawed smart contract sommelier (or auditor) please help us. Blockparty will also live inside the Status client.Livepeer: OF COURSE WE ARE NOT STREAMING ON YOUTUBE. That’s a garbage fire full of ads we don’t want (seriously, there has been one saying that crypto has three uses HODL, invest and trading — I AM DEAD SERIOUS). They are also taking down vids and streams a piacere. We ain’t having it., Livepeer it is. And we’re ramping it up by testing the implementation of Livepeer (again) via the Status client for mobile support. Yay.Oh hai decentralized virtual reality: we cannot say much yet about this point, but expect waves. And VR lands. We’ll let you jump to conclusions.Hotels go Blockchain (coming this week!): Winding Tree is a blockchain powered travel ecosystem. We haven’t partnered with any hotels because we heard from this dApp and we wanted to wait till they were ready. Now you can book your fancy schmancy hotel via the dApp with a special discount. Moreover, you will be in control of your data, reviews, and more. Through dApps like this, we will not encounter any more nasty surprises from rigged Trip Advisor/Google ratings :)The mighty Olympia by Gnosis steps into the scene providing one of the most important things for us: we wanted to create a people’s choice award, and started thinking how to do it: a TCR? A raffle? Some centralized voting app? NO! We chose to run the PM catalyzed by Gnosis for this and other fun queries. In the end, the people’s choice award winners will also receive a prize from the Open Track Bounty. Your feedback matters to us, and we wanted to provide a robust platform for you to become a hackathon judge as well (however — don’t try to game it — Lama the product manager for Olympia and team are evaluating scenarios and assessing risks. You don’t want to provoke Lama, she’s badass)Additionally, we are setting up a bounty for people that adopt ENS — for a more secure Web 3.0While we wait for other dApps to come onto the scene, we are still testing these that we have. We are also working on a knowledge base where you will be able to see all the frameworks, toolkits, wikis, stacks and challenges that our sponsors are putting together for you to try to win their prizes. In our next post, Helena, our PR hero will be introing some of our sponsors, while we build together the ultimate resource library for our most respected hackers.ETHBerlin stands strong: we think that dApps are the future, so we’ll do whatever it takes to push adoption, and inspire you to build more of them. There is room for all. Stay tuned for more integrations into the ETHBerlin dApp roster, and the knowledge base. We know this is quite a lot of information, but seeing your applications, we know you can take it, challenge us and contribute to switching the paradigms.BUIDL HARD OR GO HOME.You’ve got a working dApp? Do you think there is room for it to be used for something at our event? Contact us! joinus@ethberlin.com","html":"\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv class=\"ds gv gw gx gy gz\">\u003c/div>\u003cdiv class=\"ha hb hc hd he\">\u003cdiv class=\"\">\u003ch1 id=\"3de0\" class=\"pw-post-title hf hg hh bd hi hj hk hl hm hn ho hp hq hr hs ht hu hv hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">If you liked it then you shoulda put a dApp on it\u003c/h1>\u003c/div>\u003cfigure class=\"ev ex if ig ih ii er es paragraph-image\">\u003cdiv role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" class=\"ij ik di il bf im\">\u003cdiv class=\"er es ie\">\u003cpicture>\u003csource srcset=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:640/format:webp/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 640w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/format:webp/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 720w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:750/format:webp/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 750w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:786/format:webp/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 786w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:828/format:webp/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 828w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1100/format:webp/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 1100w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/format:webp/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 1400w\" sizes=\"(min-resolution: 4dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 4) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (min-resolution: 3dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 67vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 3) and (max-width: 700px) 65vw, (min-resolution: 2.5dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2.5) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (min-resolution: 2dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" type=\"image/webp\">\u003csource data-testid=\"og\" srcset=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:640/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 640w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 720w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:750/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 750w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:786/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 786w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:828/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 828w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1100/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 1100w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg 1400w\" sizes=\"(min-resolution: 4dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 4) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (min-resolution: 3dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 67vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 3) and (max-width: 700px) 65vw, (min-resolution: 2.5dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2.5) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (min-resolution: 2dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cimg alt=\"\" class=\"bf in io c\" width=\"700\" height=\"395\" loading=\"eager\" role=\"presentation\" src=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:700/1*TwjSEB0KBNlgoYogFpgoig.jpeg\">\u003c/picture>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003c/figure>\u003cp id=\"41b3\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cem class=\"jn\">(Edit: this article is written in first person and second, because I wanted to share my ETHBuenosAires experience — MP)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"6111\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">As protocols get upgraded, dApps go from contained lab environments straight into the main net jungle to fight the mythical high gas costs monsters (I am being ironic — I do know how and why gas works that way) and potentially critical bugs are squashed; communities also need to evolve.