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So here is your \"official\" welcome with sprinkles of DONUTs on top and a helpful starter guide to get you vibing in the community and earning some sweet, sweet DONUTs while enjoying this amazing community!\n\n# 🍩 What are DONUTs?\n\nDONUT = **Decentralized Ownership Network Utility Token**\n\nIt is a community points on r/ETHtrader that you can buy, earn, tip and even trade. You will see them next to your username after registering. They are available in Arbitrum One, Ethereum and Gnosis Chain (discontinued, we migrated to Arbitrum One long time ago).\n\nI dont want to be so boring so you can find more information on Coingecko and in the sidebar of this community\n\nhttps://preview.redd.it/gvyp2cuhsg2f1.png?width=308&format=png&auto=webp&s=8cf9c3cd8c397f0318d10c481d08950cff3112b3\n\nMore info: [https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/donut](https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/donut)\n\n# 🔑 Register to Earn DONUTs\n\nDo you want to start earning DONUTs and become part of this great community? First step is registering your wallet address:\n\n !register \u003cyour wallet address>\n\n⬆️ Just paste this as a comment anywhere in the sub (replace with your actual Ethereum/Arbitrum One address, they are the same) and you will be set to earn DONUTs based on the tips you get, we are generous here, wink wink.\n\n# 🍰 How Do I Earn DONUTs?\n\nQuite simple:\n\n* Be active.\n* Write meaningful posts or comments so people are more interested in tipping you. Don't be afraid 😀\n* Focus on Ethereum, Layer 2s like Arbitrum, Base, Optimism, ZkSync, Polygon, etc, and of course, DONUTs!\n* Join the **Daily General Discussion (DGD)** pinned under \"Hot\" every day and vibe with the community.\n\n# 🎁 Tipping Others\n\nWanna share the DONUT love?\n\nJust reply with:\n\n`!tip \u003camount>`\n\nThe amount will be deducted from your next distribution but don't worry even if you end with a negative amount something that I have never seen you don't have to pay them 🤣\n\n# 💸 Pay2Post\n\nThe community has a \"fee\" when making post to control spam that is reduced from every distribution and there are some rules like different multipliers depending the type of post but this is something you can keep learning while being active, etc. Feel free to ask for more information to any user but in summary\n\n* **Main page post** = 250 DONUTs deducted *from your next distribution*\n* **Posting comments = FREE**\n\nMost of the time, a decent post easily earns those 250 DONUTs back and more.\n\n# 💼 How to Add DONUTs to MetaMask\n\n# This depends on the Network but if I am not wrong currently MetaMask will show your DONUT with any other interaction but just in case I am going to explain in a generic way how to add them\n\n* Go to [https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/donut](https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/donut)\n* Click the MetaMask fox under \"Contracts\"\n* Make sure you're on the correct network and it will add it to MetaMask. In case of Arbitrum One you would have to copy it and manually add it in MetaMask.\n\n# 🏪 How to Buy DONUT\n\nEven thought the team is working hard to get DONUT listed in a CEX (DONUT had an audit to improve the chances to be listed) we still are only on DEX. To buy DONUT is quite simple and depends on the Network:\n\n* For Ethereum Network you can buy them at Uniswap [https://app.uniswap.org/swap?outputCurrency=0xC0F9bD5Fa5698B6505F643900FFA515Ea5dF54A9](https://app.uniswap.org/swap?outputCurrency=0xC0F9bD5Fa5698B6505F643900FFA515Ea5dF54A9)\n* For Arbitrum One you can buy them at Sushiswap: [https://www.sushi.com/arbitrum/swap?token0=NATIVE&token1=0xF42e2B8bc2aF8B110b65be98dB1321B1ab8D44f5](https://www.sushi.com/arbitrum/swap?token0=NATIVE&token1=0xF42e2B8bc2aF8B110b65be98dB1321B1ab8D44f5)\n\nBoth very reputable DEX.\n\n# 📚 Want to Learn More?\n\nCheck the community sidebar, you will find there all the information you need about the community but also dont be scared and ask anything in the daily anything related to the community or Ethereum ecosystem. We all will help you to learn and make the \"learning curve\" smoother!\n\nStay crispy - **A proud DONUT holder 🍩**\n\nhttps://preview.redd.it/k72e0wclsg2f1.png?width=810&format=png&auto=webp&s=ac55731023f8964e868460e19baf45d04dc991f6\n\n\n\t\t\t\n\n\\[AutoMod\\] Donut","first":1747980304862,"html":"\u003cp>Hey there \u003ca href=\"/r/ETHtrader\">r/ETHtrader\u003c/a> explorers!\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>I have noticed a wave of new faces in the last few weeks and that is awesome! So here is your "official" welcome with sprinkles of DONUTs on top and a helpful starter guide to get you vibing in the community and earning some sweet, sweet DONUTs while enjoying this amazing community!\u003c/p>\n\n\u003ch1>🍩 What are DONUTs?\u003c/h1>\n\n\u003cp>DONUT = \u003cstrong>Decentralized Ownership Network Utility Token\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>It is a community points on \u003ca href=\"/r/ETHtrader\">r/ETHtrader\u003c/a> that you can buy, earn, tip and even trade. You will see them next to your username after registering. They are available in Arbitrum One, Ethereum and Gnosis Chain (discontinued, we migrated to Arbitrum One long time ago).\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>I dont want to be so boring so you can find more information on Coingecko and in the sidebar of this community\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://preview.redd.it/gvyp2cuhsg2f1.png?width=308&format=png&auto=webp&s=8cf9c3cd8c397f0318d10c481d08950cff3112b3\">https://preview.redd.it/gvyp2cuhsg2f1.png?width=308&format=png&auto=webp&s=8cf9c3cd8c397f0318d10c481d08950cff3112b3\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>More info: \u003ca href=\"https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/donut\">https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/donut\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003ch1>🔑 Register to Earn DONUTs\u003c/h1>\n\n\u003cp>Do you want to start earning DONUTs and become part of this great community? 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As more and more money is poured into this project, those who've already paid for tokens are seeing their percentage share of the total token supply shrink. If this is causing you distress, take a deep breath. \n\nThe argument for this situation being beneficial is two fold. \n\nFirstly, (and most importantly) while your share of The DAO \"pie\" is decreasing, the size of the pie is growing in *direct* proportion to that. Imagine you have 10 eth in a DAO and you're the only member. You have 100% worth 10 eth. Now imagine another person invests 10 eth. You now have 50% of the DAO worth 10 eth. 98 more people do the same? You now have 1% worth...10 eth.\n\nWhich brings us to the second important thing you should consider. When it comes to a DAO of this nature, a pie is better when bigger. Beyond your share of the pie remaining static in value, there is increased value to you individually if the DAO has more money to invest into proposals. 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1-.04-.26c-.06-.23-.1-.46-.1-.7v.01z\" fill=\"#A8A8A8\">\u003c/path>\u003c/svg>\u003c/span>\u003c/button>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003cdiv class=\"bl l\">\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv class=\"bk\" aria-hidden=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"11\" aria-labelledby=\"11\">\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003c/header>\u003cspan class=\"l\">\u003c/span>\u003csection>\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv class=\"es gk gl gm gn go\">\u003c/div>\u003cdiv class=\"gp gq gr gs gt\">\u003cdiv class=\"\">\u003ch1 id=\"0f25\" class=\"pw-post-title gu gv gw bd gx gy gz ha hb hc hd he hf hg hh hi hj hk hl hm hn ho hp hq hr hs bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Etherplay : A Provably Fair Skill Game Platform Using Ethereum\u003c/h1>\u003c/div>\u003cp id=\"6629\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">We did not made the headlines yet and we thought it is time to explain what \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"http://etherplay.io/\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Etherplay\u003c/a> is all about. This blog post will hopefully give you a general idea of what it is. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to leave comments.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"bdb8\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">What is Etherplay?\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"b172\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Before everything else, Etherplay is a game platform. It aims at providing fun games for players all over the world. Our team has always had a passion for games. We love playing them and more importantly we love making them. This is our opportunity to do it for the long term and for the enjoyment of everybody.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"6c80\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Coming from the casual “free to play” game industry it was a bit disappointing to see so many cool game ideas turn into half baked game with the promise of infinite upgrades. As a game designer you needed to design a playable game with holes in it so that paying players could get a more complete game. But this often resulted in games that could never be made whole. Of course not every games suffered from it and there are success stories but the general rules influenced them in one way or another. We wanted a different path.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"cbe7\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Our first childhood video games we played were games from the arcade machines at our local fair and this is the model that inspired us. We wanted to bring back that magic to a global scale where the highscore list becomes worldwide and top players get rewarded.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"248e\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">In a similar way that arcade machines require you to put your money for every play, Etherplay require the player to pay a small fee to play a game session. The difference is that the fee get added to a jackpot that is shared among the players with the top scores.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"3d84\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Competitions are organized automatically and run for a limited time. At the end of each competition the players with the top score get a share of the jackpot. To allow us to improve and make new games, we take a percentage of that jackpot. For now it is 25% (a standard for skill game platform) and we will never go bigger that this.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"3662\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ethereum\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"5787\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">One thing that set Etherplay apart from other similar game platform is that we are using an awesome new technology called \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://ethereum.org/\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Ethereum\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"ae05\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">At the beginning we were planning to use traditional technology and currencies. But after discovering Ethereum, it was clear that using that technology will bring us and our players many advantages.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"ef78\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ethereum for those we do not know is both a technology where the name come from and a social community based around that technology. It is a set of computer that cooperate to ensure honest execution of a set of rules. Some describe it as an attempt to build a world’s computer.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"ed3b\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">For Etherplay it allows us to build a transparent and verifiable system. You can be sure that players are all treated equals and if we at Etherplay were trying to bend the rules, this would be visible to the whole world. More on that later.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"2487\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Of course, Ethereum also introduces friction. Most of the world is still at odd with public/private key system and the idea of Ethereum is still far from widespread. We are thus relying on the brave crypto users to pave the way for the other future players.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"b409\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">How does it work?\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"ed27\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Etherplay requires the use of an ethereum client like \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://metamask.io/\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">metamask\u003c/a> or \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">mist\u003c/a>. The client allows the player to interact with the Ethereum blockchain which require signing and broadcasting transaction to the available ethereum nodes on the internet. Each of these transactions takes time as they need to be “mined” by special nodes that get rewarded by “mining” transactions into so called “blocks”. Part of the reward the “miners” get is the mandatory transaction fee that is part of every transaction.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"5050\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Etherplay requires at max 2 ethereum transactions per play. The first and mandatory transaction is for starting a new game. The player pays the gas required for Ethereum plus a fee that will be added to the total jackpot. The seed and time of play are recorded on the ethereum blockchain and used later to verify the player game session.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"bb44\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The second transaction that happen at the end of the game is only necessary to save the score if the score is better than the player’s previous score and worthy enough to be among the top. Only a gas cost will be necessary here. This transaction needs to be executed right away after finishing the game because we do not allow players to submit their score too long after the end of the game to avoid the possibility of cheating.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"dce3\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Since transaction takes time to be confirmed it is possible that when it get mined, it is too late. In that case the game session becomes invalid. We decided to let the player play right away anyway and cancel the session if that happens. The alternative was to make the players wait until the transaction get mined before starting to play but this is can be too long to wait. We are thinking to offer the choice in a latter version of our platform if the rate of failed start is too high.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"7c5f\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Why Ethereum?\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"6548\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">We discovered Ethereum in March and it blew our mind so much that anything we thought had to relate to Ethereum :) It turned out that for our use case ( a skill game platform) it was the perfect match.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"7832\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Reduced Complexity And Risk\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"eb62\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ethereum reduce complexity by a great extent making our system safe and secure. By using it, we do not need to manage user accounts, nor their money. All of it is managed by the smart contract and consensus network that Ethereum provides. Of course, Ethereum brings its own challenge but being able to deal with player’s money without the risk of screwing up is a real boon. Players can feel confident about their security. With Ethereum there is no need for Etherplay to even have players’ accounts in its system.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"880a\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">This has allowed us to have a very simple backend. Our backend has 2 part, the user facing one is built in go using Google App Engine and serves the web pages and game. The other is the verifier built in javascript running on Node.js that probe the ethereum blockchain regularly to verify players’ submissions by replaying their game. It talks to the other part to update the verified scores. All of this is less than 3000 lines of code.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"1c5b\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The community\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"1d6f\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Ethereum community is really great and helped us boostrap our platform. We got lots of good feedback from our 2 successful beta. For the last one we provided a reward in real ether. This has given information on the soundness of our system and smart contract. We are confident that we are ready for release. Thanks to all who participated! We hope that our mainnet release will meet with even more enthusiasm.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"ad77\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Micro transactions and Automatism\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"ddf6\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ethereum blockchain with its relatively low gas cost (we would love it to be even smaller :) allow our players to play games for a very small fee. This is an improvement over other skill game platform which use traditional currencies as they require players to pay a bigger sum upfront that is then stored on their server. With Etherplay we do not need to make our players put more money than needed to play our games.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"813d\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ethereum also allows Etherplay to pays the players automatically. This is a significant advantage over other skill game platform where players are required to have a minimum amount to withdraw to cover the cost of traditional currencies transaction.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"ef8e\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Provably Fair\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"311d\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ethereum allows Etherplay platform to be transparent and verifiable. Every transactions is verifiable and traceable on the ethereum network. Since our system records all the data, it is possible to verify if the correct players got the reward.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"d599\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">When the player start the game, the time and the seed get recorded on the blockchain. Upon finishing with a highscore the player submit the proof (consisting of player’s inputs) and create a transaction to ethereum with the proof’s hash alongside the score and duration of the game. If the time taken to submit does not exceed by much the time taken to play the game, that transaction will be accepted and the proof hash alongside the score will be saved on the blockchain.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"e1bc\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">At the end of the competition, our verifier sort the player’s submission based on their score and verify them one by one. If the score or duration do not match the score is rejected and the next submission is considered. At the end of the process, we get the list of the winners and submit a special “rewardWinners” transaction with that list as input. These winners get the reward based on the jackpot and the parameters set at the beginning of the competition. This is also when we got our part of the jackpot (we cannot get it before).\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"dca0\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">While Etherplay could give a list of its own accounts to the “rewardWinners” transaction in order to get all the ether it would be visible to everybody since every submission can be replayed and inspected. As such our system can be proven to be valid at each competition. This is a unique feature of our skill game platform.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"b7ba\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Conclusion\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"102c\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">We hope that this blog post has given you a general idea of what Etherplay is. We also hope it got you interested in playing. Stay tuned, we plan to release our platform on the mainnet next week on \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"http://etherplay.io\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http://etherplay.io\u003c/a> ! 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The alpha continue with 127 players and 1206 planets. You can still join if you want, Just head to our discord POKT Network planets As mentioned in one of our previous post, there are 2 types of rewards (for a total of 5000$ worth) in the alpha. 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This is an improvement over other skill game platform which use traditional currencies as they require players to pay a bigger sum upfront that is then stored on their server. With Etherplay we do not need to make our players put more money than needed to play our games.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:2e9eb6fbf788_28\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"2e9eb6fbf788_28\",\"name\":\"813d\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Ethereum also allows Etherplay to pays the players automatically. 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Since our system records all the data, it is possible to verify if the correct players got the reward.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:2e9eb6fbf788_31\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"2e9eb6fbf788_31\",\"name\":\"d599\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"When the player start the game, the time and the seed get recorded on the blockchain. Upon finishing with a highscore the player submit the proof (consisting of player’s inputs) and create a transaction to ethereum with the proof’s hash alongside the score and duration of the game. If the time taken to submit does not exceed by much the time taken to play the game, that transaction will be accepted and the proof hash alongside the score will be saved on the blockchain.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:2e9eb6fbf788_32\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"2e9eb6fbf788_32\",\"name\":\"e1bc\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"At the end of the competition, our verifier sort the player’s submission based on their score and verify them one by one. If the score or duration do not match the score is rejected and the next submission is considered. At the end of the process, we get the list of the winners and submit a special “rewardWinners” transaction with that list as input. These winners get the reward based on the jackpot and the parameters set at the beginning of the competition. This is also when we got our part of the jackpot (we cannot get it before).\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:2e9eb6fbf788_33\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"2e9eb6fbf788_33\",\"name\":\"dca0\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"While Etherplay could give a list of its own accounts to the “rewardWinners” transaction in order to get all the ether it would be visible to everybody since every submission can be replayed and inspected. As such our system can be proven to be valid at each competition. This is a unique feature of our skill game platform.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:2e9eb6fbf788_34\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"2e9eb6fbf788_34\",\"name\":\"b7ba\",\"type\":\"H3\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Conclusion\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:2e9eb6fbf788_35\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"2e9eb6fbf788_35\",\"name\":\"102c\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"We hope that this blog post has given you a general idea of what Etherplay is. We also hope it got you interested in playing. Stay tuned, we plan to release our platform on the mainnet next week on http:\\u002F\\u002Fetherplay.io ! 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This blog post will hopefully give you a general idea of what it is. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to leave comments.What is Etherplay?Before everything else, Etherplay is a game platform. It aims at providing fun games for players all over the world. Our team has always had a passion for games. We love playing them and more importantly we love making them. This is our opportunity to do it for the long term and for the enjoyment of everybody.Coming from the casual “free to play” game industry it was a bit disappointing to see so many cool game ideas turn into half baked game with the promise of infinite upgrades. As a game designer you needed to design a playable game with holes in it so that paying players could get a more complete game. But this often resulted in games that could never be made whole. Of course not every games suffered from it and there are success stories but the general rules influenced them in one way or another. We wanted a different path.Our first childhood video games we played were games from the arcade machines at our local fair and this is the model that inspired us. We wanted to bring back that magic to a global scale where the highscore list becomes worldwide and top players get rewarded.In a similar way that arcade machines require you to put your money for every play, Etherplay require the player to pay a small fee to play a game session. The difference is that the fee get added to a jackpot that is shared among the players with the top scores.Competitions are organized automatically and run for a limited time. At the end of each competition the players with the top score get a share of the jackpot. To allow us to improve and make new games, we take a percentage of that jackpot. For now it is 25% (a standard for skill game platform) and we will never go bigger that this.EthereumOne thing that set Etherplay apart from other similar game platform is that we are using an awesome new technology called Ethereum.At the beginning we were planning to use traditional technology and currencies. But after discovering Ethereum, it was clear that using that technology will bring us and our players many advantages.Ethereum for those we do not know is both a technology where the name come from and a social community based around that technology. It is a set of computer that cooperate to ensure honest execution of a set of rules. Some describe it as an attempt to build a world’s computer.For Etherplay it allows us to build a transparent and verifiable system. You can be sure that players are all treated equals and if we at Etherplay were trying to bend the rules, this would be visible to the whole world. More on that later.Of course, Ethereum also introduces friction. Most of the world is still at odd with public/private key system and the idea of Ethereum is still far from widespread. We are thus relying on the brave crypto users to pave the way for the other future players.How does it work?Etherplay requires the use of an ethereum client like metamask or mist. The client allows the player to interact with the Ethereum blockchain which require signing and broadcasting transaction to the available ethereum nodes on the internet. Each of these transactions takes time as they need to be “mined” by special nodes that get rewarded by “mining” transactions into so called “blocks”. Part of the reward the “miners” get is the mandatory transaction fee that is part of every transaction.Etherplay requires at max 2 ethereum transactions per play. The first and mandatory transaction is for starting a new game. The player pays the gas required for Ethereum plus a fee that will be added to the total jackpot. The seed and time of play are recorded on the ethereum blockchain and used later to verify the player game session.The second transaction that happen at the end of the game is only necessary to save the score if the score is better than the player’s previous score and worthy enough to be among the top. Only a gas cost will be necessary here. This transaction needs to be executed right away after finishing the game because we do not allow players to submit their score too long after the end of the game to avoid the possibility of cheating.Since transaction takes time to be confirmed it is possible that when it get mined, it is too late. In that case the game session becomes invalid. We decided to let the player play right away anyway and cancel the session if that happens. The alternative was to make the players wait until the transaction get mined before starting to play but this is can be too long to wait. We are thinking to offer the choice in a latter version of our platform if the rate of failed start is too high.Why Ethereum?We discovered Ethereum in March and it blew our mind so much that anything we thought had to relate to Ethereum :) It turned out that for our use case ( a skill game platform) it was the perfect match.Reduced Complexity And RiskEthereum reduce complexity by a great extent making our system safe and secure. By using it, we do not need to manage user accounts, nor their money. All of it is managed by the smart contract and consensus network that Ethereum provides. Of course, Ethereum brings its own challenge but being able to deal with player’s money without the risk of screwing up is a real boon. Players can feel confident about their security. With Ethereum there is no need for Etherplay to even have players’ accounts in its system.This has allowed us to have a very simple backend. Our backend has 2 part, the user facing one is built in go using Google App Engine and serves the web pages and game. The other is the verifier built in javascript running on Node.js that probe the ethereum blockchain regularly to verify players’ submissions by replaying their game. It talks to the other part to update the verified scores. All of this is less than 3000 lines of code.The communityThe Ethereum community is really great and helped us boostrap our platform. We got lots of good feedback from our 2 successful beta. For the last one we provided a reward in real ether. This has given information on the soundness of our system and smart contract. We are confident that we are ready for release. Thanks to all who participated! We hope that our mainnet release will meet with even more enthusiasm.Micro transactions and AutomatismEthereum blockchain with its relatively low gas cost (we would love it to be even smaller :) allow our players to play games for a very small fee. This is an improvement over other skill game platform which use traditional currencies as they require players to pay a bigger sum upfront that is then stored on their server. With Etherplay we do not need to make our players put more money than needed to play our games.Ethereum also allows Etherplay to pays the players automatically. This is a significant advantage over other skill game platform where players are required to have a minimum amount to withdraw to cover the cost of traditional currencies transaction.Provably FairEthereum allows Etherplay platform to be transparent and verifiable. Every transactions is verifiable and traceable on the ethereum network. Since our system records all the data, it is possible to verify if the correct players got the reward.When the player start the game, the time and the seed get recorded on the blockchain. Upon finishing with a highscore the player submit the proof (consisting of player’s inputs) and create a transaction to ethereum with the proof’s hash alongside the score and duration of the game. If the time taken to submit does not exceed by much the time taken to play the game, that transaction will be accepted and the proof hash alongside the score will be saved on the blockchain.At the end of the competition, our verifier sort the player’s submission based on their score and verify them one by one. If the score or duration do not match the score is rejected and the next submission is considered. At the end of the process, we get the list of the winners and submit a special “rewardWinners” transaction with that list as input. These winners get the reward based on the jackpot and the parameters set at the beginning of the competition. This is also when we got our part of the jackpot (we cannot get it before).While Etherplay could give a list of its own accounts to the “rewardWinners” transaction in order to get all the ether it would be visible to everybody since every submission can be replayed and inspected. As such our system can be proven to be valid at each competition. This is a unique feature of our skill game platform.ConclusionWe hope that this blog post has given you a general idea of what Etherplay is. We also hope it got you interested in playing. Stay tuned, we plan to release our platform on the mainnet next week on http://etherplay.io ! Here is a pick at what is coming :Thanks for reading,The Etherplay team","first":1680112916171,"html":"\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv class=\"es gk gl gm gn go\">\u003c/div>\u003cdiv class=\"gp gq gr gs gt\">\u003cdiv class=\"\">\u003ch1 id=\"0f25\" class=\"pw-post-title gu gv gw bd gx gy gz ha hb hc hd he hf hg hh hi hj hk hl hm hn ho hp hq hr hs bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Etherplay : A Provably Fair Skill Game Platform Using Ethereum\u003c/h1>\u003c/div>\u003cp id=\"6629\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">We did not made the headlines yet and we thought it is time to explain what \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"http://etherplay.io/\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Etherplay\u003c/a> is all about. This blog post will hopefully give you a general idea of what it is. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to leave comments.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"bdb8\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">What is Etherplay?\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"b172\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Before everything else, Etherplay is a game platform. It aims at providing fun games for players all over the world. Our team has always had a passion for games. We love playing them and more importantly we love making them. This is our opportunity to do it for the long term and for the enjoyment of everybody.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"6c80\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Coming from the casual “free to play” game industry it was a bit disappointing to see so many cool game ideas turn into half baked game with the promise of infinite upgrades. As a game designer you needed to design a playable game with holes in it so that paying players could get a more complete game. But this often resulted in games that could never be made whole. Of course not every games suffered from it and there are success stories but the general rules influenced them in one way or another. We wanted a different path.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"cbe7\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Our first childhood video games we played were games from the arcade machines at our local fair and this is the model that inspired us. We wanted to bring back that magic to a global scale where the highscore list becomes worldwide and top players get rewarded.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"248e\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">In a similar way that arcade machines require you to put your money for every play, Etherplay require the player to pay a small fee to play a game session. The difference is that the fee get added to a jackpot that is shared among the players with the top scores.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"3d84\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Competitions are organized automatically and run for a limited time. At the end of each competition the players with the top score get a share of the jackpot. To allow us to improve and make new games, we take a percentage of that jackpot. For now it is 25% (a standard for skill game platform) and we will never go bigger that this.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"3662\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ethereum\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"5787\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">One thing that set Etherplay apart from other similar game platform is that we are using an awesome new technology called \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://ethereum.org/\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Ethereum\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"ae05\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">At the beginning we were planning to use traditional technology and currencies. But after discovering Ethereum, it was clear that using that technology will bring us and our players many advantages.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"ef78\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ethereum for those we do not know is both a technology where the name come from and a social community based around that technology. It is a set of computer that cooperate to ensure honest execution of a set of rules. Some describe it as an attempt to build a world’s computer.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"ed3b\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">For Etherplay it allows us to build a transparent and verifiable system. You can be sure that players are all treated equals and if we at Etherplay were trying to bend the rules, this would be visible to the whole world. More on that later.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"2487\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Of course, Ethereum also introduces friction. Most of the world is still at odd with public/private key system and the idea of Ethereum is still far from widespread. We are thus relying on the brave crypto users to pave the way for the other future players.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"b409\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">How does it work?\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"ed27\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Etherplay requires the use of an ethereum client like \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://metamask.io/\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">metamask\u003c/a> or \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://github.com/ethereum/mist/releases\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">mist\u003c/a>. The client allows the player to interact with the Ethereum blockchain which require signing and broadcasting transaction to the available ethereum nodes on the internet. Each of these transactions takes time as they need to be “mined” by special nodes that get rewarded by “mining” transactions into so called “blocks”. Part of the reward the “miners” get is the mandatory transaction fee that is part of every transaction.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"5050\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Etherplay requires at max 2 ethereum transactions per play. The first and mandatory transaction is for starting a new game. The player pays the gas required for Ethereum plus a fee that will be added to the total jackpot. The seed and time of play are recorded on the ethereum blockchain and used later to verify the player game session.