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There are multiple scam GME tokens about. I know apes are hyped about the GME NFT but please be careful.","author":"Safisynai","replies":["t1_gzvtujo","t1_gzw3pse","t1_gzw3tx3","t1_gzvtn6j","t1_gzvbqlu","t1_gzvxhw0","t1_gzx9ar9","t1_gzx8dr8","t1_gzz6cmu","t1_gzx9zsi","t1_gzwalq7","t1_gzvs4vt","t1_gzy7jnv","t1_gzxk0l2","t1_gzxa7os","t1_gzw1bxp","t1_gzwiji6","t1_gzwargb","t1_gzvupko","t1_gzvwkw9","t1_gzvvafh","t1_gzwn363","t1_gzwlbgc","t1_gzwkv2o","t1_gzwaa9l","t1_gzvxg9s","t1_gzw3qzi","t1_gzvr8he","t1_gzv5u23","t1_gzv9z4g","t1_gzvorbj","t1_gzvc3f7","t1_gzvtpim","t1_gzx4ys3","t1_gzv5p9p","t1_gzva477","t1_gzv7his","t1_gzyfbj8","t1_gzx3w6v","t1_gzw43oo","t1_gzvo3yr","t1_gzw491t","t1_gzv8so2","t1_gzvvi8j","t1_gzveylc","t1_gzvbvp5","t1_gzvckr5","t1_gzv7j2k","t1_gzvg1da","t1_gzvhdrn","t1_gzvollk","t1_gzvo2cb","t1_gzvn9ji","t1_gzvnr2l","t1_gzvn9yx","t1_gzvoy6g","t1_gzvpplo","t1_gzvqaug","t1_gzvqibz","t1_gzvvzul","t1_gzvpq11","t1_gzvqeg7","t1_gzvz35p","t1_gzvzt79","t1_gzw1ds7","t1_gzw2ufu","t1_gzw57ha","t1_gzw7i30","t1_gzw7s1f","t1_gzw9nxa","t1_gzwjtos","t1_gzwv50o","t1_gzvsn69"],"directReplies":["t1_gzv5p9p","t1_gzv7his","t1_gzv7j2k","t1_gzv8so2","t1_gzvbvp5","t1_gzvckr5","t1_gzveylc","t1_gzvg1da","t1_gzvhdrn","t1_gzvn9ji","t1_gzvn9yx","t1_gzvo3yr","t1_gzvoy6g","t1_gzvpplo","t1_gzvpq11","t1_gzvqaug","t1_gzvqeg7","t1_gzvqibz","t1_gzvsn69","t1_gzvvi8j","t1_gzvvzul","t1_gzvz35p","t1_gzvzt79","t1_gzw1ds7","t1_gzw2ufu","t1_gzw57ha","t1_gzw7i30","t1_gzw7s1f","t1_gzw9nxa","t1_gzwjtos","t1_gzwv50o"],"upvotes":3780,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":4608,"score":4656,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":3959,"score":4000,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"eth","activity":3796,"score":3835,"relativeScore":0.96}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":4608,"score":4656,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":3959,"score":4000,"relativeScore":1},"eth":{"topic":"eth","activity":3796,"score":3835,"relativeScore":0.96}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[{"_id":"nft.gamestop.com","url":"http://nft.gamestop.com","type":"reference","score":0},{"_id":"etherscan.io/tx/0x89df343d7e245d42a09de2c790c8c471a0956f32b55631a53a15268c56a74c2d","url":"https://etherscan.io/tx/0x89df343d7e245d42a09de2c790c8c471a0956f32b55631a53a15268c56a74c2d","type":"reference"},{"_id":"etherscan.io/tx/0x39cc33bf2eb46bb2dc483c9f685e5f04307ebb9526f6be9027f71bdb71e3e6b6","url":"https://etherscan.io/tx/0x39cc33bf2eb46bb2dc483c9f685e5f04307ebb9526f6be9027f71bdb71e3e6b6","type":"reference"}],"referrals":[],"_id":"t3_nnmf9b","added":"2022-03-18T20:39:32.832Z","source":"reddit.com","url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/nnmf9b/psa_there_are_multiple_scam_gme_tokens_about_i/","content":"**Mods:** I flaired this DD, but please let me know if another flair would be more appropriate.\n\n**Edit:** Added links to the transactions mentioned in this post to back up what was said.\n\nI tend to mostly lurk and don't comment or post things on Reddit a huge amount, but I've been involved with crypto for some time, and GME since January, and this needs to be said before someone ends up getting scammed.\n\nWith the recent teaser about the GameStop NFT (The actual, legitimate token contract address can be found on nft.gamestop.com), people are naturally pretty excited. Many apes are not overly familiar with crypto, and the combination of excitement, FOMO, unfamiliarity with crypto and likelihood of having money to spend (given that apes are buying GME), apes are very attractive targets for crypto scammers.\n\nPlease be super careful at any new token you see bearing the label of \"GME\", \"GME Coin\" or similar. There are a few very important things all apes should be aware of regarding crypto (particularly the E-hereum (name censored because of automod's wordfilter) platform, on which the *actual* GME NFT contract is deployed) to reduce your risk of falling for scams.\n\n**First and most important:**\n\n**Anyone can deploy a token contract, and they can give this token any label they want.** The `name` and `symbol` fields of an ERC-20 (the standard which all fungible (these are different from NFTs, which are covered by the ERC-721 standard) follow) token contract can contain **arbitrary** values set by the deployer of said contract.\n\nJust because a token's symbol is \"GME\" or it's name contains the word \"GameStop\" **does not mean the token has anything whatsoever to do with GameStop Corp.**\n\n**Secondly:**\n\nYou can send a token to any address on the network. The receiving address does not have to actually do anything to receive/accept this token, and indeed, may not even be aware they have been sent this token. Sending tokens to random addresses is a pretty common guerilla marketing tactic for crypto projects, and more often than not, one employed by particularly shady projects (scams, pump & dumps, etc). This is such a common thing that \"token spam\" is a well known phenomena to folk in the crypto space at this point.\n\n**Just because some token is sent to the actual GME NFT contract, does not imply any kind of association with GameStop Corp. Any spammer can send whatever random tokens they want to it.**\n\n**Finally:**\n\nAt the time of writing this message, no legitimate GME NFT units exist; a token contract has been deployed, one unit was created in the [same transaction](https://etherscan.io/tx/0x89df343d7e245d42a09de2c790c8c471a0956f32b55631a53a15268c56a74c2d) as the deployment of the contract (likely either a mistake or a test), and was [burnt](https://etherscan.io/tx/0x39cc33bf2eb46bb2dc483c9f685e5f04307ebb9526f6be9027f71bdb71e3e6b6) (permanently, irrevocably destroyed) shortly thereafter.\n\n**Anyone trying to sell your any kind of \"GME\" token at this point in time is almost certainly trying to scam you.**\n\nTo help explain this, here is an example of just one type of scam that you could potentially fall for:\n\n1. The scammer creates a worthless ERC-20 token and gives it a name and symbol that make it look like it has something to do with GameStop Corp. e.g. they may give it the symbol \"GME\" or name it \"GameStop coin\" or similar. As the creator of this token contract, they can give it whatever rules they want (i.e. they can give themselves as much of it as they desire).\n2. The scammer sends some of these worthless tokens to the actual GME NFT token contract address, to give some extremely thin veneer of legitimacy to it in the eyes of apes who are unfamiliar with crypto. Apes come along, see the actual GME NFT contract has this token and assume that this is proof of legitimacy (**it is not**).\n3. The scammer sells their worthless tokens on a decentralised exchange. On most decentralised exchanges, any ERC-20 token can be traded from the moment it's created; no one needs to manually list the token on the decentralised exchange, nor does anyone need to verify it's legitimate, or even look at it in any way.\n4. Excited apes FOMO into the token and end up giving their money to the scammer, receiving nothing in return but a worthless token.\n\nI've already seen at least one likely attempt at this scam mentioned in the comments here (feel free to look through my comment history where I've been pointing this out). I know everyone is excited, but please, be very careful; crypto transactions are irreversible and if you are scammed, you will not see those funds again - there is no way to undo a transaction, and any competent scammer will likely immediately launder their profits via an anonymous crypto such as M-nero, rendering attempts to track them down impossible.\n\nWhenever handling tokens **always** verify the address of the contracts with which you interact, and compare these against addresses from **known legitimate** sources (such as nft.gamestop.com).\n\n**TA;DR: Don't FOMO into random \"GME\" tokens without actual proof they are legitimate. Stay safe out there!**","first":1647635662968,"html":"\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mods:\u003c/strong> I flaired this DD, but please let me know if another flair would be more appropriate.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Edit:\u003c/strong> Added links to the transactions mentioned in this post to back up what was said.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>I tend to mostly lurk and don't comment or post things on Reddit a huge amount, but I've been involved with crypto for some time, and GME since January, and this needs to be said before someone ends up getting scammed.