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"b00e\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">ETHBuenosAires was for me, the perfect testnet environment. I had it easy, I just went there to volunteer, wrote some nice things, had fun tweeting, talking to builders, everything went smoothly. I think from the UX perspective if you wanna call it that, this was incredible.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"0cfd\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">While ETHBuenosAires was concluding, ETHBerlin was firing up. And we understood that it was our duty to take all the teachings from the amazing Argentinian team, all the know-how and evolve it. The ETHBuenosAires team provided the foundation grounds, an invaluable element. They shared with us their lessons learned and the platforms they used. ETHDenver also reached out to offer the same, and we gladly take all feedback — they also got the Colorado coin, so the Berlin coin is a continued effort but again — we started nothing. All credit goes to them, and to Bounties Network.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"f918\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">As a responsible, global community, in constant evolution as is our ecosystem, we need to understand that it is not enough to absorb these teachings and foundations and just replicate. We don’t need to top our precedents, but to raise the bar of our own event because they already did a lot of the hard work for us. In order for the community to grow, we need to evolve and generate a sustainable growth of independent community initiatives that are interconnected by the same ethos, the same culture (and most times, the same people as this train is not really one that makes stops).\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"b5fe\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">As organizers, sponsors, as hackers, as mentors, judges or speakers, we cannot just expect to show up at a hackathon, enjoy the vibe, the parties, the content, hack and get some prizes and recognition. That’s already been well-tested, praised and we know the model works and that we love it. We need to give something back to the community. Mass Adoption will only kick off once we start to adopt the \u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"http://gavwood.com/web3lt.html\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Web 3.0 stack\u003c/a> ourselves. If we are building a tool but not sharing it with friends to test it, then how will we evangelize the wider audience?\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"56b2\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">With this in mind, ETHBerlin has pledged to gather as many dApps as we can find and have our community test them and use them. If we have a working dApp, then why do we keep using the old centralized closed source apps? “Because they are easy to use” is not the answer. We got a bunch of UX guys working to make our dApps as usable as the old ones, so we need to help them out. We, the ETHBerlin community, are a great user base to test the grounds before mass adoption. But we cannot tell others about the wonders of decentralization without having tested what we are building before. So we need to first be aware of what’s going on, explore it, and then move on to suggest alternatives to a wider audience.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"d503\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">\u003cem class=\"jn\">So, as our friend and collaborator, \u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"https://twitter.com/mr_ligi/status/1024311626588205056\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">\u003cem class=\"jn\">Mr. Ligi said, we need to eat our own dog food (a delicious one — by the way)\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">\u003cem class=\"jn\">. Let’s educate by example and not with empty words.\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"25f5\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">So, without further do, the ETHBerlin collective is proud to announce our further contribution to the ecosystem. We haven’t come up with a name yet, but for now, let’s call it “If you like then you shoulda put a dApp on it” (yes its a Beyoncé reference — in tech — deal with it).\u003c/p>\u003cul class=\"\">\u003cli id=\"789d\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is it iw ix ja jr je js ji jt jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Bye centralised messaging systems, hello \u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"http://status.im\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Status\u003c/a>!: so, why are we still using telegram when the guys from Status have successfully shipped a working chat dApp that protects your data? Are you not tired of the Nigerian Princes popping up in your private messages saying you need to help them get some BTC out of a wallet? Well then drop that c**p. You shoulda dropped it when they ICOd already. At ETHBerlin our only mobile chat is the Status one. We will have desktop Riot, who we believe adjusts to our principles as well, as a back-up. But to grow the community, we need to do it in a secure manner, so this is it. Drop your telegram and your slack. \u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">Find your dream couch-surfing, engage with your friends and discover people on the \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#ETHBerlin\u003c/span> channel,\u003c/strong> you can add us, and if we do the same, you’ll see our identity. \u003cem class=\"jn\">Cue to Maciej from Status: dude, ship the reply feature.