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"bb44\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The second transaction that happen at the end of the game is only necessary to save the score if the score is better than the player’s previous score and worthy enough to be among the top. Only a gas cost will be necessary here. This transaction needs to be executed right away after finishing the game because we do not allow players to submit their score too long after the end of the game to avoid the possibility of cheating.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"dce3\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Since transaction takes time to be confirmed it is possible that when it get mined, it is too late. In that case the game session becomes invalid. We decided to let the player play right away anyway and cancel the session if that happens. The alternative was to make the players wait until the transaction get mined before starting to play but this is can be too long to wait. We are thinking to offer the choice in a latter version of our platform if the rate of failed start is too high.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"7c5f\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Why Ethereum?\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"6548\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">We discovered Ethereum in March and it blew our mind so much that anything we thought had to relate to Ethereum :) It turned out that for our use case ( a skill game platform) it was the perfect match.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"7832\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Reduced Complexity And Risk\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"eb62\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ethereum reduce complexity by a great extent making our system safe and secure. By using it, we do not need to manage user accounts, nor their money. All of it is managed by the smart contract and consensus network that Ethereum provides. Of course, Ethereum brings its own challenge but being able to deal with player’s money without the risk of screwing up is a real boon. Players can feel confident about their security. With Ethereum there is no need for Etherplay to even have players’ accounts in its system.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"880a\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">This has allowed us to have a very simple backend. Our backend has 2 part, the user facing one is built in go using Google App Engine and serves the web pages and game. The other is the verifier built in javascript running on Node.js that probe the ethereum blockchain regularly to verify players’ submissions by replaying their game. It talks to the other part to update the verified scores. All of this is less than 3000 lines of code.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"1c5b\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The community\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"1d6f\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Ethereum community is really great and helped us boostrap our platform. We got lots of good feedback from our 2 successful beta. For the last one we provided a reward in real ether. This has given information on the soundness of our system and smart contract. We are confident that we are ready for release. Thanks to all who participated! We hope that our mainnet release will meet with even more enthusiasm.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"ad77\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Micro transactions and Automatism\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"ddf6\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ethereum blockchain with its relatively low gas cost (we would love it to be even smaller :) allow our players to play games for a very small fee. This is an improvement over other skill game platform which use traditional currencies as they require players to pay a bigger sum upfront that is then stored on their server. With Etherplay we do not need to make our players put more money than needed to play our games.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"813d\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ethereum also allows Etherplay to pays the players automatically. This is a significant advantage over other skill game platform where players are required to have a minimum amount to withdraw to cover the cost of traditional currencies transaction.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"ef8e\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Provably Fair\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"311d\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Ethereum allows Etherplay platform to be transparent and verifiable. Every transactions is verifiable and traceable on the ethereum network. Since our system records all the data, it is possible to verify if the correct players got the reward.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"d599\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">When the player start the game, the time and the seed get recorded on the blockchain. Upon finishing with a highscore the player submit the proof (consisting of player’s inputs) and create a transaction to ethereum with the proof’s hash alongside the score and duration of the game. If the time taken to submit does not exceed by much the time taken to play the game, that transaction will be accepted and the proof hash alongside the score will be saved on the blockchain.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"e1bc\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">At the end of the competition, our verifier sort the player’s submission based on their score and verify them one by one. If the score or duration do not match the score is rejected and the next submission is considered. At the end of the process, we get the list of the winners and submit a special “rewardWinners” transaction with that list as input. These winners get the reward based on the jackpot and the parameters set at the beginning of the competition. This is also when we got our part of the jackpot (we cannot get it before).\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"dca0\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">While Etherplay could give a list of its own accounts to the “rewardWinners” transaction in order to get all the ether it would be visible to everybody since every submission can be replayed and inspected. As such our system can be proven to be valid at each competition. This is a unique feature of our skill game platform.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"b7ba\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Conclusion\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"102c\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw jq hy hz ia jr ic id ie js ig ih ii jt ik il im ju io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">We hope that this blog post has given you a general idea of what Etherplay is. We also hope it got you interested in playing. Stay tuned, we plan to release our platform on the mainnet next week on \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"http://etherplay.io\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http://etherplay.io\u003c/a> ! Here is a pick at what is coming :\u003c/p>\u003cfigure class=\"jw jx jy jz ek ka dy dz paragraph-image\">\u003cdiv class=\"dy dz jv\">\u003cpicture>\u003csource srcset=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:640/1*QraxzOhZS4B7xqAqpaIEeA.gif 640w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/1*QraxzOhZS4B7xqAqpaIEeA.gif 720w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:750/1*QraxzOhZS4B7xqAqpaIEeA.gif 750w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:786/1*QraxzOhZS4B7xqAqpaIEeA.gif 786w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:828/1*QraxzOhZS4B7xqAqpaIEeA.gif 828w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1100/1*QraxzOhZS4B7xqAqpaIEeA.gif 1100w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1000/1*QraxzOhZS4B7xqAqpaIEeA.gif 1000w\" sizes=\"(min-resolution: 4dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 4) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (min-resolution: 3dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 67vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 3) and (max-width: 700px) 65vw, (min-resolution: 2.5dppx) and (max-width: 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(-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 3) and (max-width: 700px) 65vw, (min-resolution: 2.5dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2.5) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (min-resolution: 2dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 500px\">\u003cimg alt=\"\" class=\"bf kb kc c\" width=\"500\" height=\"376\" loading=\"lazy\" role=\"presentation\" src=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:500/1*QraxzOhZS4B7xqAqpaIEeA.gif\">\u003c/picture>\u003c/div>\u003c/figure>\u003cp id=\"0bac\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Thanks for reading,\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"90f6\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">The Etherplay 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768px){.css-1kd73y8{-webkit-padding-start:var(--chakra-space-10);padding-inline-start:var(--chakra-space-10);-webkit-padding-end:var(--chakra-space-10);padding-inline-end:var(--chakra-space-10);padding-top:var(--chakra-space-10);padding-bottom:var(--chakra-space-10);}}\u003c/style>\u003cdiv class=\"chakra-stack css-1kd73y8\">\u003carticle>\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css gi02ar\">.css-gi02ar{margin-top:var(--chakra-space-7);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-7);line-height:1.5;}.css-gi02ar:first-of-type{margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-7);}\u003c/style>\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In the \u003c!-- -->\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css ug8vf0\">.css-ug8vf0{transition-property:var(--chakra-transition-property-common);transition-duration:var(--chakra-transition-duration-fast);transition-timing-function:var(--chakra-transition-easing-ease-out);cursor:pointer;-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;outline:2px solid 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We ended with the concept of \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">stateless ethereum\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>, and left a more detailed examination of the stateless client for this post.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">Stateless\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> is the new direction of Eth 1.x research, so we're going to do a pretty deep dive and get a real sense of the challenges and possibilities that are expected on the road ahead. For those that want to dive even deeper, I'll do my best to link to more verbose resources whenever possible.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css 1w54o5f\">.css-1w54o5f{font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-heading);font-weight:var(--chakra-fontWeights-bold);font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-3xl);line-height:1.33;margin-top:var(--chakra-space-12);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-4);text-align:start;}@media screen and (min-width: 360px){.css-1w54o5f{line-height:1.2;}}@media screen and (min-width: 768px){.css-1w54o5f{font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-4xl);margin-top:var(--chakra-space-1);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-7);}}\u003c/style>\u003ch2 class=\"chakra-heading css-1w54o5f\" id=\"the-state-of-stateless-ethereum\">The State of Stateless Ethereum\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h2>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">To see where we're going, we must first understand where we are with the concept of 'state'. When we say 'state', it's in the sense of "a state of affairs".\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The complete ‘state’ of Ethereum describes the current status of all accounts and balances, as well as the collective memories of all smart contracts deployed and running in the EVM. Every finalized block in the chain has one and only one state, which is agreed upon by all participants in the network. That state is changed and updated with each new block that is added to the chain.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In the context of Eth 1.x research, it's important not just to know what state \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">is\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>, but \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">how it's represented\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> in both the protocol (as defined in the yellow paper), and in most client implementations (e.g. geth, parity, trinity, besu, etc.).\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css 145upk7\">.css-145upk7{font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-heading);font-weight:var(--chakra-fontWeights-bold);font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-xl);line-height:1.33;margin-top:var(--chakra-space-4);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-4);}@media screen and (min-width: 360px){.css-145upk7{line-height:1.2;}}@media screen and (min-width: 768px){.css-145upk7{font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-2xl);margin-top:var(--chakra-space-1);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-5);}}\u003c/style>\u003ch3 class=\"chakra-heading css-145upk7\" id=\"give-it-a-trie\">Give it a trie\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h3>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The data structure used in Ethereum is called a Merkle-Patricia Trie. Fun fact: 'Trie' is originally taken from the word 'retrieval', but most people pronounce it as 'try' to distinguish it from 'tree' when speaking. But I digress. What we need to know about Merkle-Patricia Tries is as follows:\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">At one end of the trie, there are all of the particular pieces of data that describe state (value nodes). This could be a particular account's balance, or a variable stored in a smart contract (such as the total supply of an ERC-20 token). In the middle are \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">branch nodes\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>, which link all of the values together through hashing. A branch node is an array containing the hashes of its child nodes, and each branch node is subsequently hashed and put into the array of its parent node. This successive hashing eventually arrives at a single state root node on the other end of the trie.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css hw6q2r\">.css-hw6q2r{display:block;-webkit-margin-start:auto;margin-inline-start:auto;-webkit-margin-end:auto;margin-inline-end:auto;}\u003c/style>\u003cimg alt=\"Radix\" src=\"/images/posts/radix.png\" class=\"chakra-image css-hw6q2r\"/>\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In the simplified diagram above, we can see each value, as well as the \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">path\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> that describes how to get to that value. For example, to get to V-2, we traverse the path 1,3,3,4. Similarly, V-3 can be reached by traversing the path 3,2,3,3. Note that paths in this example are always 4 characters in length, and that there is often only one path to take to reach a value.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">This structure has the important property of being deterministic and cryptographically verifiable: The only way to generate a state root is by computing it from each individual piece of the state, and two states that are identical can be easily proven so by comparing the root hash and the hashes that led to it (\u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">a Merkle proof\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>). Conversely, there is no way to create two different states with the same root hash, and any attempt to modify state with different values will result in a different state root hash.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Ethereum optimizes the trie structure by introducing a few new node types that improve efficiency: extension nodes and leaf nodes. These encode parts of the \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">path\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> into nodes so that the trie is more compact.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">\u003cimg alt=\"Patricia\" src=\"/images/posts/patricia.png\" class=\"chakra-image css-hw6q2r\"/>\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In this modified Merkle-Patricia trie structure, each node will lead to a choice between multiple next nodes, a compressed part of a path that subsequent nodes share, or values (prepended by the rest of their path, if necessary). It's the same data and the same organization, but this trie only needs 9 nodes instead of 18. This \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">seems\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> more efficient, but with the benefit of hindsight, isn't actually optimal. We'll explore why in the next section.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">To arrive at a particular part of state (such as an account's current balance of Ether), one needs to start at the state root and crawl along the trie from node to node until the desired value is reached. At each node, characters in the \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">path\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> are used to decide which next node to travel to, like a \u003c!-- -->\u003ca target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"chakra-link css-ug8vf0\" href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing\">divining rod\u003c!-- -->\u003c/a>, but for navigating hashed data structures.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In the 'real' version used by Ethereum, \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">paths\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> are the hashes of an address 64 characters (256 bits) in length, and \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">values\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> are \u003c!-- -->\u003ca target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"chakra-link css-ug8vf0\" href=\"https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/RLP\">RLP-encoded data\u003c!-- -->\u003c/a>. Branch nodes are arrays that contain 17 elements (sixteen for each of the possible hexadecimal characters, and one for a value), while leaf nodes and extension nodes contain 2 elements (one partial path and either a value or the hash of the next child node). The Ethereum wiki is likely the best place to \u003c!-- -->\u003ca target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"chakra-link css-ug8vf0\" href=\"https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/Patricia-Tree\">read more about this\u003c!-- -->\u003c/a>, or, if you would like to get way into the weeds, \u003c!-- -->\u003ca target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"chakra-link css-ug8vf0\" href=\"https://easythereentropy.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/understanding-the-ethereum-trie/\">this article\u003c!-- -->\u003c/a> has a great (but unfortunately deprecated) DIY trie exercise in Python to play with.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css 1u9mv6z\">.css-1u9mv6z{font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-heading);font-weight:var(--chakra-fontWeights-bold);font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-lg);line-height:1.33;margin-top:var(--chakra-space-4);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-4);}@media screen and (min-width: 360px){.css-1u9mv6z{line-height:1.2;}}@media screen and (min-width: 768px){.css-1u9mv6z{margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-7);}}\u003c/style>\u003ch4 class=\"chakra-heading css-1u9mv6z\" id=\"stick-it-in-a-database\">Stick it in a Database\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h4>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">At this point we should remind ourselves that the trie structure is just an abstract concept. It's a way of packing the totality of Ethereum state into one unified structure. That structure, however, then needs to be \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">implemented\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> in the code of the client, and stored on a disk (or a few thousand of them scattered around the globe). This means taking a multi-dimensional trie and stuffing it into an ordinary database, which understands only \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">[key, value]\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> pairs.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In most Ethereum clients (all except turbo-geth), the Merkle-Patricia Trie is implemented by creating a distinct \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">[key, value]\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> pair for each node, where the value is the node itself, and the key is the hash of that node.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">\u003cimg alt=\"DB-patricia\" src=\"/images/posts/DB-Patricia.png\" class=\"chakra-image css-hw6q2r\"/>\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The process of traversing the trie, then, is more or less the same as the theoretical process described earlier. To look up an account balance, we would start with the root hash, and look up its value in the database to get the first branch node. Using the first character of our hashed address, we find the hash of the first node. We look that hash up in the database, and get our second node. Using the next character of the hashed address, we find the hash of the third node. If we're lucky, we might find an extension or leaf node along the way, and not need to go through all 64 nibbles -- but eventually, we'll arrive at our desired account, and be able to retrieve its balance from the database.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Computing the hash of each new block is largely the same process, but in reverse: Starting with all the edge nodes (accounts), the trie is built through successive hashings, until finally a new root hash is built and compared with the last agreed-upon block in the chain.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Here's where that bit about the \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">apparent\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> efficiency of the state trie comes into play: re-building the whole trie is very intensive on disk, and the modified Merkle-Patricia trie structure used by Ethereum is more protocol efficient \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">at the cost of implementation efficiency\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>. Those extra node types, leaf and extension, theoretically save on memory needed to store the trie, but they make the algorithms that \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">modify\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> the state inside the regular database more complex. Of course, a decently powerful computer can perform the process at blazing speed. Sheer processing power, however, only goes so far.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003ch4 class=\"chakra-heading css-1u9mv6z\" id=\"sync-baby-sync\">Sync, baby, sync\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h4>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">So far we've limited our scope to what's going on in an \u003c!-- -->\u003cstrong>individual\u003c!-- -->\u003c/strong> computer running an Ethereum implementation like geth. But Ethereum is a network, and the whole point of all of this is to keep the same unified state consistent across thousands of computers worldwide, and between different implementations of the protocol.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The constantly shuffling tokens of #Defi, cryptokitty auctions or cheeze wizard battles, and ordinary ETH transfers all combine to create a rapidly changing state for Ethereum clients to stay in sync with, and it gets harder and harder the more popular Ethereum becomes, and the deeper the state trie gets.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css 1cl98my\">.css-1cl98my{display:inline-block;font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-mono);font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-sm);-webkit-padding-start:0.2em;padding-inline-start:0.2em;-webkit-padding-end:0.2em;padding-inline-end:0.2em;border-radius:var(--chakra-radii-sm);background:var(--chakra-colors-gray-100);color:var(--chakra-colors-gray-800);padding:var(--chakra-space-2);}\u003c/style>\u003cblockquote class=\"chakra-code css-1cl98my\">\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Turbo-geth is one implementation that gets to the root of the problem: It flattens the trie database and uses the path of a node (rather than its hash) as the [key, value] pair. This effectively makes the depth of the tree irrelevant for lookups, and allows for a variety of nifty features that can improve performance and reduce the load on disk when running a full node.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The Ethereum state is \u003c!-- -->\u003cstrong>big\u003c!-- -->\u003c/strong>, and it changes with every block. How big, and how much of a change? We can ballpark the current state of Ethereum at around 400 million nodes in the state trie. Of these, about 3,000 (but as many as 6,000) need to be added or modified every 15 seconds. Staying in sync with the Ethereum blockchain is, effectively, constantly building a new version of the state trie over and over again.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cblockquote class=\"chakra-code css-1cl98my\">\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">This multi-step process of state trie database operations is why Ethereum implementations are so taxing on disk I/O and memory, and why even a "fast sync" can take up to 6 hours to complete, even on fast connections. To run a full node in Ethereum, a fast SSD (as opposed to a cheap, reliable HDD) is a \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">requirement\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>, because processing state changes is extremely demanding on disk read/writes.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Here it's important to note that there is a very large and significant distinction between \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">establishing a new node to sync\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> and \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">keeping an existing node synced\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> -- A distinction that, when we get to stateless Ethereum, will blur (hopefully).\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The straightforward way to sync a node is with the "full sync" method: Starting from the genesis block, a list of every transaction in each block is retrieved, and a state trie is built. With each subsequent block, the state trie is modified, adding and modifying nodes as the complete history of the blockchain is replayed. It takes a full week to download and execute a state change for every block from the beginning, but it's just a matter of time before the transactions you need are pending inclusion into the next new block, rather than being already solidified in an old one.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Another method, aptly named "fast-sync", is quicker but more complicated: A new client can, instead of requesting transactions from the beginning of time, request state entries from a recent, trusted 'checkpoint' block. It's far less \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">total\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> information to download, but it is still a lot of information to process-- \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">sync is not currently limited by bandwidth, but by disk performance\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">A fast-syncing node is essentially in a race with the tip of the chain. It needs to get \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">all\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> of the state at the 'checkpoint' before that state goes stale and stops being offered by full nodes (It can 'pivot' to a new checkpoint if that happens). Once a fast-syncing node overcomes the hurdle and get its state fully caught up with a checkpoint, it can then switch to full sync -- building and updating its own copy of state from the included transactions in each block.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003ch4 class=\"chakra-heading css-1u9mv6z\" id=\"can-i-get-a-block-witness\">Can I get a block witness?\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h4>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">We can now start to unpack the concept of stateless Ethereum. One of the main goals is to make \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">new nodes\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> less painful to spin up. Given that only 0.1% of the state is changing from block to block, it seems like there should be a means of cutting down on all that extra 'stuff' that needs to be downloaded before the full sync switchover.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">But this is one of the challenges imposed by Ethereum's cryptographically secure data structure: In a trie, a change to just one value will result in a completely different root hash. That's a feature, not a bug! It keeps everybody certain that they are on the same page (at the same state) with everyone else on the network.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">To take a shortcut, we need a new piece of information about state: a block witness.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Suppose that just one value in this trie has changed recently (highlighted in green):\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">\u003cimg alt=\"Simple trie\" src=\"/images/posts/State_example.png\" class=\"chakra-image css-hw6q2r\"/>\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">A full node syncing the state (including this transaction) will go about it the old-fashioned way: By taking all the pieces of state, and hashing them together to create a new root hash. They can then easily verify that their state is the same as everyone else's (since they have the same hash, and the same history of transactions).\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">But what about someone that has just tuned in? What's the \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">smallest\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> amount of information that new node needs in order to verify that -- at least for as long as it's been watching -- its observations are consistent with everyone elses?\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">A new, oblivious node will need older, wiser full nodes to provide \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">proof\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> that the observed transaction fits in with everything they've seen so far about the state.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">\u003cimg alt=\"Witness\" src=\"/images/posts/Witness_info.png\" class=\"chakra-image css-hw6q2r\"/>\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In very abstract terms, a block witness proof provides all of the missing hashes in a state trie, combined with some 'structural' information about where in the trie those hashes belong. This allows an 'oblivious' node to include the new transaction in its state, and to compute the new root hash locally -- without requiring them to download an entire copy of the state trie.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">This is, in a nutshell, the idea behind \u003c!-- -->\u003ca target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"chakra-link css-ug8vf0\" href=\"https://medium.com/@jason.carver/intro-to-beam-sync-a0fd168be14a\">beam sync\u003c!-- -->\u003c/a>. Rather than waiting to collect each node in the checkpoint trie, beam sync begins watching and trying to execute transactions as they happen, requesting a witness with each block from a full node for the information it doesn't have. As more and more of the state is 'touched' by new transactions, the client can rely more and more on its own copy of state, which (in beam sync) will gradually fill in until it eventually switches over to full sync.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003ch4 class=\"chakra-heading css-1u9mv6z\" id=\"statelessness-is-a-spectrum\">Statelessness is a spectrum\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h4>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">With the introduction of a block witness, the concept of 'fully stateless' starts to get more defined. At the same time, it's where we start to run into open questions and problems with no obvious solution.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In contrast to beam sync, a \u003c!-- -->\u003cstrong>truly stateless\u003c!-- -->\u003c/strong> client would \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">never\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> keep a copy of state; it would only grab the latest transactions together with the witness, and have everything it needs to execute the next block.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">You might see that, if the \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">entire network\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> were stateless, this could actually hold up forever-- witnesses for new blocks can be produced from the previous block. It'd be witnesses all the way down! At least, down to the last agreed upon 'state of affiars', and the first witness generated from that state. That's a big, dramatic change to Ethereum not likely to win widespread support.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">A less dramatic approach is to accommodate varying degrees of 'statefullness', and have a network in which \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">some\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> nodes keep a full copy of the state and can serve everyone else fresh witnesses.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css 1onhfjo\">.css-1onhfjo{list-style-type:initial;-webkit-margin-start:1em;margin-inline-start:1em;margin-left:var(--chakra-space-10);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-5);}\u003c/style>\u003cul role=\"list\" class=\"css-1onhfjo\">\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css cvpopp\">.css-cvpopp{list-style-type:inherit;}\u003c/style>\u003cli class=\"css-cvpopp\">\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Full-state nodes would operate as before, but would additionally compute a witness and either attach it to a new block, or propagate it through a secondary network sub-protocol.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003c/li>\u003cli class=\"css-cvpopp\">\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Partial-state nodes could keep a full state for just a short number of blocks, or perhaps just 'watch' the piece of state that they're interested in, and get the rest of the data that they need to verify blocks from witnesses. This would help infrastructure-running dapp developers immensely.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003c/li>\u003cli class=\"css-cvpopp\">\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Zero-state nodes, who by definition want to keep their clients running as light as possible, could rely entirely on witnesses to verify new blocks.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003c/li>\u003c/ul>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Getting this scheme to work might entail something like bittorrent-style chunking and swarming behavior, where witness fragments are propagated according to their need and best connections to other nodes with (complementary) partial state. Or, it might involve working out an alternative implementation of the state trie more amenable to witness generation. This is stuff to investigate and prototype!\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">For a much more in-depth analysis of what the trade-offs of stateful vs stateless nodes are, see Alexey Akhunov's \u003c!-- -->\u003ca target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"chakra-link css-ug8vf0\" href=\"https://medium.com/@akhounov/the-shades-of-statefulness-in-ethereum-nodes-697b0f88cd04\">The shades of statefulness\u003c!-- -->\u003c/a>.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">An important feature of the semi-stateless approach is that these changes don't \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">necessarily\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> imply big, hard-forking changes. Through small, testable, and incremental improvements, it's possible to build out the stateless component of Ethereum into a complementary sub-protocol, or as a series of un-controversial EIPs instead of a large 'leap-of-faith' upgrade.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003ch4 class=\"chakra-heading css-1u9mv6z\" id=\"the-roadmap-ahead\">The road(map) ahead\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h4>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The elephant in the research room is \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">witness size\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>. Ordinary blocks contain a header, and a list of transactions, and are on the order of 100 kB. This is small enough to make the propagation of blocks quick relative to network latency and the 15 second block time.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Witnesses, however, need to contain the hashes of nodes both at the edges and deep inside the state trie. This means they are much, much bigger: early numbers suggest on the order of 1 MB. Consequently, syncing a witness is much much slower relative to network latency and block time, which could be a problem.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The dilemma is akin to the difference between downloading a movie or streaming it: If the network is too slow to keep up with the stream, downloading the full movie is the only workable option. If the network is much faster, the movie can be streamed with no problem. In the middle, you need more data to decide. Those with sub-par ISPs will recognize the gravity of attempting to stream a friday night movie over a network that might not be up for the task.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">This, largely, is where we start getting into the detailed problems that the Eth 1x group is tackling. Right now, not enough is known about the hypothetical witness network to know for sure it'll work properly or optimally, but the devil is in the details (and the data).\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">One line of inquiry is to think about ways to compress and reduce the size of witnesses by changing the structure of the trie itself (such as a binary trie), to make it more efficient at the implimentation level. Another is to prototype the network primitives (bittorrent-style swarming) that allow witnesses to be efficiently passed around between different nodes on the network. Both of these would benefit from a formalized witness specification -- which doesn't exist yet.