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>With the recent teaser about the GameStop NFT (The actual, legitimate token contract address can be found on nft.gamestop.com), people are naturally pretty excited. Many apes are not overly familiar with crypto, and the combination of excitement, FOMO, unfamiliarity with crypto and likelihood of having money to spend (given that apes are buying GME), apes are very attractive targets for crypto scammers.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Please be super careful at any new token you see bearing the label of "GME", "GME Coin" or similar. There are a few very important things all apes should be aware of regarding crypto (particularly the E-hereum (name censored because of automod's wordfilter) platform, on which the \u003cem>actual\u003c/em> GME NFT contract is deployed) to reduce your risk of falling for scams.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>First and most important:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Anyone can deploy a token contract, and they can give this token any label they want.\u003c/strong> The \u003ccode>name\u003c/code> and \u003ccode>symbol\u003c/code> fields of an ERC-20 (the standard which all fungible (these are different from NFTs, which are covered by the ERC-721 standard) follow) token contract can contain \u003cstrong>arbitrary\u003c/strong> values set by the deployer of said contract.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Just because a token's symbol is "GME" or it's name contains the word "GameStop" \u003cstrong>does not mean the token has anything whatsoever to do with GameStop Corp.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Secondly:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>You can send a token to any address on the network. The receiving address does not have to actually do anything to receive/accept this token, and indeed, may not even be aware they have been sent this token. Sending tokens to random addresses is a pretty common guerilla marketing tactic for crypto projects, and more often than not, one employed by particularly shady projects (scams, pump & dumps, etc). This is such a common thing that "token spam" is a well known phenomena to folk in the crypto space at this point.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Just because some token is sent to the actual GME NFT contract, does not imply any kind of association with GameStop Corp. Any spammer can send whatever random tokens they want to it.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Finally:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>At the time of writing this message, no legitimate GME NFT units exist; a token contract has been deployed, one unit was created in the \u003ca href=\"https://etherscan.io/tx/0x89df343d7e245d42a09de2c790c8c471a0956f32b55631a53a15268c56a74c2d\">same transaction\u003c/a> as the deployment of the contract (likely either a mistake or a test), and was \u003ca href=\"https://etherscan.io/tx/0x39cc33bf2eb46bb2dc483c9f685e5f04307ebb9526f6be9027f71bdb71e3e6b6\">burnt\u003c/a> (permanently, irrevocably destroyed) shortly thereafter.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Anyone trying to sell your any kind of "GME" token at this point in time is almost certainly trying to scam you.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>To help explain this, here is an example of just one type of scam that you could potentially fall for:\u003c/p>\n\n\u003col>\n\u003cli>The scammer creates a worthless ERC-20 token and gives it a name and symbol that make it look like it has something to do with GameStop Corp. e.g. they may give it the symbol "GME" or name it "GameStop coin" or similar. As the creator of this token contract, they can give it whatever rules they want (i.e. they can give themselves as much of it as they desire).\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The scammer sends some of these worthless tokens to the actual GME NFT token contract address, to give some extremely thin veneer of legitimacy to it in the eyes of apes who are unfamiliar with crypto. Apes come along, see the actual GME NFT contract has this token and assume that this is proof of legitimacy (\u003cstrong>it is not\u003c/strong>).\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>The scammer sells their worthless tokens on a decentralised exchange. On most decentralised exchanges, any ERC-20 token can be traded from the moment it's created; no one needs to manually list the token on the decentralised exchange, nor does anyone need to verify it's legitimate, or even look at it in any way.\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>Excited apes FOMO into the token and end up giving their money to the scammer, receiving nothing in return but a worthless token.\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ol>\n\n\u003cp>I've already seen at least one likely attempt at this scam mentioned in the comments here (feel free to look through my comment history where I've been pointing this out). 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What happened to their projected APR? Well, it went from 7.00% to 6.73%, or from 2.24 eth to 2.15 eth: a loss of roughly 225 dai.\n\nThis might sound expensive, even, but keep in mind that this is not a penalty you will pay, but rather an opportunity loss: you haven't strictly speaking paid anything, you've only missed out on the opportunity to earn more. You've earned 5375 dai instead of 5600 dai — **remember the perspective!**\n\nIn reality, being offline for a whole week is easier said than done: beaconcha.in has a wonderful email/app notification system so you know right away if something isn't right. If you've set up VPN access to your home network, which is extremely simple, fixing things can be done even from the other side of the planet. 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You are incentivized to be online and disincentivized to be offline, but nothing is stopping you from turning your validator off for a day while you move to a new home, or because you accidentally formatted your entire drive. \u003cstrong>You will never be thrown out of the network for missing one attestation: don't worry about it.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Currently, the beacon chain is handing out roughly 7% of the locked up ether in rewards to validators annually. 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Thats really amazing! 61% of circulated supply is staked! \n\n#Cardano #Shelley #Proofofstake\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\n62% 😱 Im pretty suprised about that and starting to think what could be the top? #Cardano #Shelley #Proofofstake\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\n63% 😎\n\n#Cardano #Shelley #Staking #PoS\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\nIs there even a top?! Nearly 65% is staked! \n\n#Cardano #Shelley #ProofofStake #PoS #Blockchain #decentralized #Goguen\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\nAfter a dumb to 59% we are now at 67%! \n\n#Cardano","replyTo":"1301831292410044419","totalUpvotes":45,"score":45,"nReplies":16,"type":"tweet","origin":"","merged":true,"__at":"2025-07-01T15:43:23.324Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"1305122114643656705","html":"Its getting slower and slower but with 50% of the total supply being staked id be very happy. \u003cbr>\u003cbr>\u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#Cardano\u003c/span>\u003cbr>\t\t\t\t\t\u003cbr>\u003cbr>So close to 50%! I love it! \u003cbr>\u003cbr>\u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#Cardano\u003c/span>\u003cbr>\t\t\t\t\t\u003cbr>\u003cbr>BIG achievement!! First time ever we hit 50%!! Really nice to see and im looking forward to see that number at the end of year! 🥳🥳🥳\u003cbr>\u003cbr>\u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#Cardano\u003c/span> \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#shelley\u003c/span>\u003cbr>\t\t\t\t\t\u003cbr>\u003cbr>We are still climbing! Do we really reach 60% at the end of year?! \u003cbr>\u003cbr>\u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#Cardano\u003c/span>\u003cbr>\t\t\t\t\t\u003cbr>\u003cbr>Seems like we took a big step since i checked it the last time! 60% aint fair away anymore!