\u003c/em>\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"b69f\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">We got a coin, b***es: \u003c/strong>this has been announced before, so there is not much more to add. \u003ca class=\"ae jo\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"/bounties-network/announcing-berlincoin-tokenizing-berlins-unique-ethos-2d8a4eea648a\">Bounties Network has created the Berlin coin for us\u003c/a>, alongside a bounties platform where you will be able to tip speakers, mentors, anyone with a cool shirt, complete challenges to adopt other dApps- the person that wins the most BRLN at the end of the hackathon, shall be prized and named Der/das dAppmeister/in Supreme.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"58cc\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">Inception: \u003c/strong>as we said, we’re implementing Status- but Status is not only a chat. Status is a mobile Ethereum client and a wallet too. So when it came to the time to see which wallet to use for BRLN, it was a no-brainer to integrate the Bounties Network into Status, and a partnership was formed. ETHBerlin helps businesses too. Inside the Status client, we are working on other integrations, you’ll see them on the list.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"7e58\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"http://www.noblockno.party\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">Blockparty: \u003c/strong>\u003c/a>forget Eventbrite and their sketchy data policy. Makoto & team will be helping out by deploying Blockparty contracts for our community events. Learn more here. \u003ca class=\"ae jo\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"/@makoto_inoue/self-audit-a-new-bug-and-call-for-community-auditing-of-blockparty-e774a8596496\">Also, we need people to help them audit the contract, if you are a flawed smart contract sommelier (or auditor) please help us. \u003c/a>Blockparty will also live inside the Status client.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"3faa\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"http://livepeer.org\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">Livepeer: OF COURSE WE ARE NOT STREAMING ON YOUTUBE. \u003c/strong>\u003c/a>That’s a garbage fire full of ads we don’t want (seriously, there has been one saying that crypto has three uses HODL, invest and trading — I AM DEAD SERIOUS). They are also taking down vids and streams a piacere. We ain’t having it., Livepeer it is. And we’re ramping it up by testing the implementation of Livepeer (again) via the Status client for mobile support. Yay.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"d24e\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Oh hai decentralized virtual reality: we cannot say much yet about this point, but expect waves. And VR lands. We’ll let you jump to conclusions.\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"328d\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">Hotels go Blockchain (coming this week!): \u003c/strong>Winding Tree is a blockchain powered travel ecosystem. We haven’t partnered with any hotels because we heard from this dApp and we wanted to wait till they were ready. Now you can book your fancy schmancy hotel via the dApp with a special discount. Moreover, you will be in control of your data, reviews, and more. Through dApps like this, we will not encounter any more nasty surprises from rigged Trip Advisor/Google ratings :)\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"6686\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The mighty\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\"> Olympia by \u003c/strong>\u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"https://gnosis.pm\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">Gnosis\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\"> \u003c/strong>steps into the scene providing one of the most important things for us: we wanted to create a people’s choice award, and started thinking how to do it: a TCR? A raffle? Some centralized voting app? NO! We chose to run the PM catalyzed by Gnosis for this and other fun queries. In the end, the people’s choice award winners will also receive a prize from the Open Track Bounty. Your feedback matters to us, and we wanted to provide a robust platform for you to become a hackathon judge as well (however — don’t try to game it — Lama the product manager for Olympia and team are evaluating scenarios and assessing risks. You don’t want to provoke Lama, she’s badass)\u003c/li>\u003cli id=\"d888\" class=\"jp jq hh ir b is jy iw jz ja ka je kb ji kc jm ju jv jw jx bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Additionally, we are setting up a bounty for people that adopt\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\"> \u003c/strong>\u003ca class=\"ae jo\" href=\"https://ens.domains\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">ENS\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\"> \u003c/strong>— for a more secure Web 3.0\u003c/li>\u003c/ul>\u003cp id=\"d1f6\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">While we wait for other dApps to come onto the scene, we are still testing these that we have. \u003cstrong class=\"ir hi\">We are also working on a knowledge base where you will be able to see all the frameworks, toolkits, wikis, stacks and challenges that our sponsors are putting together for you to try to win their prizes. In our next post, Helena, our PR hero will be introing some of our sponsors, while we build together the ultimate resource library for our most respected hackers.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"38ae\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is it iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">ETHBerlin stands strong: we think that dApps are the future, so we’ll do whatever it takes to push adoption, and inspire you to build more of them. There is room for all. Stay tuned for more integrations into the ETHBerlin dApp roster, and the knowledge base. We know this is quite a lot of information, but seeing your applications, we know you can take it, challenge us and contribute to switching the paradigms.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"bb79\" class=\"kd ke hh bd kf kg kh ki kj kk kl km kn ko kp kq kr ks kt ku kv kw kx ky kz la bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"ak\">BUIDL HARD OR GO HOME.\u003c/strong>\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"a8fb\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ip iq hh ir b is lb iu iv iw lc iy iz ja ld jc jd je le jg jh ji lf jk jl jm ha bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cem class=\"jn\">You’ve got a working dApp? Do you think there is room for it to be used for something at our event? 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