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">All of these directions (and more) are being compiled into a more organized roadmap, which will be distilled and published in the coming weeks. The points highlighted on the roadmap will be topics of future deep dives.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">If you've made it this far, you should have a good idea of what "Stateless Ethereum" is all about, and some of the context for emerging Eth1x R&D.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">As always, if you have questions about Eth1x efforts, requests for topics, or want to contribute, come introduce yourself on ethresear.ch or reach out to @gichiba and/or @JHancock on twitter.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Special thanks to Alexey Akhunov for providing technical feedback and some of the trie diagrams.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Happy new year, and happy Muir Glacier hardfork!\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\u003c/article>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css 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We ended with the concept of _stateless ethereum_, and left a more detailed examination of the stateless client for this post.\\n\\n_Stateless_ is the new direction of Eth 1.x research, so we're going to do a pretty deep dive and get a real sense of the challenges and possibilities that are expected on the road ahead. For those that want to dive even deeper, I'll do my best to link to more verbose resources whenever possible.\\n\\n## The State of Stateless Ethereum\\n\\nTo see where we're going, we must first understand where we are with the concept of 'state'. When we say 'state', it's in the sense of \\\"a state of affairs\\\".\\n\\nThe complete ‘state’ of Ethereum describes the current status of all accounts and balances, as well as the collective memories of all smart contracts deployed and running in the EVM. Every finalized block in the chain has one and only one state, which is agreed upon by all participants in the network. That state is changed and updated with each new block that is added to the chain.\\n\\nIn the context of Eth 1.x research, it's important not just to know what state _is_, but _how it's represented_ in both the protocol (as defined in the yellow paper), and in most client implementations (e.g. geth, parity, trinity, besu, etc.).\\n\\n### Give it a trie\\n\\nThe data structure used in Ethereum is called a Merkle-Patricia Trie. Fun fact: 'Trie' is originally taken from the word 'retrieval', but most people pronounce it as 'try' to distinguish it from 'tree' when speaking. But I digress. What we need to know about Merkle-Patricia Tries is as follows:\\n\\nAt one end of the trie, there are all of the particular pieces of data that describe state (value nodes). This could be a particular account's balance, or a variable stored in a smart contract (such as the total supply of an ERC-20 token). In the middle are _branch nodes_, which link all of the values together through hashing. A branch node is an array containing the hashes of its child nodes, and each branch node is subsequently hashed and put into the array of its parent node. This successive hashing eventually arrives at a single state root node on the other end of the trie.\\n\\n\\n\\nIn the simplified diagram above, we can see each value, as well as the _path_ that describes how to get to that value. For example, to get to V-2, we traverse the path 1,3,3,4. Similarly, V-3 can be reached by traversing the path 3,2,3,3. Note that paths in this example are always 4 characters in length, and that there is often only one path to take to reach a value.\\n\\nThis structure has the important property of being deterministic and cryptographically verifiable: The only way to generate a state root is by computing it from each individual piece of the state, and two states that are identical can be easily proven so by comparing the root hash and the hashes that led to it (_a Merkle proof_). Conversely, there is no way to create two different states with the same root hash, and any attempt to modify state with different values will result in a different state root hash.\\n\\nEthereum optimizes the trie structure by introducing a few new node types that improve efficiency: extension nodes and leaf nodes. These encode parts of the _path_ into nodes so that the trie is more compact.\\n\\n\\n\\nIn this modified Merkle-Patricia trie structure, each node will lead to a choice between multiple next nodes, a compressed part of a path that subsequent nodes share, or values (prepended by the rest of their path, if necessary). It's the same data and the same organization, but this trie only needs 9 nodes instead of 18. This _seems_ more efficient, but with the benefit of hindsight, isn't actually optimal. We'll explore why in the next section.\\n\\nTo arrive at a particular part of state (such as an account's current balance of Ether), one needs to start at the state root and crawl along the trie from node to node until the desired value is reached. At each node, characters in the _path_ are used to decide which next node to travel to, like a [divining rod](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing), but for navigating hashed data structures.\\n\\nIn the 'real' version used by Ethereum, _paths_ are the hashes of an address 64 characters (256 bits) in length, and _values_ are [RLP-encoded data](https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/RLP). Branch nodes are arrays that contain 17 elements (sixteen for each of the possible hexadecimal characters, and one for a value), while leaf nodes and extension nodes contain 2 elements (one partial path and either a value or the hash of the next child node). The Ethereum wiki is likely the best place to [read more about this](https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/Patricia-Tree), or, if you would like to get way into the weeds, [this article](https://easythereentropy.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/understanding-the-ethereum-trie/) has a great (but unfortunately deprecated) DIY trie exercise in Python to play with.\\n\\n#### Stick it in a Database\\n\\nAt this point we should remind ourselves that the trie structure is just an abstract concept. It's a way of packing the totality of Ethereum state into one unified structure. That structure, however, then needs to be _implemented_ in the code of the client, and stored on a disk (or a few thousand of them scattered around the globe). This means taking a multi-dimensional trie and stuffing it into an ordinary database, which understands only _[key, value]_ pairs.\\n\\nIn most Ethereum clients (all except turbo-geth), the Merkle-Patricia Trie is implemented by creating a distinct _[key, value]_ pair for each node, where the value is the node itself, and the key is the hash of that node.\\n\\n\\n\\nThe process of traversing the trie, then, is more or less the same as the theoretical process described earlier. To look up an account balance, we would start with the root hash, and look up its value in the database to get the first branch node. Using the first character of our hashed address, we find the hash of the first node. We look that hash up in the database, and get our second node. Using the next character of the hashed address, we find the hash of the third node. If we're lucky, we might find an extension or leaf node along the way, and not need to go through all 64 nibbles -- but eventually, we'll arrive at our desired account, and be able to retrieve its balance from the database.\\n\\nComputing the hash of each new block is largely the same process, but in reverse: Starting with all the edge nodes (accounts), the trie is built through successive hashings, until finally a new root hash is built and compared with the last agreed-upon block in the chain.\\n\\nHere's where that bit about the _apparent_ efficiency of the state trie comes into play: re-building the whole trie is very intensive on disk, and the modified Merkle-Patricia trie structure used by Ethereum is more protocol efficient _at the cost of implementation efficiency_. Those extra node types, leaf and extension, theoretically save on memory needed to store the trie, but they make the algorithms that _modify_ the state inside the regular database more complex. Of course, a decently powerful computer can perform the process at blazing speed. Sheer processing power, however, only goes so far.\\n\\n#### Sync, baby, sync\\n\\nSo far we've limited our scope to what's going on in an **individual** computer running an Ethereum implementation like geth. But Ethereum is a network, and the whole point of all of this is to keep the same unified state consistent across thousands of computers worldwide, and between different implementations of the protocol.\\n\\nThe constantly shuffling tokens of #Defi, cryptokitty auctions or cheeze wizard battles, and ordinary ETH transfers all combine to create a rapidly changing state for Ethereum clients to stay in sync with, and it gets harder and harder the more popular Ethereum becomes, and the deeper the state trie gets.\\n\\n\\u003e Turbo-geth is one implementation that gets to the root of the problem: It flattens the trie database and uses the path of a node (rather than its hash) as the [key, value] pair. This effectively makes the depth of the tree irrelevant for lookups, and allows for a variety of nifty features that can improve performance and reduce the load on disk when running a full node.\\n\\nThe Ethereum state is **big**, and it changes with every block. How big, and how much of a change? We can ballpark the current state of Ethereum at around 400 million nodes in the state trie. Of these, about 3,000 (but as many as 6,000) need to be added or modified every 15 seconds. Staying in sync with the Ethereum blockchain is, effectively, constantly building a new version of the state trie over and over again.\\n\\n\\u003e This multi-step process of state trie database operations is why Ethereum implementations are so taxing on disk I/O and memory, and why even a \\\"fast sync\\\" can take up to 6 hours to complete, even on fast connections. To run a full node in Ethereum, a fast SSD (as opposed to a cheap, reliable HDD) is a _requirement_, because processing state changes is extremely demanding on disk read/writes.\\n\\nHere it's important to note that there is a very large and significant distinction between _establishing a new node to sync_ and _keeping an existing node synced_ -- A distinction that, when we get to stateless Ethereum, will blur (hopefully).\\n\\nThe straightforward way to sync a node is with the \\\"full sync\\\" method: Starting from the genesis block, a list of every transaction in each block is retrieved, and a state trie is built. With each subsequent block, the state trie is modified, adding and modifying nodes as the complete history of the blockchain is replayed. It takes a full week to download and execute a state change for every block from the beginning, but it's just a matter of time before the transactions you need are pending inclusion into the next new block, rather than being already solidified in an old one.\\n\\nAnother method, aptly named \\\"fast-sync\\\", is quicker but more complicated: A new client can, instead of requesting transactions from the beginning of time, request state entries from a recent, trusted 'checkpoint' block. It's far less _total_ information to download, but it is still a lot of information to process-- _sync is not currently limited by bandwidth, but by disk performance_.\\n\\nA fast-syncing node is essentially in a race with the tip of the chain. It needs to get _all_ of the state at the 'checkpoint' before that state goes stale and stops being offered by full nodes (It can 'pivot' to a new checkpoint if that happens). Once a fast-syncing node overcomes the hurdle and get its state fully caught up with a checkpoint, it can then switch to full sync -- building and updating its own copy of state from the included transactions in each block.\\n\\n#### Can I get a block witness?\\n\\nWe can now start to unpack the concept of stateless Ethereum. One of the main goals is to make _new nodes_ less painful to spin up. Given that only 0.1% of the state is changing from block to block, it seems like there should be a means of cutting down on all that extra 'stuff' that needs to be downloaded before the full sync switchover.\\n\\nBut this is one of the challenges imposed by Ethereum's cryptographically secure data structure: In a trie, a change to just one value will result in a completely different root hash. That's a feature, not a bug! It keeps everybody certain that they are on the same page (at the same state) with everyone else on the network.\\n\\nTo take a shortcut, we need a new piece of information about state: a block witness.\\n\\nSuppose that just one value in this trie has changed recently (highlighted in green):\\n\\n\\n\\nA full node syncing the state (including this transaction) will go about it the old-fashioned way: By taking all the pieces of state, and hashing them together to create a new root hash. They can then easily verify that their state is the same as everyone else's (since they have the same hash, and the same history of transactions).\\n\\nBut what about someone that has just tuned in? What's the _smallest_ amount of information that new node needs in order to verify that -- at least for as long as it's been watching -- its observations are consistent with everyone elses?\\n\\nA new, oblivious node will need older, wiser full nodes to provide _proof_ that the observed transaction fits in with everything they've seen so far about the state.\\n\\n\\n\\nIn very abstract terms, a block witness proof provides all of the missing hashes in a state trie, combined with some 'structural' information about where in the trie those hashes belong. This allows an 'oblivious' node to include the new transaction in its state, and to compute the new root hash locally -- without requiring them to download an entire copy of the state trie.\\n\\nThis is, in a nutshell, the idea behind [beam sync](https://medium.com/@jason.carver/intro-to-beam-sync-a0fd168be14a). Rather than waiting to collect each node in the checkpoint trie, beam sync begins watching and trying to execute transactions as they happen, requesting a witness with each block from a full node for the information it doesn't have. As more and more of the state is 'touched' by new transactions, the client can rely more and more on its own copy of state, which (in beam sync) will gradually fill in until it eventually switches over to full sync.\\n\\n#### Statelessness is a spectrum\\n\\nWith the introduction of a block witness, the concept of 'fully stateless' starts to get more defined. At the same time, it's where we start to run into open questions and problems with no obvious solution.\\n\\nIn contrast to beam sync, a **truly stateless** client would _never_ keep a copy of state; it would only grab the latest transactions together with the witness, and have everything it needs to execute the next block.\\n\\nYou might see that, if the _entire network_ were stateless, this could actually hold up forever-- witnesses for new blocks can be produced from the previous block. It'd be witnesses all the way down! At least, down to the last agreed upon 'state of affiars', and the first witness generated from that state. That's a big, dramatic change to Ethereum not likely to win widespread support.\\n\\nA less dramatic approach is to accommodate varying degrees of 'statefullness', and have a network in which _some_ nodes keep a full copy of the state and can serve everyone else fresh witnesses.\\n\\n- Full-state nodes would operate as before, but would additionally compute a witness and either attach it to a new block, or propagate it through a secondary network sub-protocol.\\n\\n- Partial-state nodes could keep a full state for just a short number of blocks, or perhaps just 'watch' the piece of state that they're interested in, and get the rest of the data that they need to verify blocks from witnesses. This would help infrastructure-running dapp developers immensely.\\n\\n- Zero-state nodes, who by definition want to keep their clients running as light as possible, could rely entirely on witnesses to verify new blocks.\\n\\nGetting this scheme to work might entail something like bittorrent-style chunking and swarming behavior, where witness fragments are propagated according to their need and best connections to other nodes with (complementary) partial state. Or, it might involve working out an alternative implementation of the state trie more amenable to witness generation. This is stuff to investigate and prototype!\\n\\nFor a much more in-depth analysis of what the trade-offs of stateful vs stateless nodes are, see Alexey Akhunov's [The shades of statefulness](https://medium.com/@akhounov/the-shades-of-statefulness-in-ethereum-nodes-697b0f88cd04).\\n\\nAn important feature of the semi-stateless approach is that these changes don't _necessarily_ imply big, hard-forking changes. Through small, testable, and incremental improvements, it's possible to build out the stateless component of Ethereum into a complementary sub-protocol, or as a series of un-controversial EIPs instead of a large 'leap-of-faith' upgrade.\\n\\n#### The road(map) ahead\\n\\nThe elephant in the research room is _witness size_. Ordinary blocks contain a header, and a list of transactions, and are on the order of 100 kB. This is small enough to make the propagation of blocks quick relative to network latency and the 15 second block time.\\n\\nWitnesses, however, need to contain the hashes of nodes both at the edges and deep inside the state trie. This means they are much, much bigger: early numbers suggest on the order of 1 MB. Consequently, syncing a witness is much much slower relative to network latency and block time, which could be a problem.\\n\\nThe dilemma is akin to the difference between downloading a movie or streaming it: If the network is too slow to keep up with the stream, downloading the full movie is the only workable option. If the network is much faster, the movie can be streamed with no problem. In the middle, you need more data to decide. Those with sub-par ISPs will recognize the gravity of attempting to stream a friday night movie over a network that might not be up for the task.\\n\\nThis, largely, is where we start getting into the detailed problems that the Eth 1x group is tackling. Right now, not enough is known about the hypothetical witness network to know for sure it'll work properly or optimally, but the devil is in the details (and the data).\\n\\nOne line of inquiry is to think about ways to compress and reduce the size of witnesses by changing the structure of the trie itself (such as a binary trie), to make it more efficient at the implimentation level. Another is to prototype the network primitives (bittorrent-style swarming) that allow witnesses to be efficiently passed around between different nodes on the network. Both of these would benefit from a formalized witness specification -- which doesn't exist yet.\\n\\nAll of these directions (and more) are being compiled into a more organized roadmap, which will be distilled and published in the coming weeks. The points highlighted on the roadmap will be topics of future deep dives.\\n\\nIf you've made it this far, you should have a good idea of what \\\"Stateless Ethereum\\\" is all about, and some of the context for emerging Eth1x R\\u0026D.\\n\\nAs always, if you have questions about Eth1x efforts, requests for topics, or want to contribute, come introduce yourself on ethresear.ch or reach out to @gichiba and/or @JHancock on twitter.\\n\\nSpecial thanks to Alexey Akhunov for providing technical feedback and some of the trie diagrams.\\n\\nHappy new year, and happy Muir Glacier 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the .css-ug8vf0{transition-property:var(--chakra-transition-property-common);transition-duration:var(--chakra-transition-duration-fast);transition-timing-function:var(--chakra-transition-easing-ease-out);cursor:pointer;-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;outline:2px solid transparent;outline-offset:2px;color:var(--chakra-colors-fg-link);font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-body);display:inline;}.css-ug8vf0:hover,.css-ug8vf0[data-hover]{-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;box-shadow:inset 0 -8px 0 rgba(165, 234, 245, 0.5);}.css-ug8vf0:focus-visible,.css-ug8vf0[data-focus-visible]{box-shadow:var(--chakra-shadows-outline);}last edition of The 1.x files, we did a quick re-cap of where the Eth 1.x research initiative came from, what's at stake, and what some possible solutions are. We ended with the concept of stateless ethereum, and left a more detailed examination of the stateless client for this post.\nStateless is the new direction of Eth 1.x research, so we're going to do a pretty deep dive and get a real sense of the challenges and possibilities that are expected on the road ahead. For those that want to dive even deeper, I'll do my best to link to more verbose resources whenever possible.\n.css-1w54o5f{font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-heading);font-weight:var(--chakra-fontWeights-bold);font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-3xl);line-height:1.33;margin-top:var(--chakra-space-12);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-4);text-align:start;}@media screen and (min-width: 360px){.css-1w54o5f{line-height:1.2;}}@media screen and (min-width: 768px){.css-1w54o5f{font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-4xl);margin-top:var(--chakra-space-1);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-7);}}The State of Stateless Ethereum\nTo see where we're going, we must first understand where we are with the concept of 'state'. When we say 'state', it's in the sense of \"a state of affairs\".\nThe complete ‘state’ of Ethereum describes the current status of all accounts and balances, as well as the collective memories of all smart contracts deployed and running in the EVM. Every finalized block in the chain has one and only one state, which is agreed upon by all participants in the network. That state is changed and updated with each new block that is added to the chain.\nIn the context of Eth 1.x research, it's important not just to know what state is, but how it's represented in both the protocol (as defined in the yellow paper), and in most client implementations (e.g. geth, parity, trinity, besu, etc.).\n.css-145upk7{font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-heading);font-weight:var(--chakra-fontWeights-bold);font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-xl);line-height:1.33;margin-top:var(--chakra-space-4);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-4);}@media screen and (min-width: 360px){.css-145upk7{line-height:1.2;}}@media screen and (min-width: 768px){.css-145upk7{font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-2xl);margin-top:var(--chakra-space-1);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-5);}}Give it a trie\nThe data structure used in Ethereum is called a Merkle-Patricia Trie. Fun fact: 'Trie' is originally taken from the word 'retrieval', but most people pronounce it as 'try' to distinguish it from 'tree' when speaking. But I digress. What we need to know about Merkle-Patricia Tries is as follows:\nAt one end of the trie, there are all of the particular pieces of data that describe state (value nodes). This could be a particular account's balance, or a variable stored in a smart contract (such as the total supply of an ERC-20 token). In the middle are branch nodes, which link all of the values together through hashing. A branch node is an array containing the hashes of its child nodes, and each branch node is subsequently hashed and put into the array of its parent node. This successive hashing eventually arrives at a single state root node on the other end of the trie.\n.css-hw6q2r{display:block;-webkit-margin-start:auto;margin-inline-start:auto;-webkit-margin-end:auto;margin-inline-end:auto;}\nIn the simplified diagram above, we can see each value, as well as the path that describes how to get to that value. For example, to get to V-2, we traverse the path 1,3,3,4. Similarly, V-3 can be reached by traversing the path 3,2,3,3. Note that paths in this example are always 4 characters in length, and that there is often only one path to take to reach a value.\nThis structure has the important property of being deterministic and cryptographically verifiable: The only way to generate a state root is by computing it from each individual piece of the state, and two states that are identical can be easily proven so by comparing the root hash and the hashes that led to it (a Merkle proof). Conversely, there is no way to create two different states with the same root hash, and any attempt to modify state with different values will result in a different state root hash.\nEthereum optimizes the trie structure by introducing a few new node types that improve efficiency: extension nodes and leaf nodes. These encode parts of the path into nodes so that the trie is more compact.\n\nIn this modified Merkle-Patricia trie structure, each node will lead to a choice between multiple next nodes, a compressed part of a path that subsequent nodes share, or values (prepended by the rest of their path, if necessary). It's the same data and the same organization, but this trie only needs 9 nodes instead of 18. This seems more efficient, but with the benefit of hindsight, isn't actually optimal. We'll explore why in the next section.\nTo arrive at a particular part of state (such as an account's current balance of Ether), one needs to start at the state root and crawl along the trie from node to node until the desired value is reached. At each node, characters in the path are used to decide which next node to travel to, like a divining rod, but for navigating hashed data structures.\nIn the 'real' version used by Ethereum, paths are the hashes of an address 64 characters (256 bits) in length, and values are RLP-encoded data. Branch nodes are arrays that contain 17 elements (sixteen for each of the possible hexadecimal characters, and one for a value), while leaf nodes and extension nodes contain 2 elements (one partial path and either a value or the hash of the next child node). The Ethereum wiki is likely the best place to read more about this, or, if you would like to get way into the weeds, this article has a great (but unfortunately deprecated) DIY trie exercise in Python to play with.\n.css-1u9mv6z{font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-heading);font-weight:var(--chakra-fontWeights-bold);font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-lg);line-height:1.33;margin-top:var(--chakra-space-4);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-4);}@media screen and (min-width: 360px){.css-1u9mv6z{line-height:1.2;}}@media screen and (min-width: 768px){.css-1u9mv6z{margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-7);}}Stick it in a Database\nAt this point we should remind ourselves that the trie structure is just an abstract concept. It's a way of packing the totality of Ethereum state into one unified structure. That structure, however, then needs to be implemented in the code of the client, and stored on a disk (or a few thousand of them scattered around the globe). This means taking a multi-dimensional trie and stuffing it into an ordinary database, which understands only [key, value] pairs.\nIn most Ethereum clients (all except turbo-geth), the Merkle-Patricia Trie is implemented by creating a distinct [key, value] pair for each node, where the value is the node itself, and the key is the hash of that node.\n\nThe process of traversing the trie, then, is more or less the same as the theoretical process described earlier. To look up an account balance, we would start with the root hash, and look up its value in the database to get the first branch node. Using the first character of our hashed address, we find the hash of the first node. We look that hash up in the database, and get our second node. Using the next character of the hashed address, we find the hash of the third node. If we're lucky, we might find an extension or leaf node along the way, and not need to go through all 64 nibbles -- but eventually, we'll arrive at our desired account, and be able to retrieve its balance from the database.\nComputing the hash of each new block is largely the same process, but in reverse: Starting with all the edge nodes (accounts), the trie is built through successive hashings, until finally a new root hash is built and compared with the last agreed-upon block in the chain.\nHere's where that bit about the apparent efficiency of the state trie comes into play: re-building the whole trie is very intensive on disk, and the modified Merkle-Patricia trie structure used by Ethereum is more protocol efficient at the cost of implementation efficiency. Those extra node types, leaf and extension, theoretically save on memory needed to store the trie, but they make the algorithms that modify the state inside the regular database more complex. Of course, a decently powerful computer can perform the process at blazing speed. Sheer processing power, however, only goes so far.\nSync, baby, sync\nSo far we've limited our scope to what's going on in an individual computer running an Ethereum implementation like geth. But Ethereum is a network, and the whole point of all of this is to keep the same unified state consistent across thousands of computers worldwide, and between different implementations of the protocol.\nThe constantly shuffling tokens of #Defi, cryptokitty auctions or cheeze wizard battles, and ordinary ETH transfers all combine to create a rapidly changing state for Ethereum clients to stay in sync with, and it gets harder and harder the more popular Ethereum becomes, and the deeper the state trie gets.\n.css-1cl98my{display:inline-block;font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-mono);font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-sm);-webkit-padding-start:0.2em;padding-inline-start:0.2em;-webkit-padding-end:0.2em;padding-inline-end:0.2em;border-radius:var(--chakra-radii-sm);background:var(--chakra-colors-gray-100);color:var(--chakra-colors-gray-800);padding:var(--chakra-space-2);}\nTurbo-geth is one implementation that gets to the root of the problem: It flattens the trie database and uses the path of a node (rather than its hash) as the [key, value] pair. This effectively makes the depth of the tree irrelevant for lookups, and allows for a variety of nifty features that can improve performance and reduce the load on disk when running a full node.\n\nThe Ethereum state is big, and it changes with every block. How big, and how much of a change? We can ballpark the current state of Ethereum at around 400 million nodes in the state trie. Of these, about 3,000 (but as many as 6,000) need to be added or modified every 15 seconds. Staying in sync with the Ethereum blockchain is, effectively, constantly building a new version of the state trie over and over again.\n\nThis multi-step process of state trie database operations is why Ethereum implementations are so taxing on disk I/O and memory, and why even a \"fast sync\" can take up to 6 hours to complete, even on fast connections. To run a full node in Ethereum, a fast SSD (as opposed to a cheap, reliable HDD) is a requirement, because processing state changes is extremely demanding on disk read/writes.\n\nHere it's important to note that there is a very large and significant distinction between establishing a new node to sync and keeping an existing node synced -- A distinction that, when we get to stateless Ethereum, will blur (hopefully).\nThe straightforward way to sync a node is with the \"full sync\" method: Starting from the genesis block, a list of every transaction in each block is retrieved, and a state trie is built. With each subsequent block, the state trie is modified, adding and modifying nodes as the complete history of the blockchain is replayed. It takes a full week to download and execute a state change for every block from the beginning, but it's just a matter of time before the transactions you need are pending inclusion into the next new block, rather than being already solidified in an old one.\nAnother method, aptly named \"fast-sync\", is quicker but more complicated: A new client can, instead of requesting transactions from the beginning of time, request state entries from a recent, trusted 'checkpoint' block. It's far less total information to download, but it is still a lot of information to process-- sync is not currently limited by bandwidth, but by disk performance.\nA fast-syncing node is essentially in a race with the tip of the chain. It needs to get all of the state at the 'checkpoint' before that state goes stale and stops being offered by full nodes (It can 'pivot' to a new checkpoint if that happens). Once a fast-syncing node overcomes the hurdle and get its state fully caught up with a checkpoint, it can then switch to full sync -- building and updating its own copy of state from the included transactions in each block.\nCan I get a block witness?\nWe can now start to unpack the concept of stateless Ethereum. One of the main goals is to make new nodes less painful to spin up. Given that only 0.1% of the state is changing from block to block, it seems like there should be a means of cutting down on all that extra 'stuff' that needs to be downloaded before the full sync switchover.\nBut this is one of the challenges imposed by Ethereum's cryptographically secure data structure: In a trie, a change to just one value will result in a completely different root hash. That's a feature, not a bug! It keeps everybody certain that they are on the same page (at the same state) with everyone else on the network.\nTo take a shortcut, we need a new piece of information about state: a block witness.\nSuppose that just one value in this trie has changed recently (highlighted in green):\n\nA full node syncing the state (including this transaction) will go about it the old-fashioned way: By taking all the pieces of state, and hashing them together to create a new root hash. They can then easily verify that their state is the same as everyone else's (since they have the same hash, and the same history of transactions).\nBut what about someone that has just tuned in? What's the smallest amount of information that new node needs in order to verify that -- at least for as long as it's been watching -- its observations are consistent with everyone elses?\nA new, oblivious node will need older, wiser full nodes to provide proof that the observed transaction fits in with everything they've seen so far about the state.\n\nIn very abstract terms, a block witness proof provides all of the missing hashes in a state trie, combined with some 'structural' information about where in the trie those hashes belong. This allows an 'oblivious' node to include the new transaction in its state, and to compute the new root hash locally -- without requiring them to download an entire copy of the state trie.\nThis is, in a nutshell, the idea behind beam sync. Rather than waiting to collect each node in the checkpoint trie, beam sync begins watching and trying to execute transactions as they happen, requesting a witness with each block from a full node for the information it doesn't have. As more and more of the state is 'touched' by new transactions, the client can rely more and more on its own copy of state, which (in beam sync) will gradually fill in until it eventually switches over to full sync.\nStatelessness is a spectrum\nWith the introduction of a block witness, the concept of 'fully stateless' starts to get more defined. At the same time, it's where we start to run into open questions and problems with no obvious solution.\nIn contrast to beam sync, a truly stateless client would never keep a copy of state; it would only grab the latest transactions together with the witness, and have everything it needs to execute the next block.\nYou might see that, if the entire network were stateless, this could actually hold up forever-- witnesses for new blocks can be produced from the previous block. It'd be witnesses all the way down! At least, down to the last agreed upon 'state of affiars', and the first witness generated from that state. That's a big, dramatic change to Ethereum not likely to win widespread support.\nA less dramatic approach is to accommodate varying degrees of 'statefullness', and have a network in which some nodes keep a full copy of the state and can serve everyone else fresh witnesses.\n.css-1onhfjo{list-style-type:initial;-webkit-margin-start:1em;margin-inline-start:1em;margin-left:var(--chakra-space-10);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-5);}.css-cvpopp{list-style-type:inherit;}\nFull-state nodes would operate as before, but would additionally compute a witness and either attach it to a new block, or propagate it through a secondary network sub-protocol.\n\nPartial-state nodes could keep a full state for just a short number of blocks, or perhaps just 'watch' the piece of state that they're interested in, and get the rest of the data that they need to verify blocks from witnesses. This would help infrastructure-running dapp developers immensely.\n\nZero-state nodes, who by definition want to keep their clients running as light as possible, could rely entirely on witnesses to verify new blocks.\n\nGetting this scheme to work might entail something like bittorrent-style chunking and swarming behavior, where witness fragments are propagated according to their need and best connections to other nodes with (complementary) partial state. Or, it might involve working out an alternative implementation of the state trie more amenable to witness generation. This is stuff to investigate and prototype!\nFor a much more in-depth analysis of what the trade-offs of stateful vs stateless nodes are, see Alexey Akhunov's The shades of statefulness.\nAn important feature of the semi-stateless approach is that these changes don't necessarily imply big, hard-forking changes. Through small, testable, and incremental improvements, it's possible to build out the stateless component of Ethereum into a complementary sub-protocol, or as a series of un-controversial EIPs instead of a large 'leap-of-faith' upgrade.\nThe road(map) ahead\nThe elephant in the research room is witness size. Ordinary blocks contain a header, and a list of transactions, and are on the order of 100 kB. This is small enough to make the propagation of blocks quick relative to network latency and the 15 second block time.\nWitnesses, however, need to contain the hashes of nodes both at the edges and deep inside the state trie. This means they are much, much bigger: early numbers suggest on the order of 1 MB. Consequently, syncing a witness is much much slower relative to network latency and block time, which could be a problem.\nThe dilemma is akin to the difference between downloading a movie or streaming it: If the network is too slow to keep up with the stream, downloading the full movie is the only workable option. If the network is much faster, the movie can be streamed with no problem. In the middle, you need more data to decide. Those with sub-par ISPs will recognize the gravity of attempting to stream a friday night movie over a network that might not be up for the task.\nThis, largely, is where we start getting into the detailed problems that the Eth 1x group is tackling. Right now, not enough is known about the hypothetical witness network to know for sure it'll work properly or optimally, but the devil is in the details (and the data).\nOne line of inquiry is to think about ways to compress and reduce the size of witnesses by changing the structure of the trie itself (such as a binary trie), to make it more efficient at the implimentation level. Another is to prototype the network primitives (bittorrent-style swarming) that allow witnesses to be efficiently passed around between different nodes on the network. Both of these would benefit from a formalized witness specification -- which doesn't exist yet.\nAll of these directions (and more) are being compiled into a more organized roadmap, which will be distilled and published in the coming weeks. The points highlighted on the roadmap will be topics of future deep dives.