\u003cbr>\u003cbr>\u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#Cardano\u003c/span> \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#Shelley\u003c/span> \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#staking\u003c/span> \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#blockchain\u003c/span> \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#ProofofStake\u003c/span>\u003cbr>\t\t\t\t\t\u003cbr>\u003cbr>We are going step by step towards 60% 🥳\u003cbr>\u003cbr>\u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#Cardano\u003c/span> \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#Shelley\u003c/span> \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#staking\u003c/span> \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#decentralized\u003c/span>\u003cbr>\t\t\t\t\t\u003cbr>\u003cbr>We reached 54%! \u003cbr>\u003cbr>\u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#Cardano\u003c/span> \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#Shelley\u003c/span> \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#staking\u003c/span> \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#decentralized\u003c/span> \u003cspan class=\"bloat\">#ProofOfStake\u003c/span>\u003cbr>\t\t\t\t\t\u003cbr>\u003cbr>Boom! 55% of the circulating supply is now delegated! 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I'm looking into delegating. But I wonder if it is worth delegating say like 4500 Ada. I understand the yield will be around 4% which would be around 180 Ada. But the costs per epoch of delegating to the desirable pools is 340 Ada. If my reasoning is correct there is no incentive to delegate.\n\nAm I right or is my understanding faulty?\n\nThanks.","html":"\u003cp>Hi,\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>so I'm looking into delegating. But I wonder if it is worth delegating say like 4500 Ada. I understand the yield will be around 4% which would be around 180 Ada. But the costs per epoch of delegating to the desirable pools is 340 Ada. If my reasoning is correct there is no incentive to delegate.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Am I right or is my understanding faulty?\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Thanks.\u003c/p>","timely":true,"totalUpvotes":40,"score":64,"nReplies":8,"origin":"in r/cardano","type":"rpost","__at":"2025-07-01T15:43:23.324Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t3_iru785","icon":"reddit"},"t3_irw6iz":{"original":{"subreddit_name_prefixed":"r/cardano","pwls":6,"downs":0,"parent_whitelist_status":"all_ads","upvote_ratio":0.94,"media_embed":{},"is_original_content":false,"author_fullname":"t2_vhiqjj9","secure_media_embed":{},"score":65,"gildings":{},"post_hint":"self","is_self":true,"wls":6,"domain":"self.cardano","allow_live_comments":false,"preview":{"images":[{"source":{"url":"https://external-preview.redd.it/M0TSj6EiuNg8QanuiXcaFx5srFd-9FUJc5O9tyDZJWE.jpg?auto=webp&s=ef5aed2a56c164b8258ef14194e55ef596bb2ee2","width":1024,"height":400},"resolutions":[{"url":"https://external-preview.redd.it/M0TSj6EiuNg8QanuiXcaFx5srFd-9FUJc5O9tyDZJWE.jpg?width=108&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=5bf60f2f1aea420b52b94521b43d88f987302cc8","width":108,"height":42},{"url":"https://external-preview.redd.it/M0TSj6EiuNg8QanuiXcaFx5srFd-9FUJc5O9tyDZJWE.jpg?width=216&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f801078a954542cda0ad71b7a9f8e42ff5783a86","width":216,"height":84},{"url":"https://external-preview.redd.it/M0TSj6EiuNg8QanuiXcaFx5srFd-9FUJc5O9tyDZJWE.jpg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f4cda97a71f3a328f1fd855ac81f3696f14897de","width":320,"height":125},{"url":"https://external-preview.redd.it/M0TSj6EiuNg8QanuiXcaFx5srFd-9FUJc5O9tyDZJWE.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=8e4a1d336e88353553a7e563f319d8cd13fc0322","width":640,"height":250},{"url":"https://external-preview.redd.it/M0TSj6EiuNg8QanuiXcaFx5srFd-9FUJc5O9tyDZJWE.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=3b47634adf589b8704b97645eff292e77b123fd8","width":960,"height":375}],"variants":{},"id":"e8PJbLtgoxM-Ev4RhI2cK2YW4WhjhJrAcftdVW9ol64"}],"enabled":false},"all_awardings":[],"awarders":[],"treatment_tags":[],"is_robot_indexable":true,"num_duplicates":0,"num_comments":20,"send_replies":true,"whitelist_status":"all_ads","subreddit_subscribers":88176},"title":"Cardano Foundations response to concerns about leadership, activity and communication.","author":"todayismycheatday","replies":["t1_g53e0jo","t1_g53id8a","t1_g53o8ip","t1_g53tk0s","t1_g548bqr","t1_g545iwl","t1_g54ava3","t1_g54a42e","t1_g546jmg","t1_g54j9su","t1_g550vx7","t1_g54vw1c","t1_g55406v","t1_g55k4fu","t1_g55jwl8","t1_g55q7q2","t1_g55z87k","t1_g55zc6x","t1_g563niw","t1_g57ebux"],"directReplies":["t1_g53e0jo","t1_g53id8a","t1_g53o8ip","t1_g53tk0s","t1_g545iwl","t1_g546jmg","t1_g54vw1c","t1_g55jwl8","t1_g57ebux"],"upvotes":79,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":132,"score":136,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":111,"score":114,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"ada","activity":111,"score":114,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":132,"score":136,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":111,"score":114,"relativeScore":1},"ada":{"topic":"ada","activity":111,"score":114,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[{"_id":"forum.cardano.org/t/the-cardano-foundation-s-communique-on-recent-organizational-changes-and-community-feedback/40195","url":"https://forum.cardano.org/t/the-cardano-foundation-s-communique-on-recent-organizational-changes-and-community-feedback/40195","type":"reference","score":7.047673170143061},{"_id":"youtube.com/watch?v=TBHUoBMuKrY","url":"https://youtube.com/watch?v=TBHUoBMuKrY","type":"reference"},{"_id":"forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-stay-safe-series-official-community-channel-list/20046","url":"https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-stay-safe-series-official-community-channel-list/20046","type":"reference"},{"_id":"cardanofoundation.org/en/contact-us","url":"https://cardanofoundation.org/en/contact-us","type":"reference","score":0.0005923787534207321},{"_id":"cardanofoundation.org","url":"http://cardanofoundation.org","type":"reference","score":0}],"referrals":[],"_id":"t3_irw6iz","updates":35,"time":1599994251000,"first":1599995172169,"source":"reddit.com","url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/cardano/comments/irw6iz/cardano_foundations_response_to_concerns_about/","added":"2020-09-15T09:09:14.827Z","content":" Copied from: [https://forum.cardano.org/t/the-cardano-foundation-s-communique-on-recent-organizational-changes-and-community-feedback/40195](https://forum.cardano.org/t/the-cardano-foundation-s-communique-on-recent-organizational-changes-and-community-feedback/40195)\n\n# The Cardano Foundation’s communiqué on recent organizational changes and community feedback\n\n*(Written by the Cardano Foundation team)*\n\nThe recent staffing changes within the Community Management department has raised various questions in the community.\n\nSome community members have stated that they no longer feel adequately heard by the Cardano Foundation. Likewise, there is a concern that the work, which has been done by the Community Management team, will not be continued or will not be properly monitored by the Foundation following the recent staffing changes; or that two-way communication channels will be lost.\n\nRick McCracken, one of our community members, shared a video on 2 September 2020, via his personal YouTube channel, to draw attention to a perceived lack of communication and dissatisfaction.\n\nHe posed some questions surrounding the current leadership and the further practice of community management at the Cardano Foundation, which we are glad to address here. All questions—whether hard or easy—are always welcome, and we need to constantly reevaluate our processes to create a better Cardano, improve its reputation, and expedite widespread adoption.\n\nThere are also healthy discussions with the community on producing a public roadmap for the Cardano Foundation, and this focus group has expressed diverse goals. These include setting out community expectations, providing more guidance, and offering help to the Cardano Foundation.\n\nThe Cardano Foundation always welcomes and actively encourages our valued community to congregate, discuss, and suggest ideas. You act as an extension of our team in our efforts to achieve our missions, and you complement our work to drive the adoption of Cardano. The ongoing community effort is a clear signal that our community is mature and willing to go the extra mile to build a global social and financial operating system. This is an effort that will take years of dedication and patience, but we are confident that together we will get there.