\nIf you've made it this far, you should have a good idea of what \"Stateless Ethereum\" is all about, and some of the context for emerging Eth1x R&D.\nAs always, if you have questions about Eth1x efforts, requests for topics, or want to contribute, come introduce yourself on ethresear.ch or reach out to @gichiba and/or @JHancock on twitter.\nSpecial thanks to Alexey Akhunov for providing technical feedback and some of the trie diagrams.\nHappy new year, and happy Muir Glacier hardfork!","html":"\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css gi02ar\">.css-gi02ar{margin-top:var(--chakra-space-7);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-7);line-height:1.5;}.css-gi02ar:first-of-type{margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-7);}\u003c/style>\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In the \u003c!-- -->\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css ug8vf0\">.css-ug8vf0{transition-property:var(--chakra-transition-property-common);transition-duration:var(--chakra-transition-duration-fast);transition-timing-function:var(--chakra-transition-easing-ease-out);cursor:pointer;-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;outline:2px solid transparent;outline-offset:2px;color:var(--chakra-colors-fg-link);font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-body);display:inline;}.css-ug8vf0:hover,.css-ug8vf0[data-hover]{-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;box-shadow:inset 0 -8px 0 rgba(165, 234, 245, 0.5);}.css-ug8vf0:focus-visible,.css-ug8vf0[data-focus-visible]{box-shadow:var(--chakra-shadows-outline);}\u003c/style>\u003ca class=\"chakra-link css-ug8vf0\" href=\"/2019/12/10/eth1x-files-fast-sync\">last edition of The 1.x files\u003c!-- -->\u003c/a>, we did a quick re-cap of where the Eth 1.x research initiative came from, what's at stake, and what some possible solutions are. We ended with the concept of \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">stateless ethereum\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>, and left a more detailed examination of the stateless client for this post.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">Stateless\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> is the new direction of Eth 1.x research, so we're going to do a pretty deep dive and get a real sense of the challenges and possibilities that are expected on the road ahead. For those that want to dive even deeper, I'll do my best to link to more verbose resources whenever possible.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css 1w54o5f\">.css-1w54o5f{font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-heading);font-weight:var(--chakra-fontWeights-bold);font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-3xl);line-height:1.33;margin-top:var(--chakra-space-12);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-4);text-align:start;}@media screen and (min-width: 360px){.css-1w54o5f{line-height:1.2;}}@media screen and (min-width: 768px){.css-1w54o5f{font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-4xl);margin-top:var(--chakra-space-1);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-7);}}\u003c/style>\u003ch2 class=\"chakra-heading css-1w54o5f\" id=\"the-state-of-stateless-ethereum\">The State of Stateless Ethereum\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h2>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">To see where we're going, we must first understand where we are with the concept of 'state'. When we say 'state', it's in the sense of \"a state of affairs\".\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The complete ‘state’ of Ethereum describes the current status of all accounts and balances, as well as the collective memories of all smart contracts deployed and running in the EVM. Every finalized block in the chain has one and only one state, which is agreed upon by all participants in the network. That state is changed and updated with each new block that is added to the chain.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In the context of Eth 1.x research, it's important not just to know what state \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">is\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>, but \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">how it's represented\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> in both the protocol (as defined in the yellow paper), and in most client implementations (e.g. geth, parity, trinity, besu, etc.).\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css 145upk7\">.css-145upk7{font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-heading);font-weight:var(--chakra-fontWeights-bold);font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-xl);line-height:1.33;margin-top:var(--chakra-space-4);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-4);}@media screen and (min-width: 360px){.css-145upk7{line-height:1.2;}}@media screen and (min-width: 768px){.css-145upk7{font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-2xl);margin-top:var(--chakra-space-1);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-5);}}\u003c/style>\u003ch3 class=\"chakra-heading css-145upk7\" id=\"give-it-a-trie\">Give it a trie\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h3>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The data structure used in Ethereum is called a Merkle-Patricia Trie. Fun fact: 'Trie' is originally taken from the word 'retrieval', but most people pronounce it as 'try' to distinguish it from 'tree' when speaking. But I digress. What we need to know about Merkle-Patricia Tries is as follows:\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">At one end of the trie, there are all of the particular pieces of data that describe state (value nodes). This could be a particular account's balance, or a variable stored in a smart contract (such as the total supply of an ERC-20 token). In the middle are \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">branch nodes\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>, which link all of the values together through hashing. A branch node is an array containing the hashes of its child nodes, and each branch node is subsequently hashed and put into the array of its parent node. This successive hashing eventually arrives at a single state root node on the other end of the trie.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css hw6q2r\">.css-hw6q2r{display:block;-webkit-margin-start:auto;margin-inline-start:auto;-webkit-margin-end:auto;margin-inline-end:auto;}\u003c/style>\u003cimg alt=\"Radix\" src=\"/images/posts/radix.png\" class=\"chakra-image css-hw6q2r\">\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In the simplified diagram above, we can see each value, as well as the \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">path\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> that describes how to get to that value. For example, to get to V-2, we traverse the path 1,3,3,4. Similarly, V-3 can be reached by traversing the path 3,2,3,3. Note that paths in this example are always 4 characters in length, and that there is often only one path to take to reach a value.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">This structure has the important property of being deterministic and cryptographically verifiable: The only way to generate a state root is by computing it from each individual piece of the state, and two states that are identical can be easily proven so by comparing the root hash and the hashes that led to it (\u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">a Merkle proof\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>). Conversely, there is no way to create two different states with the same root hash, and any attempt to modify state with different values will result in a different state root hash.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Ethereum optimizes the trie structure by introducing a few new node types that improve efficiency: extension nodes and leaf nodes. These encode parts of the \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">path\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> into nodes so that the trie is more compact.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">\u003cimg alt=\"Patricia\" src=\"/images/posts/patricia.png\" class=\"chakra-image css-hw6q2r\">\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In this modified Merkle-Patricia trie structure, each node will lead to a choice between multiple next nodes, a compressed part of a path that subsequent nodes share, or values (prepended by the rest of their path, if necessary). It's the same data and the same organization, but this trie only needs 9 nodes instead of 18. This \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">seems\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> more efficient, but with the benefit of hindsight, isn't actually optimal. We'll explore why in the next section.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">To arrive at a particular part of state (such as an account's current balance of Ether), one needs to start at the state root and crawl along the trie from node to node until the desired value is reached. At each node, characters in the \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">path\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> are used to decide which next node to travel to, like a \u003c!-- -->\u003ca target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"chakra-link css-ug8vf0\" href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing\">divining rod\u003c!-- -->\u003c/a>, but for navigating hashed data structures.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In the 'real' version used by Ethereum, \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">paths\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> are the hashes of an address 64 characters (256 bits) in length, and \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">values\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> are \u003c!-- -->\u003ca target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"chakra-link css-ug8vf0\" href=\"https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/RLP\">RLP-encoded data\u003c!-- -->\u003c/a>. Branch nodes are arrays that contain 17 elements (sixteen for each of the possible hexadecimal characters, and one for a value), while leaf nodes and extension nodes contain 2 elements (one partial path and either a value or the hash of the next child node). The Ethereum wiki is likely the best place to \u003c!-- -->\u003ca target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"chakra-link css-ug8vf0\" href=\"https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/Patricia-Tree\">read more about this\u003c!-- -->\u003c/a>, or, if you would like to get way into the weeds, \u003c!-- -->\u003ca target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"chakra-link css-ug8vf0\" href=\"https://easythereentropy.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/understanding-the-ethereum-trie/\">this article\u003c!-- -->\u003c/a> has a great (but unfortunately deprecated) DIY trie exercise in Python to play with.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css 1u9mv6z\">.css-1u9mv6z{font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-heading);font-weight:var(--chakra-fontWeights-bold);font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-lg);line-height:1.33;margin-top:var(--chakra-space-4);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-4);}@media screen and (min-width: 360px){.css-1u9mv6z{line-height:1.2;}}@media screen and (min-width: 768px){.css-1u9mv6z{margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-7);}}\u003c/style>\u003ch4 class=\"chakra-heading css-1u9mv6z\" id=\"stick-it-in-a-database\">Stick it in a Database\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h4>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">At this point we should remind ourselves that the trie structure is just an abstract concept. It's a way of packing the totality of Ethereum state into one unified structure. That structure, however, then needs to be \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">implemented\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> in the code of the client, and stored on a disk (or a few thousand of them scattered around the globe). This means taking a multi-dimensional trie and stuffing it into an ordinary database, which understands only \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">[key, value]\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> pairs.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In most Ethereum clients (all except turbo-geth), the Merkle-Patricia Trie is implemented by creating a distinct \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">[key, value]\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> pair for each node, where the value is the node itself, and the key is the hash of that node.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">\u003cimg alt=\"DB-patricia\" src=\"/images/posts/DB-Patricia.png\" class=\"chakra-image css-hw6q2r\">\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The process of traversing the trie, then, is more or less the same as the theoretical process described earlier. To look up an account balance, we would start with the root hash, and look up its value in the database to get the first branch node. Using the first character of our hashed address, we find the hash of the first node. We look that hash up in the database, and get our second node. Using the next character of the hashed address, we find the hash of the third node. If we're lucky, we might find an extension or leaf node along the way, and not need to go through all 64 nibbles -- but eventually, we'll arrive at our desired account, and be able to retrieve its balance from the database.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Computing the hash of each new block is largely the same process, but in reverse: Starting with all the edge nodes (accounts), the trie is built through successive hashings, until finally a new root hash is built and compared with the last agreed-upon block in the chain.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Here's where that bit about the \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">apparent\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> efficiency of the state trie comes into play: re-building the whole trie is very intensive on disk, and the modified Merkle-Patricia trie structure used by Ethereum is more protocol efficient \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">at the cost of implementation efficiency\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>. Those extra node types, leaf and extension, theoretically save on memory needed to store the trie, but they make the algorithms that \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">modify\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> the state inside the regular database more complex. Of course, a decently powerful computer can perform the process at blazing speed. Sheer processing power, however, only goes so far.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003ch4 class=\"chakra-heading css-1u9mv6z\" id=\"sync-baby-sync\">Sync, baby, sync\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h4>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">So far we've limited our scope to what's going on in an \u003c!-- -->\u003cstrong>individual\u003c!-- -->\u003c/strong> computer running an Ethereum implementation like geth. But Ethereum is a network, and the whole point of all of this is to keep the same unified state consistent across thousands of computers worldwide, and between different implementations of the protocol.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The constantly shuffling tokens of \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#Defi\u003c/span>, cryptokitty auctions or cheeze wizard battles, and ordinary ETH transfers all combine to create a rapidly changing state for Ethereum clients to stay in sync with, and it gets harder and harder the more popular Ethereum becomes, and the deeper the state trie gets.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css 1cl98my\">.css-1cl98my{display:inline-block;font-family:var(--chakra-fonts-mono);font-size:var(--chakra-fontSizes-sm);-webkit-padding-start:0.2em;padding-inline-start:0.2em;-webkit-padding-end:0.2em;padding-inline-end:0.2em;border-radius:var(--chakra-radii-sm);background:var(--chakra-colors-gray-100);color:var(--chakra-colors-gray-800);padding:var(--chakra-space-2);}\u003c/style>\u003cblockquote class=\"chakra-code css-1cl98my\">\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Turbo-geth is one implementation that gets to the root of the problem: It flattens the trie database and uses the path of a node (rather than its hash) as the [key, value] pair. This effectively makes the depth of the tree irrelevant for lookups, and allows for a variety of nifty features that can improve performance and reduce the load on disk when running a full node.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The Ethereum state is \u003c!-- -->\u003cstrong>big\u003c!-- -->\u003c/strong>, and it changes with every block. How big, and how much of a change? We can ballpark the current state of Ethereum at around 400 million nodes in the state trie. Of these, about 3,000 (but as many as 6,000) need to be added or modified every 15 seconds. Staying in sync with the Ethereum blockchain is, effectively, constantly building a new version of the state trie over and over again.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cblockquote class=\"chakra-code css-1cl98my\">\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">This multi-step process of state trie database operations is why Ethereum implementations are so taxing on disk I/O and memory, and why even a \"fast sync\" can take up to 6 hours to complete, even on fast connections. To run a full node in Ethereum, a fast SSD (as opposed to a cheap, reliable HDD) is a \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">requirement\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>, because processing state changes is extremely demanding on disk read/writes.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Here it's important to note that there is a very large and significant distinction between \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">establishing a new node to sync\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> and \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">keeping an existing node synced\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> -- A distinction that, when we get to stateless Ethereum, will blur (hopefully).\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The straightforward way to sync a node is with the \"full sync\" method: Starting from the genesis block, a list of every transaction in each block is retrieved, and a state trie is built. With each subsequent block, the state trie is modified, adding and modifying nodes as the complete history of the blockchain is replayed. It takes a full week to download and execute a state change for every block from the beginning, but it's just a matter of time before the transactions you need are pending inclusion into the next new block, rather than being already solidified in an old one.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Another method, aptly named \"fast-sync\", is quicker but more complicated: A new client can, instead of requesting transactions from the beginning of time, request state entries from a recent, trusted 'checkpoint' block. It's far less \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">total\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> information to download, but it is still a lot of information to process-- \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">sync is not currently limited by bandwidth, but by disk performance\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">A fast-syncing node is essentially in a race with the tip of the chain. It needs to get \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">all\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> of the state at the 'checkpoint' before that state goes stale and stops being offered by full nodes (It can 'pivot' to a new checkpoint if that happens). Once a fast-syncing node overcomes the hurdle and get its state fully caught up with a checkpoint, it can then switch to full sync -- building and updating its own copy of state from the included transactions in each block.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003ch4 class=\"chakra-heading css-1u9mv6z\" id=\"can-i-get-a-block-witness\">Can I get a block witness?\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h4>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">We can now start to unpack the concept of stateless Ethereum. One of the main goals is to make \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">new nodes\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> less painful to spin up. Given that only 0.1% of the state is changing from block to block, it seems like there should be a means of cutting down on all that extra 'stuff' that needs to be downloaded before the full sync switchover.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">But this is one of the challenges imposed by Ethereum's cryptographically secure data structure: In a trie, a change to just one value will result in a completely different root hash. That's a feature, not a bug! It keeps everybody certain that they are on the same page (at the same state) with everyone else on the network.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">To take a shortcut, we need a new piece of information about state: a block witness.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Suppose that just one value in this trie has changed recently (highlighted in green):\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">\u003cimg alt=\"Simple trie\" src=\"/images/posts/State_example.png\" class=\"chakra-image css-hw6q2r\">\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">A full node syncing the state (including this transaction) will go about it the old-fashioned way: By taking all the pieces of state, and hashing them together to create a new root hash. They can then easily verify that their state is the same as everyone else's (since they have the same hash, and the same history of transactions).\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">But what about someone that has just tuned in? What's the \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">smallest\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> amount of information that new node needs in order to verify that -- at least for as long as it's been watching -- its observations are consistent with everyone elses?\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">A new, oblivious node will need older, wiser full nodes to provide \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">proof\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> that the observed transaction fits in with everything they've seen so far about the state.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">\u003cimg alt=\"Witness\" src=\"/images/posts/Witness_info.png\" class=\"chakra-image css-hw6q2r\">\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">In very abstract terms, a block witness proof provides all of the missing hashes in a state trie, combined with some 'structural' information about where in the trie those hashes belong. This allows an 'oblivious' node to include the new transaction in its state, and to compute the new root hash locally -- without requiring them to download an entire copy of the state trie.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">This is, in a nutshell, the idea behind \u003c!-- -->\u003ca target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"chakra-link css-ug8vf0\" href=\"https://medium.com/@jason.carver/intro-to-beam-sync-a0fd168be14a\">beam sync\u003c!-- -->\u003c/a>. Rather than waiting to collect each node in the checkpoint trie, beam sync begins watching and trying to execute transactions as they happen, requesting a witness with each block from a full node for the information it doesn't have. As more and more of the state is 'touched' by new transactions, the client can rely more and more on its own copy of state, which (in beam sync) will gradually fill in until it eventually switches over to full sync.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003ch4 class=\"chakra-heading css-1u9mv6z\" id=\"statelessness-is-a-spectrum\">Statelessness is a spectrum\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h4>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">With the introduction of a block witness, the concept of 'fully stateless' starts to get more defined. 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That's a big, dramatic change to Ethereum not likely to win widespread support.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">A less dramatic approach is to accommodate varying degrees of 'statefullness', and have a network in which \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">some\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> nodes keep a full copy of the state and can serve everyone else fresh witnesses.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css 1onhfjo\">.css-1onhfjo{list-style-type:initial;-webkit-margin-start:1em;margin-inline-start:1em;margin-left:var(--chakra-space-10);margin-bottom:var(--chakra-space-5);}\u003c/style>\u003cul role=\"list\" class=\"css-1onhfjo\">\u003cstyle data-emotion=\"css cvpopp\">.css-cvpopp{list-style-type:inherit;}\u003c/style>\u003cli class=\"css-cvpopp\">\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Full-state nodes would operate as before, but would additionally compute a witness and either attach it to a new block, or propagate it through a secondary network sub-protocol.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003c/li>\u003cli class=\"css-cvpopp\">\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Partial-state nodes could keep a full state for just a short number of blocks, or perhaps just 'watch' the piece of state that they're interested in, and get the rest of the data that they need to verify blocks from witnesses. This would help infrastructure-running dapp developers immensely.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003c/li>\u003cli class=\"css-cvpopp\">\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Zero-state nodes, who by definition want to keep their clients running as light as possible, could rely entirely on witnesses to verify new blocks.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003c/li>\u003c/ul>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Getting this scheme to work might entail something like bittorrent-style chunking and swarming behavior, where witness fragments are propagated according to their need and best connections to other nodes with (complementary) partial state. Or, it might involve working out an alternative implementation of the state trie more amenable to witness generation. This is stuff to investigate and prototype!\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">For a much more in-depth analysis of what the trade-offs of stateful vs stateless nodes are, see Alexey Akhunov's \u003c!-- -->\u003ca target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\"chakra-link css-ug8vf0\" href=\"https://medium.com/@akhounov/the-shades-of-statefulness-in-ethereum-nodes-697b0f88cd04\">The shades of statefulness\u003c!-- -->\u003c/a>.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">An important feature of the semi-stateless approach is that these changes don't \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">necessarily\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em> imply big, hard-forking changes. Through small, testable, and incremental improvements, it's possible to build out the stateless component of Ethereum into a complementary sub-protocol, or as a series of un-controversial EIPs instead of a large 'leap-of-faith' upgrade.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003ch4 class=\"chakra-heading css-1u9mv6z\" id=\"the-roadmap-ahead\">The road(map) ahead\u003c!-- -->\u003c/h4>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The elephant in the research room is \u003c!-- -->\u003cem class=\"chakra-text css-0\">witness size\u003c!-- -->\u003c/em>. Ordinary blocks contain a header, and a list of transactions, and are on the order of 100 kB. This is small enough to make the propagation of blocks quick relative to network latency and the 15 second block time.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Witnesses, however, need to contain the hashes of nodes both at the edges and deep inside the state trie. This means they are much, much bigger: early numbers suggest on the order of 1 MB. Consequently, syncing a witness is much much slower relative to network latency and block time, which could be a problem.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">The dilemma is akin to the difference between downloading a movie or streaming it: If the network is too slow to keep up with the stream, downloading the full movie is the only workable option. If the network is much faster, the movie can be streamed with no problem. In the middle, you need more data to decide. Those with sub-par ISPs will recognize the gravity of attempting to stream a friday night movie over a network that might not be up for the task.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">This, largely, is where we start getting into the detailed problems that the Eth 1x group is tackling. Right now, not enough is known about the hypothetical witness network to know for sure it'll work properly or optimally, but the devil is in the details (and the data).\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">One line of inquiry is to think about ways to compress and reduce the size of witnesses by changing the structure of the trie itself (such as a binary trie), to make it more efficient at the implimentation level. Another is to prototype the network primitives (bittorrent-style swarming) that allow witnesses to be efficiently passed around between different nodes on the network. Both of these would benefit from a formalized witness specification -- which doesn't exist yet.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">All of these directions (and more) are being compiled into a more organized roadmap, which will be distilled and published in the coming weeks. The points highlighted on the roadmap will be topics of future deep dives.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">If you've made it this far, you should have a good idea of what \"Stateless Ethereum\" is all about, and some of the context for emerging Eth1x R&D.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">As always, if you have questions about Eth1x efforts, requests for topics, or want to contribute, come introduce yourself on ethresear.ch or reach out to \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">@gichiba\u003c/span> and/or \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">@JHancock\u003c/span> on twitter.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Special thanks to Alexey Akhunov for providing technical feedback and some of the trie diagrams.\u003c!-- -->\u003c/p>\n\u003c!-- -->\u003cp class=\"chakra-text css-gi02ar\">Happy new year, and happy Muir Glacier hardfork!\u003c!-- 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And, unsurprisingly, cryptocurrencies top the list of the most profitable investments of the decade.\nUp first, is Bitcoin. The first cryptocurrency, built by an anonymous programmer known as Satoshi Nakamoto, it led to the creation of many Bitcoin forks—alternative versions running on similar code—and thousands of altcoins, either using the same code or trying out new features. But, if you got in early, you had the chance to make a quick buck.\nSince the first bitcoin was available for trading, its price has accelerated 62,500 percent. Outshining many traditional stocks, it even spawned an entire culture built around prices \"mooning\" and the promise of lovingly labelled \"lambos.\" Due to the extreme rise, many critics have called it a Ponzi Scheme and say that its price pumps are bubbles that keep popping. But despite the criticism, an entire industry has been built around Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, leading many countries around the world to start adoption blockchain technology.\n\nMuch of the promise of blockchain technology can be seen with Ethereum. It offers features known as smart contracts, which allow for the creation of decentralized apps. These have interesting applications, particularly in the world of finance.\nThe price of Ethereum has shot up too. Even though the price has dropped heavily since its all-time high in January 2018, the price of Ethereum is still up by 17,900 percent. One ETH is currently worth $132.\n\n\nHowever, some traditional stocks have not been far off. Netflix had a strong performance this decade, rising 4,280 percent. It's not too surprising given how ubiquitous it now is. Even new films are now launching on Netflix instead of heading to the cinema. But it's epic rise has led to an increase in the number of competitor video streaming companies. Will it be able to fend off the competition going into 2020?\nAlong with the rise of Netflix, and watching TV at home in general, another company did particularly well. Domino's Pizza saw an increase in share price of 3,000 percent. Who knew pizza and TV were a winning combination?\nIn line with the trend of not needing to go outside, Amazon grew considerably in the last decade, rising 1,250 percent. It's worth noting that not only does Amazon ship products to your door but it also offers a TV streaming service. What's next, Amazon pizza?\n\nThose doing yoga, trying to work off the 1,000 calorie pizzas, helped to boost the price of Lululemon shares, a retailer known for creating activewear and clothes for \"most other sweaty pursuits.\" They rose by 1,300 percent.\nOn a different track, healthcare company Abiomed saw a 2,000 percent rise in the last decade. It creates medical devices, such as artificial hearts.\nShotly behind Amazon is NVIDIA, known for creating computer chips. Interestingly, it pulled in $1.95 billion in revenue from its crypto mining business. But it wasn't without controversy. In September, critics accused it of surreptitiously influencing the development of an upgrade to the Ethereum network. But nothing was ever proved.\nOther profitable investments of the decade were payments processors, including Mastercard and VISA, up 1,100 percent and 760 percent respectively. Google shares rose by 350 percent and Apple shares went up by 840 percent.","image":{"url":"https://cdn.decrypt.co/resize/1024/height/512/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/shutterstock_1141602005-gID_5.jpg","_id":"68307bd87982abeb1425b53f"},"html":"\u003cdiv>\u003cp>As the decade draws to a close, it's time to look at the investments that were the most successful. And, unsurprisingly, cryptocurrencies top the list of the most profitable investments of the decade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Up first, is \u003ca href=\"/?post_type=post&p=5736\" target=\"blank\">Bitcoin\u003c/a>. The first cryptocurrency, built by an anonymous programmer known as Satoshi Nakamoto, it led to the creation of many Bitcoin forks—alternative versions running on similar code—and thousands of altcoins, either using the same code or trying out new features. But, if you got in early, you had the chance to make a quick buck.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since the first bitcoin was available for trading, its price has accelerated 62,500 percent. Outshining many traditional stocks, it even spawned an entire culture built around prices "mooning" and the promise of lovingly labelled "lambos." Due to the extreme rise, many critics have called it a Ponzi Scheme and say that its price pumps are bubbles that keep popping. But despite the criticism, an entire industry has been built around Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, leading many countries around the world to start adoption blockchain technology.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Much of the promise of blockchain technology can be seen with \u003ca href=\"/?post_type=post&p=5726\" target=\"blank\">Ethereum\u003c/a>. It offers features known as \u003ca href=\"/?post_type=post&p=5723\" target=\"blank\">smart contracts\u003c/a>, which allow for the creation of \u003ca href=\"/?post_type=post&p=5728\" target=\"blank\">decentralized\u003c/a> apps. These have interesting applications, particularly in the world of finance.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The price of Ethereum has shot up too. Even though the price has dropped heavily since its all-time high in January 2018, the price of Ethereum is still up by 17,900 percent. One \u003ca href=\"https://decrypt.co/price/ethereum\" target=\"_blank\">ETH is currently worth $132\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, some traditional stocks have not been far off. Netflix had a strong performance this decade, rising 4,280 percent. It's not too surprising given how \u003cspan>ubiquitous\u003c/span> it now is. Even new films are now launching on Netflix instead of heading to the cinema. But it's epic rise has led to an increase in the number of competitor video streaming companies. Will it be able to fend off the competition going into 2020?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Along with the rise of Netflix, and watching TV at home in general, another company did particularly well. Domino's Pizza saw an increase in share price of 3,000 percent. Who knew pizza and TV were a winning combination?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In line with the trend of not needing to go outside, Amazon grew considerably in the last decade, rising 1,250 percent. It's worth noting that not only does Amazon ship products to your door but it also offers a TV streaming service. What's next, Amazon pizza?\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Those doing yoga, trying to work off the 1,000 calorie pizzas, helped to boost the price of Lululemon shares, a retailer known for creating activewear and clothes for "most other sweaty pursuits." They rose by 1,300 percent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On a different track, healthcare company Abiomed saw a 2,000 percent rise in the last decade. It creates medical devices, such as artificial hearts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shotly behind Amazon is NVIDIA, known for creating computer chips. 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An event that has gone a bit unnoticed can potentially be a game changer of sorts. Thats the launch of the Dai Savings Rate (DSR) which now provides you 4% yearly interest on tokenized dollars for doing little more than sending it to the smart contract through Oasis or some other method. \u003cimg src=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/dai-savings-stats-dec-2019-987x600.png\" alt=\"DAI savings stats, December 2019\">DAI savings stats, December 2019Some $28 million DAI is already earning interest with this being what banks would call an instant access savings account. That’s because you can withdraw the dai from the savings account whenever you want, and as soon as you do, the code automatically calculates how much interest you earned and so pays it to your ethereum address. Banks kind of do the same thing, albeit far more manually, but for the privilege of using your money, the biggest bank in UK – Barclays – gives you a meagre 0.25%, and even for $10 million it still gives you just 0.30%. \u003cimg src=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/barclays-instant-savings-account-dec-2019-1200x563.png\" alt=\"Barclays instant savings account, Dec 2019\">Barclays instant savings account, Dec 2019To borrow at the same kind of instant access level, like through a credit card, Barclays charges as much as 20%. It appears however almost none of it is passed on to savers, with this in effect being a sort of sophisticated theft. MakerDAO uses sort of the same system of passing revenue from borrowers to savers, but does so far more equitably. As you might know DAI is natively tokenized dollars whereby open source code “prints” dais based on locked eth with the price of eth incorporated through oracle feeds. For the privilege of this “printing,” a fee of 4% is paid to the dapp which converts it to MKR tokens that are burned. According to Daistats , there are some 10,000 MKR in burner, worth $4 million. Some of this “printing” fee however, known as stability fee as its intention is to keep DAI pegged to the dollar, now goes to the savers. The process is somewhat manual for now in as far as the setting of the stability fee and savings rate is concerned, but Compound does automate it so logically you’d expect eventually the dollar peg to be kept algorithmically through the automatic movement of the borrowing and savings rate based on demand and supply. In effect making this an automated bank that basically runs by itself, and since the cost is just dirt cheap code, the rewards are shared with participants rather than galloped by vampire squids. Hence DAI gives a savings rate that competes with even the Vanguard Real Estate ETF, while bank based savings accounts give absolutely nothing. Meaning the tech revolution has now began swinging as years of work start chipping and chipping at the new world. Copyrights Trustnodes.com","totalUpvotes":510,"score":515,"nReplies":57,"html":"\u003cp>\u003cem>We are being fleeced by the \u003ca href=\"https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-195229/\">vampire squids\u003c/a> on Wall Street, but perhaps not for much longer if the new world of blockchain based codable finance has any say.\u003c/em>\u003c/p> \u003cp>An event that has gone a bit unnoticed can potentially be a game changer of sorts. Thats the launch of the Dai Savings Rate (DSR) which now provides you 4% yearly interest on tokenized dollars for doing little more than \u003ca href=\"https://oasis.app/save\">sending\u003c/a> it to the smart contract through Oasis or some other method.\u003c/p> \u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg alt=\"DAI savings stats, December 2019\" src>\u003cimg src=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/dai-savings-stats-dec-2019-987x600.png\" alt=\"DAI savings stats, December 2019\">\u003cfigcaption>\u003cem>DAI savings stats, December 2019\u003c/em>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\u003cp>Some $28 million DAI is already earning interest with this being what banks would call an instant access savings account.\u003c/p> \u003cp>That’s because you can withdraw the dai from the savings account whenever you want, and as soon as you do, the code automatically calculates how much interest you earned and so pays it to your ethereum address.\u003c/p>\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\u003c/div> \u003cp>Banks kind of do the same thing, albeit far more manually, but for the privilege of using your money, the biggest bank in UK – Barclays – gives you a \u003ca href=\"https://www.barclays.co.uk/savings/instant-access/\">meagre\u003c/a> 0.25%, and even for $10 million it still gives you just 0.30%.\u003c/p>\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\u003c/div> \u003cdiv>\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\u003c/div> \u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">\u003cimg alt=\"Barclays instant savings account, Dec 2019\" src>\u003cimg src=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/barclays-instant-savings-account-dec-2019-1200x563.png\" alt=\"Barclays instant savings account, Dec 2019\">\u003cfigcaption>\u003cem>Barclays instant savings account, Dec 2019\u003c/em>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\u003cp>To borrow at the same kind of instant access level, like through a credit card, Barclays charges as much as 20%.\u003c/p> \u003cp>It appears however almost none of it is passed on to savers, with this in effect being a sort of sophisticated theft.\u003c/p> \u003cp>MakerDAO uses sort of the same system of passing revenue from borrowers to savers, but does so far more equitably.\u003c/p> \u003cp>As you might know DAI is natively tokenized dollars whereby open source code “prints” dais based on locked eth with the price of eth incorporated through oracle feeds.\u003c/p> \u003cp>For the privilege of this “printing,” a fee of 4% is paid to the dapp which converts it to MKR tokens that are burned.\u003c/p> \u003cp>According to \u003ca href=\"https://daistats.com/\">Daistats\u003c/a> , there are some 10,000 MKR in burner, worth $4 million.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Some of this “printing” fee however, known as stability fee as its intention is to keep DAI pegged to the dollar, now goes to the savers.\u003c/p> \u003cp>The process is somewhat manual for now in as far as the setting of the stability fee and savings rate is concerned, but Compound does automate it so logically you’d expect eventually the dollar peg to be kept algorithmically through the automatic movement of the borrowing and savings rate based on demand and supply.\u003c/p> \u003cp>In effect making this an automated bank that basically runs by itself, and since the cost is just dirt cheap code, the rewards are shared with participants rather than galloped by vampire squids.\u003c/p>\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\u003c/div> \u003cp>Hence DAI gives a savings rate that competes with even the Vanguard Real Estate ETF, while bank based savings accounts give absolutely nothing.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Meaning the tech revolution has now began swinging as years of work start chipping and chipping at the new world.\u003c/p> \u003cp>\u003cem>Copyrights Trustnodes.com\u003c/em>\u003c/p> \u003cdiv>\u003c/div> \u003cdiv>\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003c/div> \u003cdiv>\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>","type":"ghost","description":"We are being fleeced by the vampire squids on Wall Street, but perhaps not for much longer if the new world of blockchain based codable finance has any say. 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Ledger has gone mobile.\nThe crypto wallet company revealed its new, Bluetooth-enabled Nano X device Sunday at the annual Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas.\nThe added Bluetooth means that the Nano X can readily be used with mobile devices, which has been a pain point for many users of the company’s current wallet, the Ledger S. Much of the world primarily uses mobile computing, never or very seldom touching laptops or desktop computers.\n“The fact that we have a mobile application and it works with the Nano X is really the big evolution of the hardware for this lineup,” Ledger CEO Eric Larchevêque told CoinDesk during a demonstration of the device.\nBy connecting the Nano X via Bluetooth, it’s possible to have the security of Ledger but with mobile’s form factor, Larchevêque said. (Ledger devices store keys but an external application on a computing device is needed to write and send transactions.)\nWhen we spoke to Larchevêque, he wasn’t ready to commit to a price for the Nano X but he did say that when it goes live, the price of the Nano S will drop (it currently sells for $69.99). According to the Ledger website, more than 1.3 million Nano S devices have been sold. (Update: Company reps tell CoinDesk the Nano X will retail for $119 in the U.S. and 119 euros in Europe.)\nThere’s more to the new device, too. It has a slightly bigger screen, for example. (With such a tiny screen, every extra pixel helps with usability.) The screen is important because Ledger’s approach to security requires that a lot of actions are made on the hardware device itself.\n“It’s a more advanced device,” Larchevêque said of the Nano X.\nThe Ledger Live mobile app will be available on Google Play and iTunes on Jan. 28, according to Ledger.\nMany apps\nTo that end, it also has a lot more memory.\nMemory might not seem that important for a hardware wallet. After all, it’s just storing public private key pairs for each cryptocurrency a user holds, right?\nWrong. It turns out that as new tokens make the whole crypto ecosystem more complex, it becomes necessary for different software to interact with different protocols. To maintain Ledger’s high security standards, the company made the decision that each protocol has to have its own app for sending and receiving coins.\n“We have lots of third-party developers who are developing applications,” Larchevêque told CoinDesk. “We want to make sure that these applications can only sign transactions for their own private key.”\nThis has an additional benefit, Larchevêque said. It means that a user with one app open can’t accidentally sign a transaction to the wrong protocol.\nThe Ledger Nano X can store the apps for up to 100 crypto assets, a six-fold increase over the Nano S.\nVegas, baby\nLedger is making a statement by revealing its new device at CES.\n“It’s true that CES is not a crypto show,” Larchevêque said, acknowledging that his company has left the blockchain bubble with this appearance, but he points out that Ledger has gotten into the hands of too many users at this point to still be viewed as a niche device.\nCES seems to have welcomed the French company into the broader world of consumer electronics. According to a press release from Ledger, CES awarded the Nano X with its 2019 “Innovation Award in Cyber Security and Personal Privacy.”\nLarchevêque said:\n“When you have more than a million customers you are really in consumer electronics.”\nCorrection: The release date for the Ledger Live mobile app is Jan. 28, not Jan. 16, as was listed in an earlier press release from Ledger. The article has been updated with the correct release date.\n ","html":"\u003cp>Ledger has gone mobile.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The crypto wallet company revealed its new, Bluetooth-enabled Nano X device Sunday at the annual Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The added Bluetooth means that the Nano X can readily be used with mobile devices, which has been a pain point for many users of the company’s current wallet, the Ledger S. Much of the world primarily uses mobile computing, never or very seldom touching laptops or desktop computers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“The fact that we have a mobile application and it works with the Nano X is really the big evolution of the hardware for this lineup,” Ledger CEO Eric Larchevêque told CoinDesk during a demonstration of the device.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By connecting the Nano X via Bluetooth, it’s possible to have the security of Ledger but with mobile’s form factor, Larchevêque said. (Ledger devices store keys but an external application on a computing device is needed to write and send transactions.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When we spoke to Larchevêque, he wasn’t ready to commit to a price for the Nano X but he did say that when it goes live, the price of the Nano S will drop (it currently sells for $69.99). According to the Ledger website, more than 1.3 million Nano S devices have been sold. (Update: Company reps tell CoinDesk the Nano X will retail for $119 in the U.S. and 119 euros in Europe.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There’s more to the new device, too. It has a slightly bigger screen, for example. (With such a tiny screen, every extra pixel helps with usability.) The screen is important because Ledger’s approach to security requires that a lot of actions are made on the hardware device itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s a more advanced device,” Larchevêque said of the Nano X.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Ledger Live mobile app will be available on Google Play and iTunes on Jan. 28, according to Ledger.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Many apps\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>To that end, it also has a lot more memory.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Memory might not seem that important for a hardware wallet. After all, it’s just storing \u003ca href=\"https://www.nas.nasa.gov/hecc/support/kb/publicprivate-key-pairs_33.html\" target=\"_blank\">public private key pairs\u003c/a> for each cryptocurrency a user holds, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Wrong. It turns out that as new tokens make the whole crypto ecosystem more complex, it becomes necessary for different software to interact with different protocols. To maintain Ledger’s high security standards, the company made the decision that each protocol has to have its own app for sending and receiving coins.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“We have lots of third-party developers who are developing applications,” Larchevêque told CoinDesk. “We want to make sure that these applications can only sign transactions for their own private key.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This has an additional benefit, Larchevêque said. It means that a user with one app open can’t accidentally sign a transaction to the wrong protocol.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Ledger Nano X can store the apps for up to 100 crypto assets, a six-fold increase over the Nano S.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Vegas, baby\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>Ledger is making a statement by revealing its new device at CES.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“It’s true that CES is not a crypto show,” Larchevêque said, acknowledging that his company has left the blockchain bubble with this appearance, but he points out that Ledger has gotten into the hands of too many users at this point to still be viewed as a niche device.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CES seems to have welcomed the French company into the broader world of consumer electronics. 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Only one screen :) \u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_edhqdxj","source":"reddit.com","added":"2019-01-08T08:05:17.352Z","replyTo":"t1_edhq7fy","timely":true,"updates":14,"time":1546885372000,"first":1546887921165,"root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_edhqdxj"},"t1_edhq7fy":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"DecentralisedCrypto","replies":["t1_edhqdxj"],"directReplies":["t1_edhqdxj"],"upvotes":1,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"nano","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":0.5}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1},"nano":{"topic":"nano","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":0.5}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"> Moreover, on the Nano X screens and buttons are directly connected to the Secure Element (single chip architecture), which is also an enhancement of the general security design.\n\nYou mean screen and not screens though right?","html":"\u003cblockquote>\n\u003cp>Moreover, on the Nano X screens and buttons are directly connected to the Secure Element (single chip architecture), which is also an enhancement of the general security design.\u003c/p>\n\u003c/blockquote>\n\n\u003cp>You mean screen and not screens though right?\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_edhq7fy","source":"reddit.com","added":"2019-01-08T08:05:17.352Z","replyTo":"t1_edg3dws","timely":true,"updates":14,"time":1546885276000,"first":1546887921165,"root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_edhq7fy"},"t1_edhq75y":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"sakerworks","replies":["t1_edid7x9"],"directReplies":["t1_edid7x9"],"upvotes":1,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"Pre-order is available for $119.00 USD and ships March. 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Just like the Trezor model T. Who ever said it couldnt be split accross two lines?\n\nWhen I asked if the address could fit on the screen or not I never said it has to be in a straight line. Why do you assume it has to be in a straight line? The only requirement is that you can see the whole address at one time without the address scrolling in and out of sight accross the screen.\n\n","html":"\u003cp>Of course it will be split. Just like the Trezor model T. Who ever said it couldnt be split accross two lines?\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>When I asked if the address could fit on the screen or not I never said it has to be in a straight line. Why do you assume it has to be in a straight line? 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This was done to mitigate MITM attack vectors","html":"\u003cp>In the meantime I have spoken to a ledger staff member and they have confirmed the Nano X screen will fit an entire address at once without scrolling. 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I'll wait until it has been put thru more testing and a good discount.","html":"That's nice but more fancy features might create security holes. I'll wait until it has been put thru more testing and a good discount.","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"1082295135055110144","source":"twitter.com","added":"2019-01-07T15:23:02.400Z","favorites":0,"url":"https://twitter.com/TheShitcoiner/status/1082295135055110144","replyTo":"1082209595479769089","timely":true,"channel":["crypto"],"updates":2,"time":1546874242000,"first":1546874282379,"root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","type":"tweet","origin":"","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"1082295135055110144","icon":"twitter"},"t1_edh689k":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"yevinorion","replies":[],"directReplies":[],"upvotes":1,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"Yeah, I treat my Ledger as a hodling wallet. When I do eventually get an X, I'll probably set it up as a separate wallet to secure my \"on the go\" funds.\n\nAnd don't feel bad on the spending, I had one from earlier this year and then bought a second as a backup during the sale!","html":"\u003cp>Yeah, I treat my Ledger as a hodling wallet. 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The nano s is all I need in a cold storage hardware wallet, and is already battle tested and trusted. ","html":"\u003cp>I'm not upgrading yet. The nano s is all I need in a cold storage hardware wallet, and is already battle tested and trusted. \u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_edgicng","source":"reddit.com","added":"2019-01-08T08:05:17.352Z","replyTo":"t1_edgd114","timely":true,"updates":23,"time":1546850751000,"first":1546855518825,"root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_edgicng"},"1082194997917540352":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"Brekkie von Bitcoin ⚡️ [GIVING AWAY LÖLZ] @CryptoBrekkie","replies":["1082292671408832518","1082285285604352002"],"directReplies":["1082285285604352002"],"upvotes":3.5,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[{"_id":"1082080093487460353","type":"quote"}],"referrals":[],"content":"LedgerX is exciting, but the most important part of this article is that @LedgerHQ is debuting the X at CES. \n\nThe world will be watching. 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More people will learn about crypto.\u003cbr>\u003cbr>This is great for the space.✌🏻❤️🚀 ","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"1082194997917540352","channel":[null],"added":"2019-03-08T11:56:05.466Z","source":"twitter.com","updates":1,"time":1546850368000,"first":1552046165466,"favorites":7,"url":"https://twitter.com/CryptoBrekkie/status/1082194997917540352","replyTo":"1082080093487460353","replyType":"quote","root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","type":"tweet","origin":"","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"1082194997917540352","icon":"twitter"},"t1_edgi0di":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"viper2097","replies":[],"directReplies":[],"upvotes":7,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"nano","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1},"nano":{"topic":"nano","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"The bluetooth doesnt need to be secure just like the cable you plug your nano S into or the computer you use or the internet connection doesn't need to be secure. \n\nThe Ledger Nano X assumes that the bluetooth ISNT secure... 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I'm hoping Bluetooth 5, or at least 4.2, for the latest security updates to the Bluetooth protocol.","html":"\u003cp>What version of Bluetooth does the Nano X support? I'm hoping Bluetooth 5, or at least 4.2, for the latest security updates to the Bluetooth protocol.\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_edghd2k","updates":1,"time":1546849318000,"first":1618978497829,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2021-04-21T04:14:57.829Z","replyTo":"t3_adcabb","replyType":"reply","root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","origin":"","type":"comment","url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/adcabb/_/edghd2k","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_edghd2k"},"t1_edghcop":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"lepton99","replies":[],"directReplies":[],"upvotes":1,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[{"_id":"st.com/en/secure-mcus/st33-arm-sc300.html?querycriteria=productId=SC1282","url":"https://www.st.com/en/secure-mcus/st33-arm-sc300.html?querycriteria=productId%3DSC1282","type":"reference","score":0.9032370261923913},{"_id":"t1_edgf06a","type":"reply"}],"referrals":[],"content":"That's GREAT news! Can you share which one specifically?\n\n[https://www.st.com/en/secure-mcus/st33-arm-sc300.html?querycriteria=productId=SC1282](https://www.st.com/en/secure-mcus/st33-arm-sc300.html?querycriteria=productId=SC1282)\n\n\n\nHow about the SDK, is it already available?","html":"\u003cp>That's GREAT news! Can you share which one specifically?\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.st.com/en/secure-mcus/st33-arm-sc300.html?querycriteria=productId=SC1282\">https://www.st.com/en/secure-mcus/st33-arm-sc300.html?querycriteria=productId=SC1282\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>How about the SDK, is it already available?\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_edghcop","updates":1,"time":1546849304000,"first":1618978497829,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2021-04-21T04:14:57.829Z","replyTo":"t1_edgf06a","replyType":"reply","root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_edghcop"},"1082190334359146497":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"BLOCKT3CH @blockt3ch","replies":[],"directReplies":[],"upvotes":0.5,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"nano","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},"nano":{"topic":"nano","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[{"_id":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","url":"https://www.coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","type":"reference"}],"referrals":[],"content":"Ledger Crypto Wallet Goes Mobile With Bluetooth-Ready Nano X https://www.coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x via @CoinDesk","html":"Ledger Crypto Wallet Goes Mobile With Bluetooth-Ready Nano X \u003ca href=\"https://www.coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x\" title=\"https://www.coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x\">coindesk.com/le…\u003c/a> via \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">@CoinDesk\u003c/span>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"1082190334359146497","source":"twitter.com","added":"2019-01-07T09:13:02.277Z","favorites":1,"url":"https://twitter.com/blockt3ch/status/1082190334359146497","timely":true,"channel":["crypto"],"updates":11,"time":1546849256000,"first":1546849381985,"replyTo":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","replyType":"reference","root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","type":"tweet","origin":"","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"1082190334359146497","icon":"twitter"},"t1_edghamd":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"4745454B","replies":["t1_edglnp6","t1_edgmjty"],"directReplies":["t1_edglnp6"],"upvotes":4,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"btc","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1},"btc":{"topic":"btc","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1},"eth":{"topic":"eth","activity":0,"score":0,"relativeScore":0}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"I wonder how long it will take for mobile phone manufacturers to expand their security enclave systems to support crypto currency private keys?\n\nRight now these separate ledger devices have a market niche, since for example Apple Secure Enclave supports only Elliptic curve private keys. But sooner or later vendors are going to add ledger like general purpose key storage.","html":"\u003cp>I wonder how long it will take for mobile phone manufacturers to expand their security enclave systems to support crypto currency private keys?\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Right now these separate ledger devices have a market niche, since for example Apple Secure Enclave supports only Elliptic curve private keys. But sooner or later vendors are going to add ledger like general purpose key storage.\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_edghamd","source":"reddit.com","added":"2019-01-07T16:05:13.286Z","replyTo":"t3_add2au","timely":true,"updates":7,"time":1546849226000,"first":1546855513896,"root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_edghamd"},"t1_edgh700":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"statharasst","replies":[],"directReplies":[],"upvotes":1,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"Wow! 😁🤟","html":"\u003cp>Wow! 😁🤟\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_edgh700","updates":1,"time":1546849090000,"first":1618978497829,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2021-04-21T04:14:57.829Z","replyTo":"t3_adcabb","replyType":"reply","root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","origin":"","type":"comment","url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/adcabb/_/edgh700","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_edgh700"},"t1_edgh5zs":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"FortuitousIdiom","replies":["t1_edgn366","t1_edgmjrj","t1_edgrjtj"],"directReplies":["t1_edgmjrj","t1_edgrjtj"],"upvotes":1,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"btc","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1},"btc":{"topic":"btc","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[{"_id":"wallet.fail","url":"http://wallet.fail","type":"reference","score":0},{"_id":"t1_edgdpw3","type":"reply"}],"referrals":[],"content":"As improbable as the hack would be to pull off, they still managed to find a vulnerability in the Ledger. That's pretty impressive. Independent review by security researchers who say, \"We did our best, this is what we found\" and having it be kind of underwhelming is actually *reassuring*. \n\nI don't know why hardware wallets aren't released with a rating or seal of approval from security researchers. People are expected to trust them with a significant amount of money, not sure what their process is but putting their product to the test before it comes to market, rather than customers finding out after the fact from security researchers or worse being subject to a hack, doesn't seem unreasonable.\n\nMy hope is that one day a wallet manufacturer will actively partner with people like Saleem or the wallet.fail trio and have the R&D process be like a friendly competitive game. I'd probably watch it on YT if they'd stream it. At the end the consumer has one team, \"We designed it...and redesigned it,\" and another team, \"We kept fucking it up...until we couldn't\" that results in a really great device that has been put to the test by the best.\n\nI'd pay 200 for that device without blinking, could push it to 250 before I'd have to think about it. Brand identity means little compared to independent review. Safety, security, peace of mind is what I'm buying, not just a widget.","html":"\u003cp>As improbable as the hack would be to pull off, they still managed to find a vulnerability in the Ledger. That's pretty impressive. Independent review by security researchers who say, "We did our best, this is what we found" and having it be kind of underwhelming is actually \u003cem>reassuring\u003c/em>. \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>I don't know why hardware wallets aren't released with a rating or seal of approval from security researchers. People are expected to trust them with a significant amount of money, not sure what their process is but putting their product to the test before it comes to market, rather than customers finding out after the fact from security researchers or worse being subject to a hack, doesn't seem unreasonable.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>My hope is that one day a wallet manufacturer will actively partner with people like Saleem or the wallet.fail trio and have the R&D process be like a friendly competitive game. I'd probably watch it on YT if they'd stream it. At the end the consumer has one team, "We designed it...and redesigned it," and another team, "We kept fucking it up...until we couldn't" that results in a really great device that has been put to the test by the best.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>I'd pay 200 for that device without blinking, could push it to 250 before I'd have to think about it. Brand identity means little compared to independent review. 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How does adding bluetooth make this unsecured? I would like you to actually TELL me a SINGLE thing that could go wrong... \n\t\t\t\n\nGuys, I know it's reddit and when we don't understand something, it makes us feel stupid so we downvote it but if you don't mind, Could the guys downvoting me please tell me how im actually wrong?\n\n\n\nI'm all for educating people but I'm not infallible, I'm just as happy being wrong as being right because it means I learn something so boys, Could you please actually add something instead of just throwing a thumbs down? Cheers :)","html":"\u003cp>Ledger wallet has always assumed that the cable connecting it to the computer was compromised, The Computer being used is full of malware, The internet connection is being monitored and the website like MEW has been compromised too! How does adding bluetooth make this unsecured? 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I think it is not a cold storage wallet.","html":"\u003cp>Bluetooth?! I think it is not a cold storage wallet.\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_edg4lpo","source":"reddit.com","added":"2019-01-07T16:05:13.286Z","replyTo":"t3_add2au","timely":true,"updates":11,"time":1546835609000,"first":1546837513444,"root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_edg4lpo"},"t1_edg4hrb":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"Not_A_Taco","replies":["t1_edg5zl1","t1_edg4z4g","t1_edgav2y"],"directReplies":["t1_edg4z4g"],"upvotes":8,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":32,"score":32,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":32,"score":32,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":32,"score":32,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":32,"score":32,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"Interesting, thanks for the reply. I figured if this was my immediate thought, y'all had already handled it. \n\nIf you don't mind my asking, does this also mean that the traffic is encrypted, other than the encryption BLE uses? I'm just thinking of the scenario where you want to send to address X, I intercept, change it to address Y, and forward the packet. A lot of people probably won't double check that the address is correct on the ledger.\n\nThanks again for the reply, great seeing you here to answer questions; I love my ledger btw!","html":"\u003cp>Interesting, thanks for the reply. I figured if this was my immediate thought, y'all had already handled it. \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>If you don't mind my asking, does this also mean that the traffic is encrypted, other than the encryption BLE uses? I'm just thinking of the scenario where you want to send to address X, I intercept, change it to address Y, and forward the packet. 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What could go wrong? \u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_edg4b7b","source":"reddit.com","added":"2019-01-08T08:05:17.352Z","replyTo":"t3_adcbs1","timely":true,"updates":27,"time":1546835379000,"first":1546837518299,"root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_edg4b7b"},"t1_edg46ci":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"PM_UR_BOOTY_IN_JEANS","replies":["t1_edgakao","t1_edga3am","t1_edg7l7v","t1_edgaq96","t1_edgasth","t1_edgsny5"],"directReplies":["t1_edg7l7v","t1_edgaq96","t1_edgsny5"],"upvotes":57,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":77,"score":78,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":77,"score":78,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"nano","activity":57,"score":58,"relativeScore":0.74}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":77,"score":78,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":77,"score":78,"relativeScore":1},"nano":{"topic":"nano","activity":57,"score":58,"relativeScore":0.74}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"With Ledger Nano Roadster coming in 2020","html":"\u003cp>With Ledger Nano Roadster coming in 2020\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_edg46ci","source":"reddit.com","added":"2019-01-08T08:05:17.352Z","replyTo":"t1_edfvk2x","timely":true,"updates":27,"time":1546835269000,"first":1546837518299,"root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_edg46ci"},"t1_edg3ybd":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"BestServerNA","replies":["t1_edga9da","t1_edg90ah","t1_edgcxbk"],"directReplies":["t1_edg90ah"],"upvotes":9,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":37,"score":37,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":37,"score":37,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":37,"score":37,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":37,"score":37,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"Cold storage should always be kept simple, offline with minimal interaction, there's really no need for an advanced UX","html":"\u003cp>Cold storage should always be kept simple, offline with minimal interaction, there's really no need for an advanced UX\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_edg3ybd","source":"reddit.com","added":"2019-01-08T00:05:18.392Z","replyTo":"t1_edg3s8a","timely":true,"updates":19,"time":1546835094000,"first":1546837518299,"root":"coindesk.com/ledger-crypto-wallet-goes-mobile-with-bluetooth-ready-nano-x","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-05-23T13:46:09.261Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_edg3ybd"},"t1_edg3tr5":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"BowsersaurusRex","replies":["t1_edg4tov"],"directReplies":["t1_edg4tov"],"upvotes":18,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":21,"score":21,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":21,"score":21,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":21,"score":21,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":21,"score":21,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"That's my point. They're already assuming the connection is insecure and that a Mitm attack is not only possible but likely. Private keys never leave the device.","html":"\u003cp>That's my point. They're already assuming the connection is insecure and that a Mitm attack is not only possible but likely. 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What this could possibly allow is also keeping some smaller quantities for spending in cold storage instead of on a mobile wallet while you are out and about. This would make it convenient enough to spend, with the added step of pressing the Ledger button to confirm the transaction, but with better security. You could connect to your phone as a WIFI hotspot avoiding use of public WIFI. Like I already mentioned, I also would hope there is an option to turn the Bluetooth on and off.","html":"\u003cp>I agree that adding more features including Bluetooth could introduce new attack vectors. What this could possibly allow is also keeping some smaller quantities for spending in cold storage instead of on a mobile wallet while you are out and about. This would make it convenient enough to spend, with the added step of pressing the Ledger button to confirm the transaction, but with better security. You could connect to your phone as a WIFI hotspot avoiding use of public WIFI. 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My point of contention is having an app that can send transactions. At some point, some sensitive information(private key/Tx addr/etc) needs to be relayed and Bluetooth's encryption is actually worthless. I think the solution is to just have the ledger generated a shared key and not send that over the air; or something along those lines. Again, we need to know the implementation details to be sure. I'm pretty sure everyone working on this smarter than me, so I'm not really worried.\n\nAlso, side note, I'm fairly certain this will use BLE, not Bluetooth.","html":"\u003cp>With Bluetooth it's possible to do MitM attacks. My point of contention is having an app that can send transactions. At some point, some sensitive information(private key/Tx addr/etc) needs to be relayed and Bluetooth's encryption is actually worthless. I think the solution is to just have the ledger generated a shared key and not send that over the air; or something along those lines. 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The addition of BLE doesn't impact the security model. Transactions must always be physically verified on device by pressing both buttons. Moreover, on the Nano X screens and buttons are directly connected to the Secure Element (single chip architecture), which is also an enhancement of the general security design.","html":"\u003cp>The Nano X operates with the assumption that the Bluetooth connection (which is a bearer, exactly like USB) is compromised. The addition of BLE doesn't impact the security model. Transactions must always be physically verified on device by pressing both buttons. 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I was debating buying a Nano S this weekend but after seeing this it looks like I’ll probably wait. ","html":"\u003cp>Cool. 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Would it be possible to sit in a café scanning BT devices and watching, wait for someone to power up their device, determine which address belongs to them and perform some cyber voodoo? Is it possible for someone scanning BT devices to determine that someone in their vicinity has a ledger? \n\nI almost wonder if this is meant more as a daily driver, something that makes some security concessions in favor of usability as an ultra-secure hot wallet (tepid wallet?...ghastly term XD). Anyway, I can speculate all day long, but I should probably just wait for their official announcement.","html":"\u003cp>I'm not well informed about Bluetooth because I almost never use it, but when I have turned it on I see a mess of different devices' addresses. Would it be possible to sit in a café scanning BT devices and watching, wait for someone to power up their device, determine which address belongs to them and perform some cyber voodoo? 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User can see wrong key presses no, proxy send yes, secure chip generates tx. Bye bye btc.\n\nIf you see wrong adress better disconnect ledger without pressing any key.