\n\nThe Cardano Foundation has collected and examined the community’s questions and identified two common themes:\n\n\n\n1. There is a desire for better transparency from the Cardano Foundation, in regards to current workstreams, achievements, and the leadership of the Cardano Foundation; \n \n2. There is a desire to maintain the current two-way communication channels between the Cardano Foundation’s team and the community in light of recent staffing changes. \n \n\nWe would like to take this opportunity to ensure you that we are on the right track as an organization, and we will address these wider themes below.\n\n## Does the Cardano Foundation have a leadership problem?\n\nNo, the Cardano Foundation does not have a leadership problem—we have a very committed Council and a diverse leadership team assembled from multidisciplinary fields, including representatives from EMURGO and IOHK. In addition, we will soon be bringing a CEO on board to steer the Cardano Foundation even closer towards its missions.\n\nAs blockchain and distributed ledger technologies (DLT) become more mainstream, it is evident that the Foundation is on the right path with its plans to bring talented persons with diverse capabilities onboard, and to maximize the adoption of the Cardano protocol. The current leadership has assembled a team of talented individuals and we have grown from less than five team members (excluding the Council) at the beginning of 2019, to an entire team of almost 30 people today—an incredible achievement, which brings the Cardano Foundation closer to delivering on its missions.\n\nInvesting in talent and adding more skills at the Cardano Foundation is absolutely critical—as our ecosystem partner IOHK delivers the technology of tomorrow, we must be ready for maximal impact and widespread adoption. As such, we will further strengthen the Foundation’s team, add more skills, and keep close contact with the community on ways we prioritize implementation that will bring us closer to the Cardano vision.\n\nAll of our new team members introduce themselves on our forums, and you are always encouraged to reach out to every single one of them in case of questions—either to find out more about their role or just learn more about them. The entire Cardano Foundation, including the leadership team, is very easy to approach.\n\nStaffing changes are a normal course of business—we have only had four changes over a two-year period—and we will continue to be very effective with our growing team. Our growth as a Foundation has only just begun and we are glad you are with us during this trying journey—holding us accountable along the way and asking testing questions.\n\n## Is there a plan in place for the Community Management team?\n\nYes, of course, there is a plan in place to expand and further strengthen the community management function within the Foundation. While we recognize that a change in the Community Management team may raise some questions, we would like to highlight that we have multiple strong and capable Community Managers, who continue to lead and serve the best interests of the community, the Cardano protocol, and the Cardano Foundation diligently, and with the full support of the rest of the Foundation.\n\nYou will know many of these Community Managers personally, they are the face of the Foundation, and we rely on them heavily to gather your concerns and communicate with you on a daily basis. In fact, we have onboarded many former Cardano Ambassadors as Community Managers to our ranks since 2019.\n\nWe kindly ask that our wider community respects the work of our current Community Management team—they do a fantastic job overall and these past couple of weeks have been tough on them.\n\n## Keeping two-way communications open and transparent\n\nWe always welcome and encourage open and transparent dialogue with our valued community and everyone else. We have processes in place to ensure two-way communication channels remain open and transparent, to that extent, every team member of the Cardano Foundation is reachable. Together through frank discussions we can accelerate our missions.\n\nThe entire team has a great deal of autonomy within the Cardano Foundation, in keeping with our decentralized roots. When a question is asked by the community or the wider public, any team member of the Cardano Foundation—irrespective of their role—is empowered to reach out for answers.\n\nWe have well-established internal procedures for addressing community and any other feedback. Usually, the frontline for community feedback is our Community Managers, and questions are escalated internally as needed through our organizational channels. In every instance, senior leadership and Council members are aware, and when required they step in to support.\n\nMany of our communications channels have been established by our Community Management team. For example, our YouTube channel, which features our Davos Diaries, yearly reviews, and educational content, was produced by our Community Management and former German Ambassador Tommy Kammerer (unfortunately, due to Covid-19 restrictions our filming schedules have considerably shifted).\n\nSimilarly, Tiago Serôdio in Portugal has led the hugely successful Phase 2 (Rewards) of the Ambassador Program. Niels Schoof, another former Ambassador, established a dedicated channel, LINE, for our Japanese-speaking community—making Cardano content accessible for more people.\n\nRyan He in Shanghai has grown our Chinese-speaking community many times over, and Andy Hendrikx, former Ambassador from the Netherlands, has been evangelizing Cardano since the first exchange listing in 2017 and promotes the protocol in the Dutch-speaking world.\n\nAll of our team members as well as our Community Managers produce valuable contributions to Cardano every single day, and they are invaluable for keeping our community together. We would like to ask you, our community, to recognize the contributions our current team has made and will continue to make long into the future of the Cardano Foundation.\n\nWe also invite you to read our regular updates on the Cardano Forum and our official websites.\n\n## The current set-up of the Cardano Foundation\n\nThe Cardano Foundation in its current form is the result of multiple phases of development both as an organization and alongside the needs of the evolving Cardano protocol.\n\nYou have all helped shape the Cardano Foundation through various initiatives and your active contributions to the Ambassador Program. We can assure you that we are on solid fundamentals, employ agile methods, and we have achieved so much since the new administration came on board. Let’s recap on where we have been, and where we are heading.\n\nPast – Present plan\n\n\n\n* **Phase 1:** Nathan Kaiser, Domino Burki and Manmeet Singh took over as Council Members at the end of 2018. The focus in 2019 was on putting the Cardano Foundation on the right track (more than a 100 control measures were implemented), hiring key people, and bringing the operational basis to one that is compliant and sustainable. In 2019, we had less than five full-time staff members—we are now a team of almost 30 people in more than 20 locations of the planet, with women making up over a third of the personnel. \n \n* **Phase 2:** In December 2019, Nicolás Arqueros and Tamara Haasen joined the Council to bring additional skills to the Council (Nicolás in Technology, Tamara in Human Resources). Additionally, the Cardano Foundation grew further, bringing additional skills into the team. \n \n* **Phase 3:** In March 2020, the Cardano Foundation initiated a [strategy workshop 4](https://youtu.be/TBHUoBMuKrY) for all of our Cardano ecosystem partners to harmonize various streams, align and agree on the next steps for the protocol. As a result of this gathering of more than 50 people from all three entities, various workstreams—not only for the Cardano Foundation—but for Cardano as a whole were established. The efforts of the workstreams from all three entities are ongoing and will take a considerable amount of time until full fruition. Phase 3 saw the Cardano Foundation’s team growing further, and also saw initiatives, such as the Ambassador Program’s Phase 2 (Rewards), Project Renovare, the WEF at Davos, the rollout of RFPs and CIPs, and the release of Shelley. \n \n\nFuture set-up\n\n\n\n* **Phase 4:** Starting when our new CEO joins in November 2020 or earlier, the Cardano Foundation will reach a phase where we have solid, compliant, and sustainable operations, and now need to laser focus on adoption, partnerships, and third-party integrations. The Cardano Foundation will also take over key responsibilities from IOHK later this year. \n \n* **Phase 5:** Will start with the launch of Goguen, smart contracts, DApps, Marlowe DSL financial contract, and a whole host of enterprise partners joining the Cardano ecosystem when IOHK delivers this innovative technology. \n \n\n## The community-led roadmap and future of Cardano\n\nWe welcome the recent community-led initiative to produce a roadmap for the Cardano Foundation.\n\nOur needs, the needs of the community, and the needs of the protocol are dynamically evolving and are heavily interdependent on all involved ecosystem partners—such as EMURGO and IOHK. An agile roadmap for an innovative technology, such as blockchain, is advantageous especially when there are numerous interdependencies and many involved parties.\n\nGiven the close collaboration between the three entities and the community, any roadmap should be inclusive of all Cardano organizations—providing actionable, tangible and measurable suggestions. All three entities have the best interests of Cardano at heart and act as one ecosystem, and as such the roadmap should be inclusive of all stakeholders and Cardano as a whole.\n\nYes, we need to be more transparent with our agile goals with our community and wider public. Therefore, current initiatives are very welcome, and they compliment our work, empower us to advance our missions knowing we have our community’s support and we encourage any initiative that will bring us closer to achieving our goals of adoption.\n\nIn our efforts to achieve our goals, hiring and building a world-class team takes time and patience. Firstly, it requires time and has a long funnel, and secondly, we have also focused on building the teams to be ready for the product launches as and when they occur, and this continues to be the case.\n\nFor example, in the lead-up to and immediately after the Shelley release we brought nine new team members across multiple functions within the Foundation, and we currently have open positions for technical staff ahead of Goguen. We do not have a staff turnover problem, in fact, we are growing at an unprecedented rate in a sustainable manner.\n\n## Further questions, follow-up answers, and your feedback\n\nOur goals and mission at the Cardano Foundation are multiple and diverse. You, the community, are a crucial area of focus for us, and you keep us accountable and transparent. In addition, we have wider goals and we gladly can elaborate on these.\n\nWe are responsible for bringing together multiple stakeholders, including our ecosystem partners, to build on and explore the Cardano protocol. This is no easy task. For example, our work with legislators and regulators, just one facet of what we do, takes years of behind-the-scenes work to reach major milestones.\n\nThe same is true for enterprise relationships and attracting established businesses to the Cardano blockchain. Many of the Foundation’s leadership are busy delivering on these projects. Because of this, it may seem that they are not always visible in community channels—but they are available and interested in your feedback.\n\nLastly, we would encourage you to submit feedback and even tough questions directly to our Community Management team, or through dedicated [channels 6](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-stay-safe-series-official-community-channel-list/20046) such as our [contact form 4](https://cardanofoundation.org/en/contact-us/) on [cardanofoundation.org](http://cardanofoundation.org/).\n\nThis is important for us to be able to collect and formally respond to feedback. Questions asked in busy public Telegram or YouTube channels quickly get lost in the midst of hundreds of messages, or even worse become easy points of attack for bad actors and damage Cardano’s brand and its reputation—hampering our adoption efforts.\n\nWe will be answering more of the community’s questions in a dedicated session on the Cardano Effect podcast. We invite you all to take part and leave your feedback, and once again we sincerely thank you for holding us to account and keeping the Cardano Foundation and the entire Cardano ecosystem fit for purpose for every stakeholder.\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\nThis is the response to this video and some recent threads on r/Cardano with concerns about the Cardano Foundation: \"Does the Cardano Foundation have a leadership problem?\" https://youtu.be/v8gwrgCV5i4\n\nAnd this is what Rick and other pool operators/community members responded with to improve the communication and general situation: \"Building a public roadmap for the Cardano Foundation: First draft\" https://youtu.be/r3LNBCWy6TY\n\nThey created a Telegram group to discuss this: t.me/BuildTheRoadmap\n\nThere are Cardano Foundation council members actively working with them. Here is a first review with a lot of community members, Tamara Haasen (CCO of IOHK and CF council member), Nicolás Arqueros (CTO of Emurgo and CF council member) and others: \"Cardano Public Roadmap | First Review\" https://youtu.be/iyqmfM6X8Fc\n\nGreat work!","image":{"url":"https://external-preview.redd.it/M0TSj6EiuNg8QanuiXcaFx5srFd-9FUJc5O9tyDZJWE.jpg?auto=webp&s=ef5aed2a56c164b8258ef14194e55ef596bb2ee2","width":1024,"height":400,"_id":"6864021bbc7697fc3e6dfb6a"},"html":"\u003cp>Copied from: \u003ca href=\"https://forum.cardano.org/t/the-cardano-foundation-s-communique-on-recent-organizational-changes-and-community-feedback/40195\">https://forum.cardano.org/t/the-cardano-foundation-s-communique-on-recent-organizational-changes-and-community-feedback/40195\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003ch1>The Cardano Foundation’s communiqué on recent organizational changes and community feedback\u003c/h1>\n\n\u003cp>\u003cem>(Written by the Cardano Foundation team)\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>The recent staffing changes within the Community Management department has raised various questions in the community.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Some community members have stated that they no longer feel adequately heard by the Cardano Foundation. Likewise, there is a concern that the work, which has been done by the Community Management team, will not be continued or will not be properly monitored by the Foundation following the recent staffing changes; or that two-way communication channels will be lost.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Rick McCracken, one of our community members, shared a video on 2 September 2020, via his personal YouTube channel, to draw attention to a perceived lack of communication and dissatisfaction.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>He posed some questions surrounding the current leadership and the further practice of community management at the Cardano Foundation, which we are glad to address here. All questions—whether hard or easy—are always welcome, and we need to constantly reevaluate our processes to create a better Cardano, improve its reputation, and expedite widespread adoption.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>There are also healthy discussions with the community on producing a public roadmap for the Cardano Foundation, and this focus group has expressed diverse goals. These include setting out community expectations, providing more guidance, and offering help to the Cardano Foundation.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>The Cardano Foundation always welcomes and actively encourages our valued community to congregate, discuss, and suggest ideas. You act as an extension of our team in our efforts to achieve our missions, and you complement our work to drive the adoption of Cardano. The ongoing community effort is a clear signal that our community is mature and willing to go the extra mile to build a global social and financial operating system. This is an effort that will take years of dedication and patience, but we are confident that together we will get there.