\n\n\nSo maybe hmm once proxy gets msg from phone/PC it just sends to secure chip that yes was pressed.\n\n\nHmm I think I will hold with buying till ledger says they fixed the exposed vulnerability.","html":"\u003cp>Bluetooth cant be exploited if you cant update firmware over bluetooth .\nAnd you need to accept conection to some device.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>I hope the foodbabe is fixed, more RAM would give more place to fake screen message, from chip to screen. \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Still i think that faking both buttons to do yes message for confirmation would be easiest to do. User can see wrong key presses no, proxy send yes, secure chip generates tx. 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Assuming a typical 250 byte txn, that will produce 37.5GB of blockchain data per day, or 260MB blocks.\n\nSSD cost per gb is now ~~$0.68~~ $0.10, meaning that it would cost only about ~~$25/day~~ $5/day to store the Visa-scale blockchain at today's SSD prices. There are probably millions of businesses which spend more than that every day on non-dairy creamer and stir-sticks for their in-office coffee service. This doesn't even take into account the space savings that can be had from checkpointing and pruning or the fact that prices will continue to drop for the foreseeable future. \n\nAdditionally, [according to techcompetitor.com](https://www.telecompetitor.com/gigabit-availability-report-1-in-5-people-worldwide-can-get-1-gbps-broadband/), 354 million people across 51 countries already have access to gigabit internet, with millions of new customers being added daily. That's far more than enough potential node sites to offer impenetrable decentralization at Visa scale.\n\nFinally, the technology currently being built by BCH (specifically [xthinner and blocktorrent](https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/afeput/xthinnerblocktorrent_development_status_update)) as well as optimizing mempool admission will enable blocks this big, and probably bigger.\n\nBut what about Visa's legendary \"26,000 tps\" burst capacity, you might ask? \n\nFirst, please recall that Visa \"transaction approval\" is **NOT** equivalent to bitcoin block inclusion. Inclusion in a block represents *settlement,* which typically takes a matter of days on Visa. Instead, a Visa transaction approval is closer to a \"zero-conf\" payment on BCH. This just means that your transaction has been seen by some number of nodes.\n\nIt is unclear what BCH's \"zero-conf burst capacity\" would be. It really depends on how fast mempool inclusion can be bursted. I'll leave that to the engineers to explain, but it would clearly be higher than 1700 tps.\n\nTLDR: BCH is one order-of-magnitude capacity bump from being able to credibly claim that it can achieve \"Visa scale.\"\n\nEdit: corrected bad ssd pricing\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\nTo anyone who thinks that it isn't important that BCH achieve \"visa scale\" because it's currently so underutilized, I couldn't disagree more strongly.\n\nBy now, millions of people have been conditioned by hundreds of \"experts\" to believe that Bitcoin-as-Cash is a flawed application because \"everyone knows that blockchain can't scale.\"\n\nIt's a groupthink that has been reinforced by thousands of articles and social media posts, and it cannot be argued away with any amount of reasoning. It must be doused in the gasoline of reality and lit ablaze to die a fiery death. **We have to build it and show them conclusively that they are wrong.** Nothing less will do.","image":{"url":"https://external-preview.redd.it/I-RA7E0V19yHGSPOApu57TNJgDCH3SO4oliCQOIExu8.jpg?auto=webp&s=129980496e9bbe2c819d1003fa4aa2a835122bf4","width":1600,"height":900,"_id":"68307dd97982abeb1425b5b3"},"html":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://usa.visa.com/run-your-business/small-business-tools/retail.html\">According to Visa\u003c/a>, they process about 150M txns per pay (1700 tps). Assuming a typical 250 byte txn, that will produce 37.5GB of blockchain data per day, or 260MB blocks.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>SSD cost per gb is now \u003cdel>$0.68\u003c/del> $0.10, meaning that it would cost only about \u003cdel>$25/day\u003c/del> $5/day to store the Visa-scale blockchain at today's SSD prices. There are probably millions of businesses which spend more than that every day on non-dairy creamer and stir-sticks for their in-office coffee service. This doesn't even take into account the space savings that can be had from checkpointing and pruning or the fact that prices will continue to drop for the foreseeable future. \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Additionally, \u003ca href=\"https://www.telecompetitor.com/gigabit-availability-report-1-in-5-people-worldwide-can-get-1-gbps-broadband/\">according to techcompetitor.com\u003c/a>, 354 million people across 51 countries already have access to gigabit internet, with millions of new customers being added daily. That's far more than enough potential node sites to offer impenetrable decentralization at Visa scale.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Finally, the technology currently being built by BCH (specifically \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/afeput/xthinnerblocktorrent_development_status_update\">xthinner and blocktorrent\u003c/a>) as well as optimizing mempool admission will enable blocks this big, and probably bigger.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>But what about Visa's legendary "26,000 tps" burst capacity, you might ask? \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>First, please recall that Visa "transaction approval" is \u003cstrong>NOT\u003c/strong> equivalent to bitcoin block inclusion. Inclusion in a block represents \u003cem>settlement,\u003c/em> which typically takes a matter of days on Visa. Instead, a Visa transaction approval is closer to a "zero-conf" payment on BCH. This just means that your transaction has been seen by some number of nodes.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>It is unclear what BCH's "zero-conf burst capacity" would be. It really depends on how fast mempool inclusion can be bursted. I'll leave that to the engineers to explain, but it would clearly be higher than 1700 tps.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>TLDR: BCH is one order-of-magnitude capacity bump from being able to credibly claim that it can achieve "Visa scale."\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Edit: corrected bad ssd pricing\u003c/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\u003cbr class=\"merged\">\u003cbr>\u003cp>To anyone who thinks that it isn't important that BCH achieve "visa scale" because it's currently so underutilized, I couldn't disagree more strongly.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>By now, millions of people have been conditioned by hundreds of "experts" to believe that Bitcoin-as-Cash is a flawed application because "everyone knows that blockchain can't scale."\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>It's a groupthink that has been reinforced by thousands of articles and social media posts, and it cannot be argued away with any amount of reasoning. It must be doused in the gasoline of reality and lit ablaze to die a fiery death. \u003cstrong>We have to build it and show them conclusively that they are wrong.\u003c/strong> Nothing less will do.\u003c/p>","timely":true,"totalUpvotes":310,"score":500,"nReplies":53,"replyTo":"telecompetitor.com/gigabit-availability-report-1-in-5-people-worldwide-can-get-1-gbps-broadband","replyType":"reference","origin":"in r/btc","type":"rpost","merged":true,"favorites":null,"__at":"2025-05-23T13:53:29.671Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t3_kmdf2r","icon":"reddit"},"t3_kmhavp":{"original":{"subreddit_name_prefixed":"r/btc","pwls":6,"downs":0,"parent_whitelist_status":"all_ads","upvote_ratio":0.94,"is_original_content":false,"author_fullname":"t2_rkhrk","score":58,"post_hint":"self","is_self":true,"wls":6,"domain":"self.btc","allow_live_comments":false,"preview":{"images":[{"source":{"url":"https://external-preview.redd.it/1yC_vJyMKq4-fwYnp1_N66JylLhC0QCtKc-4ALQ7Dnk.jpg?auto=webp&s=84d551bf324ca582b9b5e9b692522031385da9ee","width":300,"height":300},"resolutions":[{"url":"https://external-preview.redd.it/1yC_vJyMKq4-fwYnp1_N66JylLhC0QCtKc-4ALQ7Dnk.jpg?width=108&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=ca35f3ef18eedc611af3f821212049daa1a7c968","width":108,"height":108},{"url":"https://external-preview.redd.it/1yC_vJyMKq4-fwYnp1_N66JylLhC0QCtKc-4ALQ7Dnk.jpg?width=216&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=29e5da396e69e0181e22c0c3bf850da80d7c9807","width":216,"height":216}],"id":"uZo-5UID5HOKMDmpi_tQ4Ag6ItMLeZu_xdIu7nTEr-8"}],"enabled":false},"all_awardings":[],"awarders":[],"treatment_tags":[],"is_robot_indexable":true,"num_duplicates":0,"num_comments":56,"send_replies":true,"whitelist_status":"all_ads","subreddit_subscribers":508401,"ghostFetched":true},"title":"\"Blockstream: Can't be evil\" 7 years later, Blockstream has done exactly that","author":"btcxio","replies":["t1_gheyomi","t1_ghey5s3","t1_ghf2kra","t1_ghf1zen","t1_ghezdjx","t1_ghf39zh","t1_ghfa596","t1_ghf9gts","t1_ghf89sl","t1_ghf7nxv","t1_ghf7yez","t1_ghf74j0","t1_ghf63oq","t1_ghf43zn","t1_ghf3k2w","t1_ghf6z4m","t1_ghf5enh","t1_ghfd3mw","t1_ghfcgc1","t1_ghfc10z","t1_ghfgobt","t1_ghfgctk","t1_ghfac95","t1_ghfb3yw","t1_ghfap3r","t1_ghfaxqi","t1_ghfh73l","t1_ghfhdwt","t1_ghfep6b","t1_ghfe5dy","t1_ghfdkce","t1_ghfafdd","t1_ghfd9l5","t1_ghfi2gl","t1_ghfka0s","t1_ghfhyr8","t1_ghfi6cy","t1_ghfib2v","t1_ghfj7cm","t1_ghfvqbo","t1_ghfqalj","t1_ghfwxna","t1_ghg1tl5","t1_ghgb6vf","t1_ghgk4ku","t1_ghgr3gu","t1_ghgo0oe","t1_ghgu9re","t1_ghh04vg","t1_ghh2a4z","t1_ghhchge","t1_ghhcm4s","t1_ghhe9oa","t1_ghhcnwm","t1_ghhqd1y"],"directReplies":["t1_ghey5s3","t1_ghezdjx","t1_ghfd9l5","t1_ghfqalj","t1_ghgk4ku","t1_ghh04vg"],"upvotes":58,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":548,"score":554,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":366,"score":370,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"btc","activity":250,"score":252,"relativeScore":0.68},{"topic":"bch","activity":116,"score":118,"relativeScore":0.32}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":548,"score":554,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":366,"score":370,"relativeScore":1},"btc":{"topic":"btc","activity":250,"score":252,"relativeScore":0.68},"bch":{"topic":"bch","activity":116,"score":118,"relativeScore":0.32}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[{"_id":"bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=335658.0","url":"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=335658.0","type":"reference"},{"_id":"archive.is/hG4zo","url":"https://archive.is/hG4zo","type":"reference","score":0.004936384245113071},{"_id":"archive.is/hG4zo/2501201b23b42780a27dc6e8f77f82e19cce90cc.jpg","url":"https://archive.is/hG4zo/2501201b23b42780a27dc6e8f77f82e19cce90cc.jpg","type":"reference","score":0.0013043327022792602}],"referrals":[],"_id":"t3_kmhavp","updates":19,"time":1609258559000,"first":1609261510240,"source":"reddit.com","url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/kmhavp/blockstream_cant_be_evil_7_years_later/","added":"2021-04-23T16:57:17.275Z","content":"December 2013: Adam Back flew to Montreal to recruit Austin Hill to join him in a vision for the future of blockchain. A month later standing in front of the whiteboard, Adam laid out his vision for Bitcoin and blockchain technology. On the whiteboard, it was written that Blockstream “Can’t be evil.” \n\nDecember 2020: 7 years later, we can see that Blockstream has done exactly that. Adam Back wasted no time after entering the Bitcoin market at the height of the frenzy in November 2013. He saw a big opportunity to seize the protocol, and took advantage of that as quickly as he could. He then did everything in his power to make Bitcoin his invention, and not Satoshi's. \n\nThere is a reason why people think Adam Back is Satoshi. It's because for 7 years now, he has done everything he could to take over power of the protocol and claim it is his. From silly things like saying Bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control, to forming a multi-million dollar company to hire all the BTC devs he could find early on so he could rewire the protocol to what he wanted it to be. \n\nThere's no coincidence that in 2012-2013 Bitcoin was already being [subverted by government agents](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=335658.0) working with BTC core devs like Peter Todd, Greg Maxwell, Warren Togami, and Theymos, to keep the blocks small so that Blockstream can take over. Adam Back had a clear relationship with these folks, and they all joined together in a huge power move that was launched with massive censorship and manipulation to trick people into thinking they aren't evil. \n\nhttps://archive.is/hG4zo\n\nhttps://archive.is/hG4zo/2501201b23b42780a27dc6e8f77f82e19cce90cc.jpg\n\nThe rest is history.","image":{"url":"https://external-preview.redd.it/1yC_vJyMKq4-fwYnp1_N66JylLhC0QCtKc-4ALQ7Dnk.jpg?auto=webp&s=84d551bf324ca582b9b5e9b692522031385da9ee","width":300,"height":300,"_id":"68307dd97982abeb1425b5b4"},"html":"\u003cp>December 2013: Adam Back flew to Montreal to recruit Austin Hill to join him in a vision for the future of blockchain. A month later standing in front of the whiteboard, Adam laid out his vision for Bitcoin and blockchain technology. On the whiteboard, it was written that Blockstream “Can’t be evil.” \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>December 2020: 7 years later, we can see that Blockstream has done exactly that. Adam Back wasted no time after entering the Bitcoin market at the height of the frenzy in November 2013. He saw a big opportunity to seize the protocol, and took advantage of that as quickly as he could. He then did everything in his power to make Bitcoin his invention, and not Satoshi's. \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>There is a reason why people think Adam Back is Satoshi. It's because for 7 years now, he has done everything he could to take over power of the protocol and claim it is his. From silly things like saying Bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control, to forming a multi-million dollar company to hire all the BTC devs he could find early on so he could rewire the protocol to what he wanted it to be. \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>There's no coincidence that in 2012-2013 Bitcoin was already being \u003ca href=\"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=335658.0\">subverted by government agents\u003c/a> working with BTC core devs like Peter Todd, Greg Maxwell, Warren Togami, and Theymos, to keep the blocks small so that Blockstream can take over. 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biggest brokerage begrudgingly joins crypto market \u003ca href=\"https://bloom.bg/2DtpuTF\" title=\"https://bloom.bg/2DtpuTF\">bloom.bg/2DtpuT…\u003c/a>","content":"Brazil's biggest brokerage begrudgingly joins crypto market https://bloom.bg/2DtpuTF","language":null,"image":{"url":"https://i.redditmedia.com/89W6jIjw3I4eMcQl1dFTjL-VuvM3L6hoHo3tZK-JXSk.jpg?s=d351a5988b3213aeee8ff58e452af2f4","width":1200,"height":812,"_id":"64ba06801ecce2e210fa3370"},"contentGuessed":true,"__at":"2025-05-23T13:54:42.079Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"bloombergcomnewsarticles20180920brazilsbiggestbrokeragebegrudginglyjoinscryptomarket","origin":"bloomberg.com"},"cointelegraph.com/news/can-crypto-record-a-1-000x-return-and-reach-200-trillion-market-cap":{"original":{"headers":{"date":["Wed, 29 May 2019 00:34:52 GMT"],"content-type":["text/html; charset=UTF-8"],"transfer-encoding":["chunked"],"connection":["close"],"set-cookie":["__cfduid=de4eb90511cbbf5cd29faf51b663c3f6f1559090091; expires=Thu, 28-May-20 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week, statements from Binance CEO Changpeng Zhao (aka CZ) and Ethereum co-creator Vitalik Buterin led the community to speculate on the possibility of the crypto market achieving a 1,000 return in value in the long-term.On Sept. 8, Buterin stated with the awareness of cryptocurrencies by the general public and mainstream reaching a peak in late 2017, it is unrealistic for the valuation of the crypto market to increase by a thousand fold from its current value at $200 billion.A thousand fold increase from $200 billion is $200 trillion, which is 70 percent of global wealth that includes gold, reserve currencies, and other traditional assets that are utilized as wealth management products.“The blockchain space is getting to the point where there’s a ceiling in sight. If you talk to the average educated person at this point, they probably have heard of blockchain at least once. There isn’t an opportunity for yet another 1,000-times growth in anything in the space anymore.”Misreporting about Buterin’s initial statementGiven the context and Buterin’s statement on the growth of awareness of crypto, the claim of the Ethereum co-creator was quite straightforward. While it is possible that decentralized systems and applications (DApps) achieve a thousandfold growth in activity and user base, it is not realistic to expect the valuation of cryptocurrencies to surpass $200 trillion anytime soon.However, sensationalized headlines and out-of-context social media posts misled many members of the cryptocurrency community to misunderstand Buterin’s statement as a pessimistic take on the rate of growth of the cryptocurrency sector.As an increasing number of people began to question Buterin’s motive in his rather simple statement, he released a follow-up explanation on social media, reaffirming that, although he struggles to see the valuation of the crypto market achieving $200 trillion, exponential growth in the usage of DApps and blockchain protocols is possible.“To be clear, I never said that there is ‘no room for growth’ in the crypto ecosystem. I said there is no room for 1000x price increases. A 1000x price increase from today means $200 trillion in crypto, or an entire 70 percent of today's global wealth being in crypto. What I actually said is that, because large portions of the population have already heard of crypto, further growth of crypto in any sense must come from depth (i.e., actual usage) and not bringing in more attention.”The viewpoint of Buterin toward the long-term growth of the cryptocurrency market is sensible, as it would undoubtedly be difficult for cryptocurrencies to represent the vast majority of the world’s wealth. It would require banks operating the $30 trillion offshore banking industry and investors holding wealth in traditional stores of value such as gold to switch to cryptocurrencies as the primary store of value.Instead of expecting an unrealistic return, Buterin noted that it is important to focus on the growth of DApps and protocols to speed up the process of increasing the usage of blockchain-based systems and cryptocurrencies.Currently, most individuals — in both developed cryptocurrency markets, like the U.S. and Japan, and restricted markets, like India and China — are already aware of cryptocurrencies and blockchain protocols. The next phase in blockchain technology might require a shift in the trend from centralized platforms to decentralized alternatives, which could be difficult given the discrepancy in efficiency between centralized and decentralized services.CZ believes 1,000x increase is possibleChangpeng Zhao, the CEO of the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange, Binance, better known to the community as CZ, stated that a thousandfold return from the current valuation of the market is “absolutely” possible, offering an extremely optimistic prediction on the future price trend of the market.CZ stated that $200 trillion could seem unrealistically large if compared to the traditional finance market. But, similar to comparing the taxi industry to the market size of Uber, CZ explained that it is not accurate to measure the potential of the crypto market based on the size of the traditional finance market.“I still disagree with this. I will say ‘crypto will absolutely grow 1000x and more!’ Just reaching USD market cap will give it close to 1000x, (that's just one currency with severely restricted use case), and the derivatives market is so much bigger.“You also can't use traditional market size to measure potential for new technologies or industries. If you used (and people have) taxi market size to estimate Uber's potential, you would be off by quite a bit.”There is merit in CZ’s argument that the potential of cryptocurrencies cannot be measured based on the market size of the traditional finance market. But, over the past year, the biggest companies in crypto, such as Coinbase, Gemini and BitGo, have been working to establish custody solutions to bring in institutional investors into the space, while investors have been highly anticipating the debut of exchange-traded funds (ETFs) and all sorts of publicly tradable instruments around crypto.Hence, with the majority of investors in the crypto market anticipating an influx of investors from the traditional finance sector, to some extent, investors have to explore the finance market to measure the potential market size of crypto.Moreover, as ShapeShift CEO Erik Voorhees said, global finance is becoming further integrated with crypto finance, and as the cryptocurrency sector continues to create bridges connecting the two markets, both markets will continue to intertwine and affect one another, positive or negatively.As CZ stated, it is also important to acknowledge that money is one application of blockchain technology that is best demonstrated by Bitcoin. Venture capital firms and prominent investors like Ben Horowitz generally consider blockchain technology and smart contract blockchain protocols like Ethereum as new global computing systems.Bitcoin, Ether and other major cryptocurrencies that have started to be adopted as stores of value have alternative use cases. Ether operates as gas that fuels the Ethereum smart contract blockchain protocol, which — with sufficient scaling through the implementation of sharding and Plasma — could compete against centralized web servers and computing platforms in the long term.The ability of blockchain technology to operate as a computing system on top of a form of money could add more value and, as CZ said, in the sense that blockchain technology is not limited to money, it can be argued that the comparison between crypto and the finance sector represents only one aspect of the market.Earliest Coinbase investor sees explosive growth for cryptoGarry Tan, a prominent venture capitalist and the earliest investor in Coinbase and Instacart, who has funded more than 100 startups worth $20 billion, said that it is possible for the crypto market to reach hundreds of trillions of dollars in market valuation.While a thousandfold return is difficult to imagine, Tan stated that the possibility of explosive growth in the cryptocurrency sector cannot be ruled out. He emphasized that the crypto market will not undergo the trend most speculators in the industry expect. Tan told Cointelegraph:“My general sense is that it is possible but unlikely to be 1000x. Even if it did get there, you would be assuming securitization using security tokens, which isn’t exactly what speculators have in mind when they are hoping for more 1000x situations. They are generally thinking that their worthless altcoins will somehow be worth 1000x and security tokens will merely represent ownership in real assets. It’s a strange nuance but one worth mentioning.”Still, after nine years, Tan stated that the cryptocurrency market is mostly dominated by retail investors and individual traders. A significant amount of capital is controlled by institutions and the entrance of institutional investors — like pensions, endowments and sovereign wealth funds — could very well lead to an explosive increase in the valuation of crypto.For institutional investors to commit to an asset, say Bitcoin, a specific type of infrastructure is required to facilitate the transfer of funds. Custody solutions in the crypto market have not existed for more than two months, with the first trusted custodian solution released by Coinbase in July.Hence, it could take months to years for institutional investors to commit to the crypto market. But, echoing the viewpoint of billionaire investor Mike Novogratz, Tan stated that once institutions find their way into crypto, the market will see a difference in terms of volume and value, as Novogratz previously said:“I think if you start seeing institutional LPs [limited partnerships] — like endowments, foundations, pension plans and sovereign wealth funds put capital into cryptocurrencies — you will see a tipping point where a percentage of world wealth starts flowing in. We are at the very earliest stages of that. Novogratz talks about the hordes coming, and I think that is correct. Crypto is still extremely driven by retail investors, but it’s staggering how much money is locked up in institutions.”As seen in the graph below, the volume of the crypto market experienced a large spike in late 2017, as the prices of cryptocurrencies peaked at all-time highs.But, over the past few months, the volume of the crypto market has started to recover, after experiencing a dip in March and April. In July, the volume of Bitcoin declined to sub 500,000 BTC but since August, apart from the first week of September, the volume of the crypto market has generally been improving.Generally, crypto is still in its early phases of development, like the internet in 1994. Institutions are just preparing to get involved and infrastructures of the market have only started to improve rapidly since mid-2017. As such, it is too early to discuss the possibility of crypto competing against reserve currencies and central banks. Tan stated that the next 18 months could be crucial for crypto, as it will define the long-term trajectory of the market, adding:“Central banks are a whole other level, and I don’t really know if and when they might decide it is something they [will] use as a reserve currency. That would be super far in the future, [in] my sense. We need to go from [the] infrastructure phase to [the] application phase, and I think that is the main story for the next 18 months. It’s still the internet in 1994.”Mike Novogratz sees FOMO among institutionsIn June, Novogratz stated that the crypto market will feel like a bubble once it reaches $20 trillion, after experiencing a hundredfold increase from the current price range.At the time, Novogratz explained that the next rally of crypto will be fueled by institutions entering the crypto market, triggering FOMO (fear of missing out) among other institutional investors.“[Cryptocurrency] is a global revolution. The internet bubble was only a U.S. thing. It was rich U.S. people participating. [Cryptocurrency] is global. There are kids in Bangladesh buying coins. It is monstrous in Tokyo, in South Korea, in China, in India and in Russia. We’ve got a global market and a global mania. This will feel like a bubble when we’re at $20 trillion.”Over the past month, as Cointelegraph reported, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs — three of the largest investment banks in the U.S. — have publicly released their plans to facilitate growing demand for Bitcoin from institutional investors.Morgan Stanley is said to have already established a system to process funds coming from the traditional finance sector into the crypto market and is currently awaiting an internal procedure to launch its crypto custody.Novogratz stated:“It won’t go there [$20 trillion] right away. What is going to happen is, one of these intrepid pension funds — somebody who is a market leader — is going to say, ‘You know what? we’ve got custody, Goldman Sachs is involved, [and] Bloomberg has an index I can track my performance against,’ and they’re going to buy. And all of the sudden, the second guy buys. The same FOMO that you saw in retail [will be demonstrated by institutional investors].”The deployment of crypto custodian solutions by regulated financial institutions and strengthening infrastructure around crypto will increase the probability of institutional investors committing to cryptocurrencies, which may increase the chances of the crypto market potentially achieving hundreds of trillions of dollars in valuation.","html":"\u003cp>Last week, statements from \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/Binance\">Binance\u003c/a> CEO Changpeng Zhao (aka CZ) and \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/Ethereum\">Ethereum\u003c/a> co-creator \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/vitalik-buterin\">Vitalik Buterin\u003c/a> led the community to speculate on the possibility of the \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/crypto\">crypto\u003c/a> market achieving a 1,000 return in value in the long-term.\u003c/p>\u003cp>On Sept. 8, Buterin \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/vitalik-buterin-crypto-blockchain-space-wont-see-1-000-times-growth-again\">stated\u003c/a> with the awareness of cryptocurrencies by the general public and mainstream reaching a peak in late 2017, it is unrealistic for the valuation of the crypto market to increase by a thousand fold from its current value at $200 billion.\u003c/p>\u003cp>A thousand fold increase from $200 billion is $200 trillion, which is 70 percent of global wealth that includes \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/gold\">gold\u003c/a>, reserve currencies, and other traditional assets that are utilized as wealth management products.\u003c/p>\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“The blockchain space is getting to the point where there’s a ceiling in sight. If you talk to the average educated person at this point, they probably have heard of blockchain at least once. There isn’t an opportunity for yet another 1,000-times growth in anything in the space anymore.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003ch2>Misreporting about Buterin’s initial statement\u003c/h2>\u003cp>\u003cimg alt src=\"https://s3.cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/fb629db8d2e66bc5878a405d4fbda072.jpg\" title=\"Misreporting about Buterin’s initial statement\">\u003c/p>\u003cp>Given the context and Buterin’s statement on the growth of awareness of crypto, the claim of the Ethereum co-creator was quite straightforward. While it is possible that decentralized systems and applications (\u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/dapps\">DApps\u003c/a>) achieve a thousandfold growth in activity and user base, it is not realistic to expect the valuation of cryptocurrencies to surpass $200 trillion anytime soon.\u003c/p>\u003cp>However, sensationalized headlines and out-of-context social media posts misled many members of the cryptocurrency community to misunderstand Buterin’s statement as a pessimistic take on the rate of growth of the cryptocurrency sector.\u003c/p>\u003cp>As an increasing number of people began to question Buterin’s motive in his rather simple statement, he released a \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1039696394368348161\" target=\"_blank\">follow-up explanation on social media\u003c/a>, reaffirming that, although he struggles to see the valuation of the crypto market achieving $200 trillion, exponential growth in the usage of DApps and blockchain protocols is possible.\u003c/p>\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“To be clear, I never said that there is ‘no room for growth’ in the crypto ecosystem. I said there is no room for 1000x price increases. A 1000x price increase from today means $200 trillion in crypto, or an entire 70 percent of today's global wealth being in crypto. What I actually said is that, because large portions of the population have already heard of crypto, further growth of crypto in any sense must come from depth (i.e., actual usage) and not bringing in more attention.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003cp>The viewpoint of Buterin toward the long-term growth of the cryptocurrency market is sensible, as it would undoubtedly be difficult for cryptocurrencies to represent the vast majority of the world’s wealth. It would require banks operating the $30 trillion offshore \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/Banking\">banking\u003c/a> industry and investors holding wealth in traditional stores of value such as gold to switch to cryptocurrencies as the primary store of value.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Instead of expecting an unrealistic return, Buterin noted that it is important to focus on the growth of DApps and protocols to speed up the process of increasing the usage of blockchain-based systems and cryptocurrencies.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Currently, most individuals — in both developed cryptocurrency markets, like the U.S. and \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/japan\">Japan\u003c/a>, and restricted markets, like India and \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/China\">China\u003c/a> — are already aware of cryptocurrencies and blockchain protocols. The next phase in \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/blockchain\">blockchain\u003c/a> technology might require a shift in the trend from centralized platforms to decentralized alternatives, which could be difficult given the discrepancy in efficiency between centralized and decentralized services.\u003c/p>\u003ch2>CZ believes 1,000x increase is possible\u003c/h2>\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/changpeng-zhao\">Changpeng Zhao\u003c/a>, the CEO of the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange, Binance, better known to the community as CZ, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1039709630329319424\" target=\"_blank\">stated\u003c/a> that a thousandfold return from the current valuation of the market is “absolutely” possible, offering an extremely optimistic prediction on the future price trend of the market.\u003c/p>\u003cp>CZ stated that $200 trillion could seem unrealistically large if compared to the traditional \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/finance\">finance\u003c/a> market. But, similar to comparing the taxi industry to the market size of Uber, CZ explained that it is not accurate to measure the potential of the crypto market based on the size of the traditional finance market.\u003c/p>\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“I still disagree with this. I will say ‘crypto will absolutely grow 1000x and more!’ Just reaching USD market cap will give it close to 1000x, (that's just one currency with severely restricted use case), and the derivatives market is so much bigger.\u003c/p>\u003cp>“You also can't use traditional market size to measure potential for new technologies or industries. If you used (and people have) taxi market size to estimate Uber's potential, you would be off by quite a bit.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003cp>There is merit in CZ’s argument that the potential of cryptocurrencies cannot be measured based on the market size of the traditional finance market. But, over the past year, the biggest companies in crypto, such as \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/coinbase\">Coinbase\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/Gemini\">Gemini\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/bitgo\">BitGo\u003c/a>, have been working to establish custody solutions to bring in institutional investors into the space, while investors have been highly anticipating the debut of \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/etf\">exchange-traded funds (ETFs)\u003c/a> and all sorts of publicly tradable instruments around crypto.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Hence, with the majority of investors in the crypto market anticipating an influx of investors from the traditional finance sector, to some extent, investors have to explore the finance market to measure the potential market size of crypto.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Moreover, as \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/shapeshift\">ShapeShift\u003c/a> CEO Erik Voorhees \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/1039164281223180289\" target=\"_blank\">said\u003c/a>, global finance is becoming further integrated with crypto finance, and as the cryptocurrency sector continues to create bridges connecting the two markets, both markets will continue to intertwine and affect one another, positive or negatively.\u003c/p>\u003cp>As CZ stated, it is also important to acknowledge that money is one application of blockchain technology that is best demonstrated by \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/bitcoin\">Bitcoin\u003c/a>. Venture capital firms and prominent investors like Ben Horowitz generally consider blockchain technology and smart contract blockchain protocols like Ethereum as new global computing systems.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Bitcoin, Ether and other major cryptocurrencies that have started to be adopted as stores of value have alternative use cases. Ether operates as gas that fuels the Ethereum smart contract blockchain protocol, which — with sufficient scaling through the implementation of sharding and Plasma — could compete against centralized web servers and computing platforms in the long term.\u003c/p>\u003cp>The ability of blockchain technology to operate as a computing system on top of a form of money could add more value and, as CZ said, in the sense that blockchain technology is not limited to money, it can be argued that the comparison between crypto and the finance sector represents only one aspect of the market.\u003c/p>\u003ch2>Earliest Coinbase investor sees explosive growth for crypto\u003c/h2>\u003cp>\u003cimg alt src=\"https://s3.cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/4f7d49058246fba24b619645a82641cf.jpg\" title=\"Earliest Coinbase investor sees explosive growth for crypto\">\u003c/p>\u003cp>Garry Tan, a prominent venture capitalist and the earliest investor in \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/coinbase\">Coinbase\u003c/a> and Instacart, who has funded more than 100 startups worth $20 billion, said that it is possible for the crypto market to reach hundreds of trillions of dollars in market valuation.\u003c/p>\u003cp>While a thousandfold return is difficult to imagine, Tan stated that the possibility of explosive growth in the cryptocurrency sector cannot be ruled out. He emphasized that the crypto market will not undergo the trend most speculators in the industry expect. Tan told Cointelegraph:\u003c/p>\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“My general sense is that it is possible but unlikely to be 1000x. Even if it did get there, you would be assuming securitization using security tokens, which isn’t exactly what speculators have in mind when they are hoping for more 1000x situations. They are generally thinking that their worthless altcoins will somehow be worth 1000x and security tokens will merely represent ownership in real assets. It’s a strange nuance but one worth mentioning.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003cp>Still, after nine years, Tan stated that the cryptocurrency market is mostly dominated by \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/retail\">retail\u003c/a> investors and individual traders. A significant amount of capital is controlled by institutions and the entrance of institutional investors — like pensions, endowments and sovereign wealth funds — could very well lead to an explosive increase in the valuation of crypto.\u003c/p>\u003cp>For institutional investors to commit to an asset, say Bitcoin, a specific type of infrastructure is required to facilitate the transfer of funds. Custody solutions in the crypto market have not existed for more than two months, with the \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinbase-custody-targeting-institutional-investors-now-officially-open-for-business\">first trusted custodian solution released\u003c/a> by Coinbase in July.