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>The Cardano Foundation has collected and examined the community’s questions and identified two common themes:\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003col>\n\u003cli>\u003cp>There is a desire for better transparency from the Cardano Foundation, in regards to current workstreams, achievements, and the leadership of the Cardano Foundation; \u003c/p>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cp>There is a desire to maintain the current two-way communication channels between the Cardano Foundation’s team and the community in light of recent staffing changes. \u003c/p>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ol>\n\n\u003cp>We would like to take this opportunity to ensure you that we are on the right track as an organization, and we will address these wider themes below.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003ch2>Does the Cardano Foundation have a leadership problem?\u003c/h2>\n\n\u003cp>No, the Cardano Foundation does not have a leadership problem—we have a very committed Council and a diverse leadership team assembled from multidisciplinary fields, including representatives from EMURGO and IOHK. In addition, we will soon be bringing a CEO on board to steer the Cardano Foundation even closer towards its missions.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>As blockchain and distributed ledger technologies (DLT) become more mainstream, it is evident that the Foundation is on the right path with its plans to bring talented persons with diverse capabilities onboard, and to maximize the adoption of the Cardano protocol. The current leadership has assembled a team of talented individuals and we have grown from less than five team members (excluding the Council) at the beginning of 2019, to an entire team of almost 30 people today—an incredible achievement, which brings the Cardano Foundation closer to delivering on its missions.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Investing in talent and adding more skills at the Cardano Foundation is absolutely critical—as our ecosystem partner IOHK delivers the technology of tomorrow, we must be ready for maximal impact and widespread adoption. As such, we will further strengthen the Foundation’s team, add more skills, and keep close contact with the community on ways we prioritize implementation that will bring us closer to the Cardano vision.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>All of our new team members introduce themselves on our forums, and you are always encouraged to reach out to every single one of them in case of questions—either to find out more about their role or just learn more about them. The entire Cardano Foundation, including the leadership team, is very easy to approach.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Staffing changes are a normal course of business—we have only had four changes over a two-year period—and we will continue to be very effective with our growing team. Our growth as a Foundation has only just begun and we are glad you are with us during this trying journey—holding us accountable along the way and asking testing questions.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003ch2>Is there a plan in place for the Community Management team?\u003c/h2>\n\n\u003cp>Yes, of course, there is a plan in place to expand and further strengthen the community management function within the Foundation. While we recognize that a change in the Community Management team may raise some questions, we would like to highlight that we have multiple strong and capable Community Managers, who continue to lead and serve the best interests of the community, the Cardano protocol, and the Cardano Foundation diligently, and with the full support of the rest of the Foundation.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>You will know many of these Community Managers personally, they are the face of the Foundation, and we rely on them heavily to gather your concerns and communicate with you on a daily basis. In fact, we have onboarded many former Cardano Ambassadors as Community Managers to our ranks since 2019.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>We kindly ask that our wider community respects the work of our current Community Management team—they do a fantastic job overall and these past couple of weeks have been tough on them.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003ch2>Keeping two-way communications open and transparent\u003c/h2>\n\n\u003cp>We always welcome and encourage open and transparent dialogue with our valued community and everyone else. We have processes in place to ensure two-way communication channels remain open and transparent, to that extent, every team member of the Cardano Foundation is reachable. Together through frank discussions we can accelerate our missions.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>The entire team has a great deal of autonomy within the Cardano Foundation, in keeping with our decentralized roots. When a question is asked by the community or the wider public, any team member of the Cardano Foundation—irrespective of their role—is empowered to reach out for answers.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>We have well-established internal procedures for addressing community and any other feedback. Usually, the frontline for community feedback is our Community Managers, and questions are escalated internally as needed through our organizational channels. In every instance, senior leadership and Council members are aware, and when required they step in to support.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Many of our communications channels have been established by our Community Management team. For example, our YouTube channel, which features our Davos Diaries, yearly reviews, and educational content, was produced by our Community Management and former German Ambassador Tommy Kammerer (unfortunately, due to Covid-19 restrictions our filming schedules have considerably shifted).\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Similarly, Tiago Serôdio in Portugal has led the hugely successful Phase 2 (Rewards) of the Ambassador Program. Niels Schoof, another former Ambassador, established a dedicated channel, LINE, for our Japanese-speaking community—making Cardano content accessible for more people.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Ryan He in Shanghai has grown our Chinese-speaking community many times over, and Andy Hendrikx, former Ambassador from the Netherlands, has been evangelizing Cardano since the first exchange listing in 2017 and promotes the protocol in the Dutch-speaking world.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>All of our team members as well as our Community Managers produce valuable contributions to Cardano every single day, and they are invaluable for keeping our community together. We would like to ask you, our community, to recognize the contributions our current team has made and will continue to make long into the future of the Cardano Foundation.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>We also invite you to read our regular updates on the Cardano Forum and our official websites.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003ch2>The current set-up of the Cardano Foundation\u003c/h2>\n\n\u003cp>The Cardano Foundation in its current form is the result of multiple phases of development both as an organization and alongside the needs of the evolving Cardano protocol.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>You have all helped shape the Cardano Foundation through various initiatives and your active contributions to the Ambassador Program. We can assure you that we are on solid fundamentals, employ agile methods, and we have achieved so much since the new administration came on board. Let’s recap on where we have been, and where we are heading.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Past – Present plan\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Phase 1:\u003c/strong> Nathan Kaiser, Domino Burki and Manmeet Singh took over as Council Members at the end of 2018. The focus in 2019 was on putting the Cardano Foundation on the right track (more than a 100 control measures were implemented), hiring key people, and bringing the operational basis to one that is compliant and sustainable. In 2019, we had less than five full-time staff members—we are now a team of almost 30 people in more than 20 locations of the planet, with women making up over a third of the personnel. \u003c/p>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Phase 2:\u003c/strong> In December 2019, Nicolás Arqueros and Tamara Haasen joined the Council to bring additional skills to the Council (Nicolás in Technology, Tamara in Human Resources). Additionally, the Cardano Foundation grew further, bringing additional skills into the team. \u003c/p>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Phase 3:\u003c/strong> In March 2020, the Cardano Foundation initiated a \u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/TBHUoBMuKrY\">strategy workshop 4\u003c/a> for all of our Cardano ecosystem partners to harmonize various streams, align and agree on the next steps for the protocol. As a result of this gathering of more than 50 people from all three entities, various workstreams—not only for the Cardano Foundation—but for Cardano as a whole were established. The efforts of the workstreams from all three entities are ongoing and will take a considerable amount of time until full fruition. Phase 3 saw the Cardano Foundation’s team growing further, and also saw initiatives, such as the Ambassador Program’s Phase 2 (Rewards), Project Renovare, the WEF at Davos, the rollout of RFPs and CIPs, and the release of Shelley. \u003c/p>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\u003cp>Future set-up\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Phase 4:\u003c/strong> Starting when our new CEO joins in November 2020 or earlier, the Cardano Foundation will reach a phase where we have solid, compliant, and sustainable operations, and now need to laser focus on adoption, partnerships, and third-party integrations. The Cardano Foundation will also take over key responsibilities from IOHK later this year. \u003c/p>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Phase 5:\u003c/strong> Will start with the launch of Goguen, smart contracts, DApps, Marlowe DSL financial contract, and a whole host of enterprise partners joining the Cardano ecosystem when IOHK delivers this innovative technology. \u003c/p>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\n\u003ch2>The community-led roadmap and future of Cardano\u003c/h2>\n\n\u003cp>We welcome the recent community-led initiative to produce a roadmap for the Cardano Foundation.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Our needs, the needs of the community, and the needs of the protocol are dynamically evolving and are heavily interdependent on all involved ecosystem partners—such as EMURGO and IOHK. An agile roadmap for an innovative technology, such as blockchain, is advantageous especially when there are numerous interdependencies and many involved parties.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Given the close collaboration between the three entities and the community, any roadmap should be inclusive of all Cardano organizations—providing actionable, tangible and measurable suggestions. All three entities have the best interests of Cardano at heart and act as one ecosystem, and as such the roadmap should be inclusive of all stakeholders and Cardano as a whole.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Yes, we need to be more transparent with our agile goals with our community and wider public. Therefore, current initiatives are very welcome, and they compliment our work, empower us to advance our missions knowing we have our community’s support and we encourage any initiative that will bring us closer to achieving our goals of adoption.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>In our efforts to achieve our goals, hiring and building a world-class team takes time and patience. Firstly, it requires time and has a long funnel, and secondly, we have also focused on building the teams to be ready for the product launches as and when they occur, and this continues to be the case.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>For example, in the lead-up to and immediately after the Shelley release we brought nine new team members across multiple functions within the Foundation, and we currently have open positions for technical staff ahead of Goguen. We do not have a staff turnover problem, in fact, we are growing at an unprecedented rate in a sustainable manner.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003ch2>Further questions, follow-up answers, and your feedback\u003c/h2>\n\n\u003cp>Our goals and mission at the Cardano Foundation are multiple and diverse. You, the community, are a crucial area of focus for us, and you keep us accountable and transparent. In addition, we have wider goals and we gladly can elaborate on these.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>We are responsible for bringing together multiple stakeholders, including our ecosystem partners, to build on and explore the Cardano protocol. This is no easy task. For example, our work with legislators and regulators, just one facet of what we do, takes years of behind-the-scenes work to reach major milestones.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>The same is true for enterprise relationships and attracting established businesses to the Cardano blockchain. Many of the Foundation’s leadership are busy delivering on these projects. Because of this, it may seem that they are not always visible in community channels—but they are available and interested in your feedback.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Lastly, we would encourage you to submit feedback and even tough questions directly to our Community Management team, or through dedicated \u003ca href=\"https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-stay-safe-series-official-community-channel-list/20046\">channels 6\u003c/a> such as our \u003ca href=\"https://cardanofoundation.org/en/contact-us/\">contact form 4\u003c/a> on \u003ca href=\"http://cardanofoundation.org/\">cardanofoundation.org\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>This is important for us to be able to collect and formally respond to feedback. Questions asked in busy public Telegram or YouTube channels quickly get lost in the midst of hundreds of messages, or even worse become easy points of attack for bad actors and damage Cardano’s brand and its reputation—hampering our adoption efforts.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>We will be answering more of the community’s questions in a dedicated session on the Cardano Effect podcast. We invite you all to take part and leave your feedback, and once again we sincerely thank you for holding us to account and keeping the Cardano Foundation and the entire Cardano ecosystem fit for purpose for every stakeholder.\u003c/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\u003cbr class=\"merged\">\u003cbr>\u003cp>This is the response to this video and some recent threads on \u003ca href=\"/r/Cardano\">r/Cardano\u003c/a> with concerns about the Cardano Foundation: "Does the Cardano Foundation have a leadership problem?" \u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/v8gwrgCV5i4\">https://youtu.be/v8gwrgCV5i4\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>And this is what Rick and other pool operators/community members responded with to improve the communication and general situation: "Building a public roadmap for the Cardano Foundation: First draft" \u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/r3LNBCWy6TY\">https://youtu.be/r3LNBCWy6TY\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>They created a Telegram group to discuss this: t.me/BuildTheRoadmap\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>There are Cardano Foundation council members actively working with them. 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We should have a transparent review process for Cardano Ambassador applications.\n\nHello everyone I am Eystein Hansen a community member who has been around since december 2017 and I run the staking pool family of adanorthpool ([www.adanorthpool.com](http://www.adanorthpool.com)). I am not satisfied with the transparency of the Cardano Ambassador Program and how we create ambassadors for the community.\n\nIn June when fase 2 of the ambassador program was launched ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8qEvSJq36A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8qEvSJq36A)) and with a call for more people to apply for the ambassador program I decided to apply for Content Creator.\n\nA few days ago I got an email rejecting my application with the following reason: \"Specifically, your application was denied because the number of Ambassador openings is limited, and we’re not able to accept every candidate. In some cases this may be because our overall number of slots is limited, and other candidates were selected before you. In other cases, certain Ambassadors (particularly Moderators) are subject to limitations based on need—for example, once we have a certain number of moderators for a particular community channel, it doesn’t make sense to add more.