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Hence, it could take months to years for institutional investors to commit to the crypto market. But, echoing the viewpoint of billionaire investor Mike Novogratz, Tan stated that once institutions find their way into crypto, the market will see a difference in terms of volume and value, as Novogratz \u003ca href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-06-05/novogratz-says-regulators-caught-flat-footed-on-cryptocurrencies-video\" target=\"_blank\">previously said:\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“I think if you start seeing institutional LPs [limited partnerships] — like endowments, foundations, pension plans and sovereign wealth funds put capital into cryptocurrencies — you will see a tipping point where a percentage of world wealth starts flowing in. We are at the very earliest stages of that. Novogratz talks about the hordes coming, and I think that is correct. Crypto is still extremely driven by retail investors, but it’s staggering how much money is locked up in institutions.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003cp>As seen in the graph below, the volume of the crypto market experienced a large spike in late 2017, as the prices of cryptocurrencies peaked at all-time highs.\u003c/p>\u003cp>But, over the past few months, the volume of the crypto market has started to recover, after experiencing a dip in March and April. In July, the volume of Bitcoin declined to sub 500,000 BTC but since August, apart from the first week of September, the volume of the crypto market has generally been improving.\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cimg alt src=\"https://s3.cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/53d7aa054b65e501896314b4a8f13512.png\" title=\"Bitcoin Trading Volume in 2017-2018\">\u003c/p>\u003cp>Generally, crypto is still in its early phases of development, like the internet in 1994. Institutions are just preparing to get involved and infrastructures of the market have only started to improve rapidly since mid-2017. As such, it is too early to discuss the possibility of crypto competing against reserve currencies and central banks. Tan stated that the next 18 months could be crucial for crypto, as it will define the long-term trajectory of the market, adding:\u003c/p>\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“Central banks are a whole other level, and I don’t really know if and when they might decide it is something they [will] use as a reserve currency. That would be super far in the future, [in] my sense. We need to go from [the] infrastructure phase to [the] application phase, and I think that is the main story for the next 18 months. It’s still the internet in 1994.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003ch2>Mike Novogratz sees FOMO among institutions\u003c/h2>\u003cp>In June, Novogratz stated that the crypto market will feel like a bubble once it reaches $20 trillion, after experiencing a hundredfold increase from the current price range.\u003c/p>\u003cp>At the time, Novogratz \u003ca href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-06-05/novogratz-says-regulators-caught-flat-footed-on-cryptocurrencies-video\" target=\"_blank\">explained\u003c/a> that the next rally of crypto will be fueled by institutions entering the crypto market, triggering FOMO (fear of missing out) among other institutional investors.\u003c/p>\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“[Cryptocurrency] is a global revolution. The internet bubble was only a U.S. thing. It was rich U.S. people participating. [Cryptocurrency] is global. There are kids in Bangladesh buying coins. It is monstrous in Tokyo, in South Korea, in China, in India and in Russia. We’ve got a global market and a global mania. This will feel like a bubble when we’re at $20 trillion.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003cp>Over the past month, as Cointelegraph \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/citigroup-to-let-investors-trade-custodian-held-cryptocurrency-sources-claim\">reported\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/citi\">Citigroup\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/morgan-stanley\">Morgan Stanley\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/goldman-sachs\">Goldman Sachs\u003c/a> — three of the largest investment banks in the U.S. — have publicly released their plans to facilitate growing demand for Bitcoin from institutional investors.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Morgan Stanley is said to have \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/bloomberg-morgan-stanley-plans-bitcoin-trading-for-clients\">already established\u003c/a> a system to process funds coming from the traditional finance sector into the crypto market and is currently awaiting an internal procedure to launch its crypto custody.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Novogratz stated:\u003c/p>\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“It won’t go there [$20 trillion] right away. What is going to happen is, one of these intrepid pension funds — somebody who is a market leader — is going to say, ‘You know what? we’ve got custody, Goldman Sachs is involved, [and] Bloomberg has an index I can track my performance against,’ and they’re going to buy. And all of the sudden, the second guy buys. The same FOMO that you saw in retail [will be demonstrated by institutional investors].”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003cp>The deployment of crypto custodian solutions by regulated financial institutions and strengthening infrastructure around crypto will increase the probability of institutional investors committing to cryptocurrencies, which may increase the chances of the crypto market potentially achieving hundreds of trillions of dollars in valuation.\u003c/p>","type":"ghost","description":"Experts argue on the possibility of the valuation of the crypto market reaching $200 trillion in the 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id=\"2d42\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">UPDATE: Here’s the Change.org \u003c/strong>\u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"http://chng.it/DyNwbFcCwM\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">petition to sign\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"fe3a\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Please before starting a flame war against me please read my post.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"97a8\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I think \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://twitter.com/virgilgr\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Virgil\u003c/a> is a fantastic person. I met him in a Devcon a few years back and every further occasion I met him at following conferences, I always had meaningful conversations and got enriched by his wisdom. We often talked about the blockchain sector in general and how it Impacts the world. He gave me great feedback about my \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Doing-Business-Blockchain-entrepreneurs-technology/dp/8885623085\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Blockchain Book\u003c/a> and I am thankful.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"2efd\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I respect his opinions and ideas.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"c6a8\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">In general, I truly, honestly think Virgil is someone that wants to bridge gaps.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"10c8\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Virgil is a man of Peace.\u003c/h1>\u003cfigure class=\"jr js jt ju ek jv dy dz paragraph-image\">\u003cdiv role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" class=\"jw jx di jy bf jz\">\u003cdiv class=\"dy dz jq\">\u003cpicture>\u003csource srcset=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:640/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 640w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 720w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:750/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 750w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:786/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 786w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:828/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 828w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1100/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 1100w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 1400w\" sizes=\"(min-resolution: 4dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 4) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (min-resolution: 3dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 67vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 3) and (max-width: 700px) 65vw, (min-resolution: 2.5dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2.5) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (min-resolution: 2dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" type=\"image/webp\">\u003csource data-testid=\"og\" srcset=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:640/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 640w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 720w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:750/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 750w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:786/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 786w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:828/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 828w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1100/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 1100w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 1400w\" sizes=\"(min-resolution: 4dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 4) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (min-resolution: 3dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 67vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 3) and (max-width: 700px) 65vw, (min-resolution: 2.5dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2.5) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (min-resolution: 2dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cimg alt=\"\" class=\"bf ka kb c\" width=\"700\" height=\"420\" loading=\"lazy\" role=\"presentation\" src=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:700/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg\">\u003c/picture>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003cfigcaption class=\"kc kd ea dy dz ke kf bd b be z ft\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Virgil Giffith Man of Peace, not the “Enemy”\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\u003cp id=\"9823\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Virgil is a guy that when there’s a fight, he steps in and tries to break it up.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"31fd\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Sometimes he gets the occasional punch. He knows the job risks…\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"9543\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">He has been constantly tried to help break up fights and tried to reconcile differences. He did it before everyone else, he did it where no one wanted to do it, not because it was cool but because it was unpopular and uncomfortable and someone had to do it.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"982b\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Here are a few examples:\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"37d6\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">- The Ethereum Classic Summit “ l\u003c/strong>\u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAHxXn9h0S8&feature=youtu.be\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">et’s make Peace\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">” Participation\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"5c29\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">- The Islamic Finance extra requirements for \u003c/strong>\u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://medium.com/@virgilgr/eth-more-halal-than-btc-c2a2ee2d8d3d\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">Ether to be Sharia compliant\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"752a\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">- The DPRK North Korea “Blockchain and Peace” Conference speech\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"13eb\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I spoke with him at \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"http://Buidl.Asia\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Buidl.Asia\u003c/a> in Seoul conference. We talked about half an hour about his trip there, I still hold the DPRK 727 cigarette he gave me as a souvenir : )\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"8407\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">We spoke about the role of the US government not wanting the two Koreas to reunite and make PEACE. Why the US government thinks is better to have the two Koreas separated? Not sure. I am not smart enough to understand, and also that’s above my paycheck…\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"4a07\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">We spoke about the role of the Blockchain in bringing PEACE and Ethereum being the only thing the US government can’t stop, therefore being the only obstacle in their plan.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"32aa\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I have nothing against the US government, nor the U.S Attorney, they had a job to act and enforce the US government law. On the contrary, I love the U.S of A. I got my College degree in the NY, most of my dearest friends are Americans…\u003c/p>\u003cblockquote class=\"kg kh ki\">\u003cp id=\"2a90\" class=\"ht hu kj hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id kk if ig ih kl ij ik il km in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I love America because of the Freedom of Speech…even if that speech is about “Blockchain and Peace”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003cp id=\"dde7\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">If you love someone you must criticize them when you think they are wrong.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"7b70\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I think the US Government is wrong about Virgil.\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"0413\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw kn hy hz ia ko ic id ie kp ig ih ii kq ik il im kr io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I must admit have not seen his “Blockchain and Peace” speech, but everything he told me he presented, I believe is already common knowledge.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"269d\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I have a few rethorical questions:\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"2de6\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Do anyone honestly think, that there is something Virgil Griffith said about the blockchain at the conference that was not already available on the internet?\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"9fa4\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Does Virgil Griffith as an American Citizen have the freedom of expressing his opinions or the freedom of speech is limited when we talk about Blockchain?\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"ead0\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Maybe the US Government honestly thinks that Blockchain technology is dangerous for money laundering, I fully understand their concern.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"71af\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Can anyone give me a specific example of an information \u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">-\u003c/strong>not already public knowedge- that Virgil has passed to DPRK?\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"cb61\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">So why he is jail ?\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"909b\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw kn hy hz ia ko ic id ie kp ig ih ii kq ik il im kr io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Because discussing “smart contracts” “proof of Work” versus “proof of stake” is illegal ?\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"c2be\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Please, let’s not have another Aaron Swartz martyr in our hands.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"39f9\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Please, Let’s do the right thing.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"54ee\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Please, \u003cdiv class=\"bk qb\">\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv class=\"bk\" aria-hidden=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"71\" aria-labelledby=\"71\">\u003ca class=\"ks kt fr\" 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Ho vissuto molti anni negli Stati Uniti e l’Independence Day è considerato fra le feste più importanti per gli Statunitensi . 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2019\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003c/a>\u003c/div>\u003c/span>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003cdiv class=\"py l\">\u003cdiv class=\"l\">\u003cdiv class=\"l di\">\u003cdiv class=\"mr\">\u003cdiv class=\"l\">\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv class=\"ab\">\u003cdiv class=\"l cj gp\">\u003cdiv class=\"l\">\u003ca class=\"ae af ag ah ai aj ak al am an ao ap aq ar as\" aria-label=\"Post Preview Title\" rel=\"noopener follow\" href=\"/a-month-around-asia-talking-about-commercio-network-and-cosmos-845a5cf25ee5?source=author_recirc-----353364cb2106----2----------------------------\">\u003cdiv class=\"vk vl vm vn vo l\">\u003ch2 class=\"bd gx nd ne vp vq iy ng nh vr vs jc jd jf vt vu jg jh jj vv vw jk jl jn vx vy jo np nq nr nt nv bi\">A month around Asia talking about Commercio.network and Cosmos\u003c/h2>\u003c/div>\u003cdiv class=\"h k vz cx db\">\u003cp class=\"hv b ev ew np ye nq nr yf nt nv gv bi\">During the Buidl.asia conference in Seoul, South Korea, I realized the big difference that exists between 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2019\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003c/a>\u003c/div>\u003c/span>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003cdiv class=\"py l\">\u003cdiv class=\"l\">\u003cdiv class=\"l di\">\u003cdiv class=\"mr\">\u003cdiv class=\"l\">\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv class=\"ab\">\u003cdiv class=\"l cj gp\">\u003cdiv class=\"l\">\u003ca class=\"ae af ag ah ai aj ak al am an ao ap aq ar as\" aria-label=\"Post Preview Title\" rel=\"noopener follow\" href=\"/italy-recognize-smart-contracts-as-law-52453dccef09?source=author_recirc-----353364cb2106----3----------------------------\">\u003cdiv class=\"vk vl vm vn vo l\">\u003ch2 class=\"bd gx nd ne vp vq iy ng nh vr vs jc jd jf vt vu jg jh jj vv vw jk jl jn vx vy jo np nq nr nt nv bi\">Italy recognizes Smart Contracts as law\u003c/h2>\u003c/div>\u003cdiv class=\"h k vz cx db\">\u003cp class=\"hv b ev ew np wa nq nr ue nt nv gv bi\">Somewhere… law is code. Italy’ Senate approved a new law called “DL Semplificazioni” that will provide legal standing to Blockchain technology and Smart Contracts. 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I got my College degree in the NY, most of my dearest friends are Americans…\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:ace72c903525_20\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"ace72c903525_20\",\"name\":\"2a90\",\"type\":\"BQ\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"I love America because of the Freedom of Speech…even if that speech is about “Blockchain and Peace”\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:ace72c903525_21\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"ace72c903525_21\",\"name\":\"dde7\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"If you love someone you must criticize them when you think they are 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concern.\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:ace72c903525_28\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"ace72c903525_28\",\"name\":\"71af\",\"type\":\"P\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"Can anyone give me a specific example of an information -not already public knowedge- that Virgil has passed to DPRK?\",\"hasDropCap\":null,\"dropCapImage\":null,\"markups\":[{\"__typename\":\"Markup\",\"type\":\"STRONG\",\"start\":56,\"end\":57,\"href\":null,\"anchorType\":null,\"userId\":null,\"linkMetadata\":null}],\"codeBlockMetadata\":null,\"iframe\":null,\"mixtapeMetadata\":null},\"Paragraph:ace72c903525_29\":{\"__typename\":\"Paragraph\",\"id\":\"ace72c903525_29\",\"name\":\"cb61\",\"type\":\"H3\",\"href\":null,\"layout\":null,\"metadata\":null,\"text\":\"So why he is jail 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start a petition to free Virgil Griffith.Yes, I know it is an unpopular opinion but please let’s start a petition to free Virgil Griffith.UPDATE: Here’s the Change.org petition to signPlease before starting a flame war against me please read my post.I think Virgil is a fantastic person. I met him in a Devcon a few years back and every further occasion I met him at following conferences, I always had meaningful conversations and got enriched by his wisdom. We often talked about the blockchain sector in general and how it Impacts the world. He gave me great feedback about my Blockchain Book and I am thankful.I respect his opinions and ideas.In general, I truly, honestly think Virgil is someone that wants to bridge gaps.Virgil is a man of Peace.Virgil Giffith Man of Peace, not the “Enemy”Virgil is a guy that when there’s a fight, he steps in and tries to break it up.Sometimes he gets the occasional punch. He knows the job risks…He has been constantly tried to help break up fights and tried to reconcile differences. He did it before everyone else, he did it where no one wanted to do it, not because it was cool but because it was unpopular and uncomfortable and someone had to do it.Here are a few examples:- The Ethereum Classic Summit “ let’s make Peace” Participation- The Islamic Finance extra requirements for Ether to be Sharia compliant- The DPRK North Korea “Blockchain and Peace” Conference speechI spoke with him at Buidl.Asia in Seoul conference. We talked about half an hour about his trip there, I still hold the DPRK 727 cigarette he gave me as a souvenir : )We spoke about the role of the US government not wanting the two Koreas to reunite and make PEACE. Why the US government thinks is better to have the two Koreas separated? Not sure. I am not smart enough to understand, and also that’s above my paycheck…We spoke about the role of the Blockchain in bringing PEACE and Ethereum being the only thing the US government can’t stop, therefore being the only obstacle in their plan.I have nothing against the US government, nor the U.S Attorney, they had a job to act and enforce the US government law. On the contrary, I love the U.S of A. I got my College degree in the NY, most of my dearest friends are Americans…I love America because of the Freedom of Speech…even if that speech is about “Blockchain and Peace”If you love someone you must criticize them when you think they are wrong.I think the US Government is wrong about Virgil.I must admit have not seen his “Blockchain and Peace” speech, but everything he told me he presented, I believe is already common knowledge.I have a few rethorical questions:Do anyone honestly think, that there is something Virgil Griffith said about the blockchain at the conference that was not already available on the internet?Does Virgil Griffith as an American Citizen have the freedom of expressing his opinions or the freedom of speech is limited when we talk about Blockchain?Maybe the US Government honestly thinks that Blockchain technology is dangerous for money laundering, I fully understand their concern.Can anyone give me a specific example of an information -not already public knowedge- that Virgil has passed to DPRK?So why he is jail ?Because discussing “smart contracts” “proof of Work” versus “proof of stake” is illegal ?Please, let’s not have another Aaron Swartz martyr in our hands.Please, Let’s do the right thing.Please, Vitalik Buterin start a petition to free Virgil Griffith.","first":1680101093441,"html":"\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv class=\"es gk gl gm gn go\">\u003c/div>\u003cdiv class=\"gp gq gr gs gt\">\u003cdiv class=\"\">\u003ch1 id=\"0fbf\" class=\"pw-post-title gu gv gw bd gx gy gz ha hb hc hd he hf hg hh hi hj hk hl hm hn ho hp hq hr hs bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Let’s start a petition to free Virgil Griffith.\u003c/h1>\u003c/div>\u003cp id=\"5ec4\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Yes, I know it is an unpopular opinion but please let’s start a petition to free Virgil Griffith.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"2d42\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">UPDATE: Here’s the Change.org \u003c/strong>\u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"http://chng.it/DyNwbFcCwM\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">petition to sign\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"fe3a\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Please before starting a flame war against me please read my post.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"97a8\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I think \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://twitter.com/virgilgr\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Virgil\u003c/a> is a fantastic person. I met him in a Devcon a few years back and every further occasion I met him at following conferences, I always had meaningful conversations and got enriched by his wisdom. We often talked about the blockchain sector in general and how it Impacts the world. He gave me great feedback about my \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Doing-Business-Blockchain-entrepreneurs-technology/dp/8885623085\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Blockchain Book\u003c/a> and I am thankful.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"2efd\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I respect his opinions and ideas.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"c6a8\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">In general, I truly, honestly think Virgil is someone that wants to bridge gaps.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"10c8\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Virgil is a man of Peace.\u003c/h1>\u003cfigure class=\"jr js jt ju ek jv dy dz paragraph-image\">\u003cdiv role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" class=\"jw jx di jy bf jz\">\u003cdiv class=\"dy dz jq\">\u003cpicture>\u003csource srcset=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:640/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 640w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 720w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:750/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 750w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:786/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 786w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:828/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 828w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1100/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 1100w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/format:webp/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 1400w\" sizes=\"(min-resolution: 4dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 4) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (min-resolution: 3dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 67vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 3) and (max-width: 700px) 65vw, (min-resolution: 2.5dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2.5) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (min-resolution: 2dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" type=\"image/webp\">\u003csource data-testid=\"og\" srcset=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:640/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 640w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 720w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:750/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 750w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:786/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 786w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:828/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 828w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1100/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 1100w, https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg 1400w\" sizes=\"(min-resolution: 4dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 4) and (max-width: 700px) 50vw, (min-resolution: 3dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 67vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 3) and (max-width: 700px) 65vw, (min-resolution: 2.5dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2.5) and (max-width: 700px) 80vw, (min-resolution: 2dppx) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) and (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\">\u003cimg alt=\"\" class=\"bf ka kb c\" width=\"700\" height=\"420\" loading=\"lazy\" role=\"presentation\" src=\"https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:700/1*vi_VaIlpCLStNMjvWbhLow.jpeg\">\u003c/picture>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003cfigcaption class=\"kc kd ea dy dz ke kf bd b be z ft\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Virgil Giffith Man of Peace, not the “Enemy”\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\u003cp id=\"9823\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Virgil is a guy that when there’s a fight, he steps in and tries to break it up.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"31fd\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Sometimes he gets the occasional punch. He knows the job risks…\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"9543\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">He has been constantly tried to help break up fights and tried to reconcile differences. He did it before everyone else, he did it where no one wanted to do it, not because it was cool but because it was unpopular and uncomfortable and someone had to do it.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"982b\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Here are a few examples:\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"37d6\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">- The Ethereum Classic Summit “ l\u003c/strong>\u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAHxXn9h0S8&feature=youtu.be\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">et’s make Peace\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">” Participation\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"5c29\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">- The Islamic Finance extra requirements for \u003c/strong>\u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"https://medium.com/@virgilgr/eth-more-halal-than-btc-c2a2ee2d8d3d\" rel=\"noopener\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">Ether to be Sharia compliant\u003c/strong>\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"752a\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">\u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">- The DPRK North Korea “Blockchain and Peace” Conference speech\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"13eb\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I spoke with him at \u003ca class=\"ae ir\" href=\"http://Buidl.Asia\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Buidl.Asia\u003c/a> in Seoul conference. We talked about half an hour about his trip there, I still hold the DPRK 727 cigarette he gave me as a souvenir : )\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"8407\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">We spoke about the role of the US government not wanting the two Koreas to reunite and make PEACE. Why the US government thinks is better to have the two Koreas separated? Not sure. I am not smart enough to understand, and also that’s above my paycheck…\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"4a07\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">We spoke about the role of the Blockchain in bringing PEACE and Ethereum being the only thing the US government can’t stop, therefore being the only obstacle in their plan.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"32aa\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I have nothing against the US government, nor the U.S Attorney, they had a job to act and enforce the US government law. On the contrary, I love the U.S of A. I got my College degree in the NY, most of my dearest friends are Americans…\u003c/p>\u003cblockquote class=\"kg kh ki\">\u003cp id=\"2a90\" class=\"ht hu kj hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id kk if ig ih kl ij ik il km in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I love America because of the Freedom of Speech…even if that speech is about “Blockchain and Peace”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\u003cp id=\"dde7\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">If you love someone you must criticize them when you think they are wrong.\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"7b70\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I think the US Government is wrong about Virgil.\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"0413\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw kn hy hz ia ko ic id ie kp ig ih ii kq ik il im kr io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I must admit have not seen his “Blockchain and Peace” speech, but everything he told me he presented, I believe is already common knowledge.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"269d\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">I have a few rethorical questions:\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"2de6\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Do anyone honestly think, that there is something Virgil Griffith said about the blockchain at the conference that was not already available on the internet?\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"9fa4\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Does Virgil Griffith as an American Citizen have the freedom of expressing his opinions or the freedom of speech is limited when we talk about Blockchain?\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"ead0\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Maybe the US Government honestly thinks that Blockchain technology is dangerous for money laundering, I fully understand their concern.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"71af\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Can anyone give me a specific example of an information \u003cstrong class=\"hv gx\">-\u003c/strong>not already public knowedge- that Virgil has passed to DPRK?\u003c/p>\u003ch1 id=\"cb61\" class=\"is it gw bd iu iv iw ix iy iz ja jb jc jd je jf jg jh ji jj jk jl jm jn jo jp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">So why he is jail ?\u003c/h1>\u003cp id=\"909b\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw kn hy hz ia ko ic id ie kp ig ih ii kq ik il im kr io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Because discussing “smart contracts” “proof of Work” versus “proof of stake” is illegal ?\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"c2be\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Please, let’s not have another Aaron Swartz martyr in our hands.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"39f9\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Please, Let’s do the right thing.\u003c/p>\u003cp id=\"54ee\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph ht hu gw hv b hw hx hy hz ia ib ic id ie if ig ih ii ij ik il im in io ip iq gp bi\" data-selectable-paragraph=\"\">Please, \u003c/p>\u003cdiv class=\"bk qb\">\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv class=\"bk\" aria-hidden=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"71\" aria-labelledby=\"71\">\u003ca class=\"ks kt fr\" 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Please share the latest Stellar product news & announcement speculations in this thread.\n\n*****\n\n#Must Read\n\n* [Stellar Roadmap 2019](https://www.stellar.org/roadmap)\n\n* [r\\/Stellar Rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellar/wiki/rules)\n\n* [Getting Started](https://redd.it/8h0grg)\n\n* [Stellar Syllabus](https://novicedock.com/learn/cryptocurrency/stellar)\n\n* [My Lumen FAQ](https://redd.it/7o27wc)\n\n*****\n\n#Scam Alert\n\nProtect yourself against scams and media impersonators!! Stellar Development Foundation will **NEVER** ask your Secret Key unless in the official website. Stellar Development Foundation will **NEVER** contact you in media platforms to offer a giveaway, always report those messages so they can be removed to protect our community. 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Please take note of the rules in the sidebar and remember to stay civil and polite when commenting. Feel free to use this thread to introduce yourself, ask a quick question or to share your thoughts on the latest developments. We’d like to hear your ideas, suggestions and concerns regarding VeChain.\n\n[](#dailydiscussion)\n\nFor the new people, make sure to keep up-to-date on the latest developments by following the official [VeChain Twitter](https://twitter.com/vechainofficial) or the VeChain Telegram [announcement channel](https://t.me/vechainannouncement) and please take a look at the FAQ in the [VeChain wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/Vechain/wiki/index) before asking questions.\n\n***\n\n**Latest News:**\nHere is a list of the latest developments and important dates\n\n\n* [Introducing the VeChain Accelerator Program](https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/introducing-the-vechain-accelerator-program-f2013a2c2ce5)\n* [VeChain Launches Revolutionary One-stop BaaS Platform — VeChain ToolChain](https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/vechain-launches-revolutionary-one-stop-baas-platform-vechain-toolchain-now-anyone-around-the-acf8ddc57c7b)\n* [VeChain Launches HSM Based Key Escrow Turnkey Solution](https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/vechain-launches-hsm-based-key-escrow-turnkey-solution-644043df5de1)\n* [Digital Carbon Ecosystem Expands to More Entities and Individuals in China with the Launch of WeChat Mini Program — QingTanHui Life (Low Carbon Link)](https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/digital-carbon-ecosystem-expands-to-more-entities-and-individuals-in-china-with-the-launch-of-31e7e69bdbd8)\n* [San Marino Republic Adopts VeChainThor Blockchain To Strive To Become The First Carbon Neutral Country](https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/san-marino-republic-adopts-vechainthor-blockchain-to-strive-to-become-the-first-carbon-neutral-8cd6fb31b2a6)\n* [VeChain Summit 2019 Recap Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEkD1Gr_Yw4)\n* [Walmart China Takes on Food Safety with VeChainThor Blockchain Technology](https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/walmart-china-takes-on-food-safety-with-vechainthor-blockchain-technology-b1443e0e079c)\n* [Cupids Farm Milk, First Product to Go Live On BrightCode, a VeChainThor Blockchain Solution](https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/cupids-farm-milk-produced-by-bright-food-became-the-first-product-to-go-live-on-brightcode-a-626cb33ee09d)\n* [VeChain, DNV GL, and Haier IoC Enter Into Tripartite Strategic Partnership](https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/vechain-dnv-gl-and-haier-ioc-enter-into-tripartite-strategic-partnership-ed1abc7e98b4)\n* [DNVGL.com: First Food & Beverage Public Blockchain Ecosystem [Powered by VeChain] Boosts France-China Trade](https://www.dnvgl.com/news/first-food-beverage-public-blockchain-ecosystem-boosts-france-china-trade-161450)\n* [VeChain, Together With Mengku Rongshi, Yunlian and Linova, Announced The Government Officially Endorsed Blockchain-enabled Yunnan Pu’er Tea Traceability Platform](https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/vechain-together-with-mengku-rongshi-yunlian-and-linova-announced-the-government-officially-b1b55478710d)\n* [VeChain Attended San Francisco Blockchain Week 2019 and Showcased The New VeChain Builders Website](https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/vechain-attended-san-francisco-blockchain-week-2019-and-showcased-the-new-vechain-builders-website-b8d5fb0aeac2)\n* [BMW announces VerifyCar powered by VeChain](https://vechaininsider.com/news/vechain-summit-2019-bmw-announces-verifycar-powered-by-vechain/)\n\n***\n\n**Guidelines:**\n\n* Please make sure to read the [VeChain wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/Vechain/wiki/index). 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We’d like to hear your ideas, suggestions and concerns regarding VeChain.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"#dailydiscussion\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>For the new people, make sure to keep up-to-date on the latest developments by following the official \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/vechainofficial\">VeChain Twitter\u003c/a> or the VeChain Telegram \u003ca href=\"https://t.me/vechainannouncement\">announcement channel\u003c/a> and please take a look at the FAQ in the \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/Vechain/wiki/index\">VeChain wiki\u003c/a> before asking questions.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003chr/>\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Latest News:\u003c/strong>\nHere is a list of the latest developments and important dates\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/introducing-the-vechain-accelerator-program-f2013a2c2ce5\">Introducing the VeChain Accelerator Program\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/vechain-launches-revolutionary-one-stop-baas-platform-vechain-toolchain-now-anyone-around-the-acf8ddc57c7b\">VeChain Launches Revolutionary One-stop BaaS Platform — VeChain ToolChain\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/vechain-launches-hsm-based-key-escrow-turnkey-solution-644043df5de1\">VeChain Launches HSM Based Key Escrow Turnkey Solution\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/digital-carbon-ecosystem-expands-to-more-entities-and-individuals-in-china-with-the-launch-of-31e7e69bdbd8\">Digital Carbon Ecosystem Expands to More Entities and Individuals in China with the Launch of WeChat Mini Program — QingTanHui Life (Low Carbon Link)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/san-marino-republic-adopts-vechainthor-blockchain-to-strive-to-become-the-first-carbon-neutral-8cd6fb31b2a6\">San Marino Republic Adopts VeChainThor Blockchain To Strive To Become The First Carbon Neutral Country\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEkD1Gr_Yw4\">VeChain Summit 2019 Recap Video\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/walmart-china-takes-on-food-safety-with-vechainthor-blockchain-technology-b1443e0e079c\">Walmart China Takes on Food Safety with VeChainThor Blockchain Technology\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/cupids-farm-milk-produced-by-bright-food-became-the-first-product-to-go-live-on-brightcode-a-626cb33ee09d\">Cupids Farm Milk, First Product to Go Live On BrightCode, a VeChainThor Blockchain Solution\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/vechain-dnv-gl-and-haier-ioc-enter-into-tripartite-strategic-partnership-ed1abc7e98b4\">VeChain, DNV GL, and Haier IoC Enter Into Tripartite Strategic Partnership\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.dnvgl.com/news/first-food-beverage-public-blockchain-ecosystem-boosts-france-china-trade-161450\">DNVGL.com: First Food & Beverage Public Blockchain Ecosystem [Powered by VeChain] Boosts France-China Trade\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/vechain-together-with-mengku-rongshi-yunlian-and-linova-announced-the-government-officially-b1b55478710d\">VeChain, Together With Mengku Rongshi, Yunlian and Linova, Announced The Government Officially Endorsed Blockchain-enabled Yunnan Pu’er Tea Traceability Platform\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/vechain-foundation/vechain-attended-san-francisco-blockchain-week-2019-and-showcased-the-new-vechain-builders-website-b8d5fb0aeac2\">VeChain Attended San Francisco Blockchain Week 2019 and Showcased The New VeChain Builders Website\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://vechaininsider.com/news/vechain-summit-2019-bmw-announces-verifycar-powered-by-vechain/\">BMW announces VerifyCar powered by VeChain\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\u003chr/>\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guidelines:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>Please make sure to read the \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/Vechain/wiki/index\">VeChain wiki\u003c/a>. It should get you started on what VeChain is, what it strives to do and gives you a solid basis for discussion of all things VeChain.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>News, articles and announcements should be posted in separate threads. \u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Make sure to report any inappropriate comments or behavior. 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Pump and dump: an overviewPump and dump is the name given to a type of microcap fraud, in which the price of an asset — frequently one with low market capitalization and share volume — is manipulated by a coordinated rush of high-volume purchases by a group of actors working in complicity. The surge in purchases artificially inflates the asset’s demand, pushing up its price and reeling in unwitting investors: the high-volume purchase strategy is often accompanied by circulating positive “expert” or official statements and/or recommendations online in a bid to further lure in casual traders. At the end of the scheme, the manipulators dump their tokens — overwhelming organic demand and causing the asset’s price to plummet, leaving victims with devalued holdings. The researchers note:“Cryptocurrencies tend to be exceptionally vulnerable to this form of attack, as coins are often heavily concentrated in the hands of a comparatively small number of individuals, whose market activities can dramatically impact the coin price.”Alleged 2019 LINK pump and dump manipulationAn.Chain has published a detailed timeline, which includes links to several apparently implicated tweets, the date of LINK’s listing on crypto exchange Coinbase, and a tracing of the asset’s price movements — from $1.19 on June 13 to $4.45 by June 29, before beginning to drop on July 2 to $3.73.An.Chain outlines the parameters it used to identify an apparently coordinated group of addresses it believes to be behind the spike in purchases, their interactions and strategies — such as the use of multiple jump addresses to mask the token flow. The post further outlines how Ether (ETH) gas fee traces can be analyzed to reveal that “that all the ETH sent to the jump addresses are sourced from mining nodes.” “This is a sophisticated tactic that hides the player’s real address,” the researchers note.An.Chain concludes by arguing that the prevalence of thin markets in the crypto sector can make it vulnerable to manipulation and that further diligence is crucial to the sector’s future. Yet they also point to the immutable properties of blockchain technologies, which permits a detailed analysis of marketplace activity and network interaction — allowing investigators to construct a directory of key addresses, affiliations and transaction pathways that are valuable from a surveillance perspective.Last month, fresh research pointed to the apparently prevalent use of arbitrage bots for manipulative profit-making strategies on decentralized exchanges.","totalUpvotes":105,"score":107,"nReplies":31,"html":"\u003cp dir=\"ltr\">\u003cem>Update [2:27pm UTC]: This article has been changed to reflect that Chainlink (LINK) is different from LINK, the native cryptocurrency of Japanese messaging giant LINE’s service-oriented blockchain.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\u003cp>Researchers have published evidence of what they claim is a coordinated pump and dump manipulation involving the Chainlink (LINK) token.\u003c/p>\u003cp>A blog post published on Sept. 11 by AnChain.Ai researchers contains an analysis of apparently suspicious LINK token transactions between April 1, 2019, and July 26, 2019. \u003c/p>\u003ch2>Pump and dump: an overview\u003c/h2>\u003cp>Pump and dump is the name given to a type of microcap fraud, in which the price of an asset — frequently one with low market capitalization and share volume — is manipulated by a coordinated rush of high-volume purchases by a group of actors working in complicity. \u003c/p>\u003cp>The surge in purchases artificially inflates the asset’s demand, pushing up its price and reeling in unwitting investors: the high-volume purchase strategy is often accompanied by circulating positive “expert” or official statements and/or recommendations online in a bid to further lure in casual traders. \u003c/p>\u003cp>At the end of the scheme, the manipulators dump their tokens — overwhelming organic demand and causing the asset’s price to plummet, leaving victims with devalued holdings. 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The platform will be built on the Energy Web Chain, a new Ethereum-based, public, “proof-of-authority” blockchain.\nRenewable energy certificates (REC) are growing in popularity among multinationals in the region, according the EWF, and these companies are looking to track and improve the sustainability of their renewable energy sources through their supply chains. 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In 2018, Thailand generated about 28 million megawatt hours in clean electricity, and that figure is expected to double by 2037, according to the Foundation.\n\nSeveral steps come with building a renewables program through Thailand’s PTT, said Morris, including establishing a “digital identity.” Morris explained that several physical assets, i.e. wind farms and solar farms, need to connect to the Energy Web Chain and interact via their digital identities, including generating energy attribute certificates in real-time as they produce renewable energy.\nThe Energy Web Chain’s blockchain marketplace must then sync up with the database of renewable energy certificates, and match buyers and sellers depending on their specific energy needs, the Foundation's COO explained.\nWhile green energy usage is on the rise around the world, simply offering renewable energy isn’t enough any more, said Morris. The market requires proof that specific companies are in compliance with the energy standards of their own given jurisdictions or industries, he explained.\n“Demand for renewable energy certificates comes from their importance in markets,” said Morris. “Certificates are the principal way nations certify they are achieving renewable energy targets; how electric utilities certify they are reaching policy and regulatory-mandated renewable energy standards, and how corporations certify they’re meeting sustainability and renewable energy targets in their reporting.”\nThailand’s blockchain REC marketplace is expected to go live by May 2020.","image":{"url":"https://cdn.decrypt.co/resize/1024/height/512/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/thailand-ptt-blockchain-renewable-energy-gID_5.jpg","_id":"68307e9e7982abeb1425b5ec"},"html":"\u003cdiv>\u003cp>\u003cspan>Thailand’s state-owned energy company, \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://40thptt.pttplc.com/\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cspan>PTT\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan>, has partnered with the nonprofit \u003c/span>\u003ca href=\"https://energyweb.org./\" target=\"_blank\">\u003cspan>Energy Web Foundation\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cspan> to create a new blockchain-based renewable \u003ca href=\"https://decrypt.co/resources/energy-and-blockchain\" target=\"_blank\">energy system\u003c/a>.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan>Their goal is to develop a regional energy solution that’s compliant with the International Renewable Energy Certificates Standard (\u003ca href=\"http://www.irecstandard.org/\" target=\"_blank\">I-REC\u003c/a>), which provides certificates to companies verifying that their green energy is legitimate and derived from a reliable and sustainable source. 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ethereum network has become congested with users complaining transactions are taking hours or in some rare instances, even days. “I’ve 3 pending transactions, pending for more than 10 hours, I’ve selected the “slow” mode on metamask, but 10 hours is really slow, right?” – says one etherean. The culprit appears to be Tether. They’re now taking about 50% of the entire network capacity, with USDT handling $18 billion in unfiltered trading volumes, far more than eth’s $6 billion. The ERC-20 token is used for arbitrage between global and local exchanges as well as to bypass national or international restrictions say on crypto trading, capital controls, and so on. According to Etherscan data, Tether has performed 100,000 on-chain transactions in the past 7 hours. \u003cimg src=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/tether-cloging-eth-sep-2019-930x600.png\" alt=\"Tether clogging eth, Sep 2019\">Tether clogging eth, Sep 2019Etherscan couldn’t go any further than the last 100,000 transactions. There are some 5.4 million in total, but we can’t see when they began. The move of USDT from the bitcoin based Omni layer to eth gained momentum in July when Binance suddenly announced they will accept only the ERC20 USDT and not the Omni ones. That was months ago, however, so what has suddenly changed to clog the network isn’t too clear, but calls are rising for the eth version of the blocksize, the gas limit, to be increased. \u003cimg src=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ethereum-blocksize-sep-2019-1200x429.png\" alt=\"Ethereum blocksize, Sep 2019\">Ethereum blocksize, Sep 2019We can see the ethereum blocksize is about 20,000 bytes. As blocks are around every 15 seconds, that translates to 80kb a minute or 800kb every ten minutes, quite a bit less than bitcoin’s hard limit of 1MB. Bitcoin has sort of increased its hard limit to 2MB, while in eth there is no hard limit at all, but a soft limit measured by an abstract unit called gas, or the number of calculations. A token transaction can take a lot more gas than a simple transaction. Likewise the nature of a smart contract transaction may determine a lot more gas is required than for a simple transaction. Thus currently ethereum is handling 700,000 transactions a day, but is congested. In January 2018, it was handling 1.4 million transactions a day before it got congested. The current limit of 8 million gas has not changed since January 2018, but since tether is a token, it requires more gas, and thus less transactions can fit in. That’s because gas does not necessarily correspond to the number of transactions, nor to bytes, but obviously does have some relationship. Yet it is bytes that matter as that is the “real” world resource in as far as storage, bandwidth, and so on with gas being an abstract thing. So arguably ethereum can at least double the capacity with plenty of potential efficiencies here in better aligning the gas measure to bytes so that the gas limit takes into account the actual real resource usage. Some efficiencies have been carried out, bringing orphans (uncles) down 75% since January 2018. More efficiencies kick in with Istanbul, which really is better named as the Gas Upgrade because most of what will be “turned-on” has to do with gas improvements. Then there are the more complicated rent and storage eth1x efficiencies which look like will take some time to go live. Until then miners can just increase the gas limit as this is vote based by block with 51% of them needing to “agree.” It looks like Ethermine is holding off, with Spark Pool and Ethermine accounting for 25% each. Spark is voting up, the other one is voting down. Nanopool does not seem to have an efficient composition, so they’re seeing higher uncle rates. Meaning they probably wouldn’t want to vote up. F2pool is voting up, but unless Ethermine does too, then it might be a bit difficult for the limit to increase. Ethermine has made no public comment on the matter, but last year they said “low end systems already take up to a few seconds to validate and distribute a block.” That should have changed as orphan rates have gone down, but it remains to be seen whether the gas limit will change too. Copyrights Trustnodes.com","totalUpvotes":559,"score":565,"nReplies":109,"html":"\u003cp>The ethereum network has become congested with users complaining transactions are taking hours or in some rare instances, even days.\u003c/p> \u003cp>“I’ve 3 pending transactions, pending for more than 10 hours, I’ve selected the “slow” mode on metamask, but 10 hours is really slow, right?” – \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/d2ok1m/why_is_the_network_so_clogged_right_now/\">says\u003c/a> one etherean.\u003c/p> \u003cp>The culprit appears to be Tether. They’re now taking about 50% of the entire network capacity, with USDT handling $18 billion in unfiltered trading volumes, far more than eth’s $6 billion.\u003c/p> \u003cp>The ERC-20 token is used for arbitrage between global and local exchanges as well as to bypass national or international restrictions say on crypto trading, capital controls, and so on.\u003c/p>\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\u003c/div> \u003cp>According to Etherscan \u003ca href=\"https://etherscan.io/txs?a=0xdac17f958d2ee523a2206206994597c13d831ec7&p=2000\">data\u003c/a>, Tether has performed 100,000 on-chain transactions in the past 7 hours.\u003c/p>\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\u003c/div> \u003cdiv>\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\u003c/div> \u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image\">\u003cpicture class=\"wp-image-25740\">\u003csource type=\"image/webp\" sizes=\"(max-width: 930px) 100vw, 930px\" data-srcset=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/tether-cloging-eth-sep-2019-930x600.png.webp, https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/tether-cloging-eth-sep-2019-150x97.png.webp 150w, https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/tether-cloging-eth-sep-2019-600x387.png.webp 600w, https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/tether-cloging-eth-sep-2019-768x496.png.webp 768w, https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/tether-cloging-eth-sep-2019.png.webp 1550w\">\u003cimg alt=\"Tether clogging eth, Sep 2019\" src>\u003cimg src=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/tether-cloging-eth-sep-2019-930x600.png\" alt=\"Tether clogging eth, Sep 2019\">\u003c/picture>\u003cfigcaption>Tether clogging eth, Sep 2019\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\u003cp>Etherscan couldn’t go any further than the last 100,000 transactions. There are some 5.4 million in total, but we can’t see when they began.\u003c/p> \u003cp>The move of USDT from the bitcoin based Omni layer to eth gained momentum in July when Binance suddenly announced they will accept \u003ca href=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/2019/07/05/ethereum-usdt-double\">only\u003c/a> the ERC20 USDT and not the Omni ones.\u003c/p> \u003cp>That was months ago, however, so what has suddenly changed to clog the network isn’t too clear, but \u003ca href=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/2019/09/10/calls-for-blocksize-increase-as-ethereum-fees-near-10-cent\">calls are rising\u003c/a> for the eth version of the blocksize, the gas limit, to be increased.\u003c/p> \u003cfigure class=\"wp-block-image\">\u003cpicture class=\"wp-image-25741\">\u003csource type=\"image/webp\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" data-srcset=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ethereum-blocksize-sep-2019-1200x429.png.webp, https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ethereum-blocksize-sep-2019-150x54.png.webp 150w, https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ethereum-blocksize-sep-2019-600x215.png.webp 600w, https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ethereum-blocksize-sep-2019-768x275.png.webp 768w, https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ethereum-blocksize-sep-2019.png.webp 1550w\">\u003cimg alt=\"Ethereum blocksize, Sep 2019\" src>\u003cimg src=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ethereum-blocksize-sep-2019-1200x429.png\" alt=\"Ethereum blocksize, Sep 2019\">\u003c/picture>\u003cfigcaption>Ethereum blocksize, Sep 2019\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\u003cp>We can see the ethereum blocksize is about 20,000 bytes. As blocks are around every 15 seconds, that translates to 80kb a minute or 800kb every ten minutes, quite a bit less than bitcoin’s hard limit of 1MB.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Bitcoin has sort of increased its hard limit to 2MB, while in eth there is no hard limit at all, but a soft limit measured by an abstract unit called gas, or the number of calculations.\u003c/p> \u003cp>A token transaction can take a lot more gas than a simple transaction. Likewise the nature of a smart contract transaction may determine a lot more gas is required than for a simple transaction.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Thus currently ethereum is handling 700,000 transactions a day, but is congested. In January 2018, it was handling 1.4 million transactions a day before it got congested.\u003c/p> \u003cp>The current limit of 8 million gas has not changed since January 2018, but since tether is a token, it requires more gas, and thus less transactions can fit in.\u003c/p> \u003cp>That’s because gas does not necessarily correspond to the number of transactions, nor to bytes, but obviously does have some relationship.\u003c/p>\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\u003c/div> \u003cp>Yet it is bytes that matter as that is the “real” world resource in as far as storage, bandwidth, and so on with gas being an abstract thing.\u003c/p> \u003cp>So arguably ethereum can at least double the capacity with plenty of potential efficiencies here in better aligning the gas measure to bytes so that the gas limit takes into account the actual real resource usage.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Some efficiencies have been carried out, bringing orphans (uncles) down 75% since January 2018.\u003c/p> \u003cp>More efficiencies kick in with Istanbul, which really is better named as \u003ca href=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/2019/08/27/parity-delays-ethereum-upgrade\">the Gas Upgrade\u003c/a> because most of what will be “turned-on” has to do with gas improvements.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Then there are the more complicated \u003ca href=\"https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/12/01/rent-pruning-10x-scaling-and-six-stages-ethereum-1-0-might-be-the-biggest-upgrade-yet\">rent and storage\u003c/a> eth1x efficiencies which look like will take some time to go live.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Until then miners can just increase the gas limit as this is vote based by block with 51% of them needing to “agree.”\u003c/p>\u003cdiv>\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\u003c/div> \u003cp>It looks like Ethermine is holding off, with Spark Pool and Ethermine accounting for 25% each. Spark is voting up, the other one is voting down.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Nanopool does not seem to have an efficient composition, so they’re seeing higher uncle rates. Meaning they probably wouldn’t want to vote up. 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Launched at the beginning of 2019, Fidelity Digital Assets (FDAS) offers cryptocurrency custody and trading tools for institutional investors and traders. Still, the firm has only supported bitcoin — a fact that some say keeps FDAS from truly competing with crypto-native firms like Coinbase and BitGo. \nJessop said that the lack of a track-record serves as one of the biggest obstacles to institutional adoption of a given cryptocurrency. Since bitcoin has the longest track record, there is a stronger appetite from institutional investors to allocate capital to it compared to cryptocurrencies like Ethereum, according to Jessop. Hence the reason Fidelity isn't supporting it, at the moment. \n\"How do I know that if I buy this thing, it's gonna be around tomorrow? Like what indication of durability or longevity do I have based on the fact that the history of this asset is 10 years old?\" said Jessop. \nIn November, FDAS obtained a trust license from New York regulators to offer custody services to clients in the state. 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The wrapped token can also be exchanged back to FIL.Gemini said FIL tokens will be held in Gemini's storage solution with \"full transparency,\" meaning users can verify the amount of FIL the exchange holds is equal to the total wFIL in current circulation.The Filecoin network is a decentralized alternative to platforms like Amazon Web Services on which users can use FIL to purchase storage space via an open market.In 2017, the open-source project raised $257 million in a two-stage token offering of 200 million FIL.The \"decentralized model offers a compelling alternative to existing centralized cloud storage offerings,\" Gemini's post reads.See also: Gemini Exchange Launches Crypto Trading Against the Euro.","image":{"url":"https://static.coindesk.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/shutterstock_632532662-e1526441836104-1200x628.jpg","_id":"6830808a7982abeb1425b641"},"html":"\u003cdiv id=\"node-0\" class=\"article-pharagraph\">\u003cp class=\"text\">Cryptocurrency exchange Gemini is developing a “Wrapped Filecoin” (wFIL) service enabling the decentralized storage platform’s native token (FIL) to be used on the Ethereum network.\u003c/p>\u003c/div>\u003cdiv id=\"node-1\" class=\"article-list\">\u003cul>\u003cli>In a company \u003ca href=\"https://gemini.com/blog/gemini-is-working-on-a-wrapped-filecoin-service-wfil-join-us\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">blog post\u003c/a> on Monday, U.S.-based Gemini said it was on the hunt to work with Ethereum developers wishing to add wFIL to their own products and platforms.\u003c/li>\u003cli>Once complete, users will be able to convert FIL stored in their exchange accounts to wFIL at a 1:1 ratio, which can then be withdrawn to any Ethereum address. 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deposit contract for Ethereum 2.0 now holds 50,849 Ether (ETH), worth approximately $22 million as of press time.This is slightly less than 10% of the minimum required stake of 524,288 ETH, or $230 million. Ethereum 2.0 is set to launch on Dec. 1 — but only if the minimum stake threshold is reached seven days before that date.Historic balance for the deposit contract by Etherscan.The influx of new deposits appears to have tapered off recently as the majority of prospective stakers joined within the first three days of launch.Ethereum 2.0 stakers must go through a dedicated launchpad to register validators with a 32 ETH stake each. While the same person or entity can stake more, they must set up multiple validators to do so.Staking yields are expected to be below 10%, but that number largely depends on the number of active stakers. As they will compete for the same rewards, new participants will lower the returns for others. Most notably, Ethereum 2.0 deposits cannot be withdrawn or used until some time between the implementation of Phase 1 and Phase 2, which may take years.This may be a significant deterrent for onboarding, as stakers will sacrifice liquidity for relatively low yields and an uncertain lockup period. An informal poll held by Taylor Monahan, CEO of MyCrypto, seems to suggest that the majority of users would not consider it a worthwhile investment.The Ethereum community has another two weeks left to reach the deposit threshold before the launch is delayed. 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Ethereum 2.0 \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-2-0-begins-launch-process-as-deposit-contract-goes-live\">is set to launch on Dec. 1\u003c/a> — but only if the minimum stake threshold is reached seven days before that date.\u003c/p>\u003cfigure>\u003cimg src=\"https://s3.cointelegraph.com/uploads/2020-11/ff25c373-0b14-4ac2-b714-1924a3148c85.png\">\u003cfigcaption style=\"text-align: center;\">\u003cem>Historic balance for the deposit contract by \u003c/em>\u003ca href=\"https://etherscan.io/address/0x00000000219ab540356cbb839cbe05303d7705fa#analytics\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">\u003cem>Etherscan\u003c/em>\u003c/a>\u003cem>.\u003c/em>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\u003cp>The influx of new deposits appears to have tapered off recently as the majority of prospective stakers joined within the first three days of launch.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Ethereum 2.0 stakers must go through a dedicated launchpad to register validators with a 32 ETH stake each. 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I have just been thinking about the best way to engage you guys here because many of you showed a great interest to the NEO and Incognito cooperation and I came up with an idea not to force you to join any discussions but I want to ask you for help. Yes community, I need your help, the help from openminded people who know internal organisation on NEO ecosystem better than anyone else. I decided to ask by conducting RAMA - reflected ask me anything (I have just added the word “reflected” and called the community event set up for asking suggestions from community members as **RAMA**).\n\n`TLDR`\n\n`Give suggestions (replying this post) to Incognito team who to contact in regards to integration for privacy mode for NEO in supported wallets: NEO-GUI, NEO-CLI, O3 Wallet, NEON Wallet, NEO line, etc?`\n\n\n\n**The long version of everything mentioned above.**\n\n**RAMA** is an abbreviation for “reflected ask me anything” that has on its aim to receive community inputs on queries that are important for Incognito to be smoothly integrated with NEO ecosystem with the best ever user’s experience.The concept of **RAMA** reflects oppositely a conventional AMA. The idea is the same - getting responses and answers. As usual, the community asks the project’s authorities for inputs on various queries. 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The partnership was supported by PR in the [NEO Global Monthly Report](https://usethebitcoin.com/neo-releases-global-monthly-report-and-sees-new-privacy-solutions-being-implemented/). But shielding for NEO and operating pNEO only in Incognito app is not the main goal of the interactions btw NEO and Incognito. In Incognito we want make privacy accessible for each NEO user in the wallets you use usually.\n\nSo, the question for this part of the post that’s needed to be answered:\n\n\n\n>What wallet app do you want to integrate privacy mode? Who is the best person to contact with in regards to integration with that wallet?\n\nThanks for 1st input provided by u/shad0w_fax. He suggested NEON with Ledger. Looking forward to getting in touch with their teams.\n\n**We would like to inform you about our progress and technology.**\n\nMeanwhile, we can assume that you probably didn’t have enough time to check what Incognito is yet. 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everyone - huge bitcoin supporter here. I spend a lot of my time debating over in the other subreddit with BCH supporters because I believe BCH is a poor idea that is eventually going to lead to centralization, which Bitcoin can never succumb to. \n\nOver the past year, as bitcoin has become mainstream, we have all witnessed the price skyrocket and have all, in my opinion, become blinded by it. Bitcoin's has a MAJOR issue right now. Simply, day by day, wallets that have less than the minimum amount of satoshi/byte fee that will get a confirm in them are essentially useless/worthless. Also, any form of commerce for bitcoin is essentially impractical now. I was absolutely alarmed when in an interview, Jimmy Song was forced to answer what he would use as \"currency\" if he had to use it for an online transaction, and he said \"Visa\". I immediately realized just how absurd and hard headed the bitcoin community has become in this blocksize debate. People would rather push others wanting to purchase things online with Visa than to improve bitcoin immediately. My main issue with the current state of affairs in bitcoin is that we have lots of people offering us promises, but no immediately solutions. LN has been talked about for years now. So, what are we supposed to do... sit around and HOPE LN is immediately adopted when it comes out and everyone starts using it for low/no fees? I think.... no I KNOW one day it will be adopted, basically making all other cryptos obsolete. However, how far off is this? 1, 2, 3, 4 years? Nobody knows. But in the immediate/short future, what is the bitcoin community supposed to do? Sit around and pretend that $10 fees to make a simple transaction are OK? What happens if other cryptos decide to fill in that vacuum while we sat around waiting for LN, which by the way is not guaranteed to fix this fee issue. Even with LN, most smart people agree that at some point Bitcoin HAS to increase the blocksize. On LN, you still have to be opening/closing channels, plus people are always going to want to use the main blockchain to do transactions for maximum security. \n\nI think it's time the community backs a blocksize increase. We KNOW it has to happen at some point, so why not now? Bitcoin is in a very desperate place. Don't be fooled by this massive price spike. We have to make some serious decisions about what we are gonna do now to fix this. Sit around and wait for LN, or do the inevitable now, and increase the blocksize to 2mb. I'm officially putting my vote in for an immediate blocksize increase to 2mb. \n\nDiscuss and please keep it civil.","updates":31,"time":1513247424000,"first":1513256709626,"totalUpvotes":7737,"score":7817,"nReplies":384,"html":"\u003cp>Hi everyone - huge bitcoin supporter here. I spend a lot of my time debating over in the other subreddit with BCH supporters because I believe BCH is a poor idea that is eventually going to lead to centralization, which Bitcoin can never succumb to. \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Over the past year, as bitcoin has become mainstream, we have all witnessed the price skyrocket and have all, in my opinion, become blinded by it. Bitcoin's has a MAJOR issue right now. Simply, day by day, wallets that have less than the minimum amount of satoshi/byte fee that will get a confirm in them are essentially useless/worthless. Also, any form of commerce for bitcoin is essentially impractical now. I was absolutely alarmed when in an interview, Jimmy Song was forced to answer what he would use as "currency" if he had to use it for an online transaction, and he said "Visa". I immediately realized just how absurd and hard headed the bitcoin community has become in this blocksize debate. People would rather push others wanting to purchase things online with Visa than to improve bitcoin immediately. My main issue with the current state of affairs in bitcoin is that we have lots of people offering us promises, but no immediately solutions. LN has been talked about for years now. So, what are we supposed to do... sit around and HOPE LN is immediately adopted when it comes out and everyone starts using it for low/no fees? I think.... no I KNOW one day it will be adopted, basically making all other cryptos obsolete. However, how far off is this? 1, 2, 3, 4 years? Nobody knows. But in the immediate/short future, what is the bitcoin community supposed to do? Sit around and pretend that $10 fees to make a simple transaction are OK? What happens if other cryptos decide to fill in that vacuum while we sat around waiting for LN, which by the way is not guaranteed to fix this fee issue. Even with LN, most smart people agree that at some point Bitcoin HAS to increase the blocksize. On LN, you still have to be opening/closing channels, plus people are always going to want to use the main blockchain to do transactions for maximum security. \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>I think it's time the community backs a blocksize increase. We KNOW it has to happen at some point, so why not now? Bitcoin is in a very desperate place. Don't be fooled by this massive price spike. We have to make some serious decisions about what we are gonna do now to fix this. Sit around and wait for LN, or do the inevitable now, and increase the blocksize to 2mb. I'm officially putting my vote in for an immediate blocksize increase to 2mb. \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Discuss and please keep it civil.\u003c/p>","origin":"in r/Bitcoin","type":"rpost","__at":"2025-05-23T14:13:15.716Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t3_7jqs9m","icon":"reddit"},"t3_7jr9a2":{"original":{"domain":"self.btc","score":564,"num_comments":432,"gilded":1,"downs":0,"brand_safe":true,"secure_media_embed":{},"media_embed":{},"parent_whitelist_status":"all_ads","whitelist_status":"all_ads","subreddit_name_prefixed":"r/btc","upvote_ratio":0.86,"is_self":true},"title":"I thought Bitcoin Cash was the fraud","author":"ibpointless2","replies":["t1_dr8lqpl","t1_dr8ifel","t1_dr8kwb5","t1_dr8jq8k","t1_dr8jmgh","t1_dr8iglg","t1_dr8igh8","t1_dr8j78n","t1_dr8kdxo","t1_dr8m431","t1_dr8lnsi","t1_dr8it18","t1_dr8ke54","t1_dr8kcxi","t1_dr8kpm6","t1_dr8kph1","t1_dr8mvan","t1_dr8jgob","t1_dr8l0i4","t1_dr8lxtq","t1_dr8n3ex","t1_dr8lwkh","t1_dr8k8o3","t1_dr8k3sl","t1_dr8jr3d","t1_dr8mvl5","t1_dr8qavd","t1_dr8ndwc","t1_dr8xknn","t1_dr8ylwd","t1_dr95tt9","t1_dr8sea0","t1_dr95oob","t1_dr96mkq","t1_dr927gw"],"directReplies":["t1_dr8ifel","t1_dr8igh8","t1_dr8it18","t1_dr8j78n","t1_dr8jgob","t1_dr8jq8k","t1_dr8kcxi","t1_dr8kdxo","t1_dr8kph1","t1_dr8l0i4","t1_dr8lxtq","t1_dr8mvan","t1_dr8qavd"],"upvotes":564,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":1403,"score":1418,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":1063,"score":1074,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"btc","activity":681,"score":688,"relativeScore":0.64},{"topic":"bch","activity":381,"score":384,"relativeScore":0.36}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":1403,"score":1418,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":1063,"score":1074,"relativeScore":1},"btc":{"topic":"btc","activity":681,"score":688,"relativeScore":0.64},"bch":{"topic":"bch","activity":381,"score":384,"relativeScore":0.36},"ltc":{"topic":"ltc","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":0}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"_id":"t3_7jr9a2","timely":true,"source":"reddit.com","url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7jr9a2/i_thought_bitcoin_cash_was_the_fraud/","added":"2019-03-11T15:52:49.098Z","content":"I've slowly been getting into Bitcoin and all the other altcoins. 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