\"\n\nI find that ironic giving they launched a call for for more people to apply and (A) if they have limited slots at this time then they should inform about this at the time of applying and (B) if I was weighted and found to light I would like to know what went into that weighting process. I think it makes sense that if we want to encourage more ambassadors (and the video in june seems to suggest so) then what goes into such a process should be more transparent so people can learn and develop the material and skills that the cardano foundation wants from its ambassadors.What I would wish for in the future is that we learn from ideascale and have reviewers that write an explanation so that applicants for the Ambassador programs can learn/develop the skills so we can have as many Ambassadors as possible. In a period of what is supposed to be a heavy market campaign I do not understand why we are going to limit slots for content creation.\n\nUpdate 13 september: I discussed on telegram today with a community manager and he informed me it was not my application submitted that was rejected but a rejection of a proposal another ambassador. They also seem to not have recieved my application for some reason. If this is the case it shines another light on my individual application obviously so there is still hope for me and I am going to consider if I will resubmit an application, but i still stand by what I am asking for more transparency. When the email only says \"you did not qualify to become an Ambassador\" and then only says this is \"number of Ambassador spots is limited\" then 1) how should I know this was not my application but for another proposal and 2) how should we get more content creators when there are a few limited spots and where we do not even know why we where not selected compared with someone else?\n\nRegarding (B) here is some factors to judge me on from signs of commitment to the ecosystem and since I applied for a content creator my video and written content material:\n\nSigns of commitment: (while not direct qualification material it signals effort and drive to help the community)\n\n\\- I was a guardian helping reshape the CF. Most guardians are either working for CF or Ambassadors and have shown a genuine interest to help support the Cardano Ecosystem.\n\n\\- I am a stake pool operator since start of ITN december 2019 (and before that testnets) with over 5000usd investments in computer equipment to help support network health of Cardano Ecosystem.\n\n\\- I commited to data analysis during the testnet and ITN that helped other ambassadors write content and helped the community understand network health better. (cardano guild metrics)\n\n\\- Participated in individual feedback for McCann (1,5 hours) and in design feedback groups.\n\n\\- Participated in feedback on SPO school (2 hours from two meetings).\n\n\\- Participated and participating in Catalyst (ongoing with weekly meetings and writing of ideas and commenting on documents they are creating).\n\n\\- Participated and part of friends and family (too many hours to count probably in the range of 200+ hours if I count everything from meetings to doing video tutorials etc). This included mentoring two operators, now one is a major author to Cntools and the other an active SPO in the community.\n\n\\- Formed an interstaking pool peer agreement (isppa.info)- Donating CPU power to the Cardano team folding@home effort (nr 1 contributor) [https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/244483](https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/244483)\n\n\\- Donating to Kiva lending platform for the Cardano Community team ( [https://www.kiva.org/team/cardano\\_community](https://www.kiva.org/team/cardano_community))\n\n\\- Submitted ideas for voting on the treasury system, among them something I believe is key (A) voting media ([https://cardano.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Cardano-Voter-Media/316153-48088](https://cardano.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Cardano-Voter-Media/316153-48088)) so we can get easy access to information on treasury voting issues and B) research into how the community can solve governance such as what platforms do we use for our experts or\n\nhow do we break down decision making process into its steps and what are some more experimental models of voting we can apply research into (OGRE - [https://cardano.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Decentralized-Gov-Community-Group/316323-48088](https://cardano.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Decentralized-Gov-Community-Group/316323-48088))\n\nVideo Content:\n\n\\- I did an 1 hour long presentation at the Cardano Virtual Summit ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t\\_atG6fHW7Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_atG6fHW7Q))\n\n\\- During the FF i mentored 2 stake pool operators and published 3 tutorial videoes of around 30 minute lengths (deleted now as they are no longer current with new updates to cardano-node)\n\n\\- Several small videoes like for example the call for stake pool operators to present themselves to the world on a map ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXFZcg0OD58](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXFZcg0OD58)) or dawn of Shelley on the day of Shelley launch ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75YS1hEpZNY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75YS1hEpZNY))\n\n\\- Promotional videos showing I can master well the video media format (Hw intro: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj117hg3HUI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj117hg3HUI) , pool intro: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrGaSI0XgQo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrGaSI0XgQo))\n\n\\- Participated in 4 episodes of the Cardano Effect - Episode 58, 64, 69 and 100.\n\nWritten Content:\n\n\\- Wrote a look on marketing forces [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1kyMW8-Zp94X4TQsmysO0gbglAaWC5e5zLC4OQIMQw8I](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1kyMW8-Zp94X4TQsmysO0gbglAaWC5e5zLC4OQIMQw8I)\n\n\\- Bitlaw a look into legal domain specific languages with summary of several research articles for the community: [https://forum.cardano.org/t/bitlaw-a-legal-system-with-a-dsl-for-cardano-governance/18887](https://forum.cardano.org/t/bitlaw-a-legal-system-with-a-dsl-for-cardano-governance/18887)\n\n\\- Made a large number of Ubuntu tweaks ranging from tcp/ip tweak to network kernel tweaks, also inspired guides like ILAP’s guide (thanks ILAP for crediting me on this btw!) to use Chrony that now seems a standard or Chris’s usage of google BBR.\n\n\\- Wrote SPO presentation [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Sl75AWCEUJxesNlfEchQXzSul7o6K2G9DVCAB9VP4sY](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Sl75AWCEUJxesNlfEchQXzSul7o6K2G9DVCAB9VP4sY)\n\n\\- Family connect presentation (idea for future project): [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1i8n5OxkMLwJDohpfOktiNp44ncQNnSuopnSOqqpPxFc](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1i8n5OxkMLwJDohpfOktiNp44ncQNnSuopnSOqqpPxFc)\n\n\\- Community roadmap governance suggestions on governance ([https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aGiNOb3kwlziHY5z-LMzXJ1zKXSHo9d8/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aGiNOb3kwlziHY5z-LMzXJ1zKXSHo9d8/view)) I have since withdrawn from this effort but anyone is free to use my work material.\n\n\\- collected and analyzed the data and gave feedback to ITN developers from inter staking pool peering agreement group. [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19sGY7l9i45VpXmmtGP0dsjc7vKnsa0oDZRVKuJ1WpC8](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19sGY7l9i45VpXmmtGP0dsjc7vKnsa0oDZRVKuJ1WpC8))\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\nThank you so much for the support guys, truly heartwarming, however it seems to be a giant misunderstanding when it comes to my own application so I am considering resubmitting. It seems they did not recieve my application and the rejection was explained to me today by a community manager it was for a nomination but the wording in the email does in no way make this clear as it is talking about \" we have to notify you that you didn’t qualify to become an Ambassador.\" So I wonder how they expected me to know that this was not me applying for an ambassador role when that is what the email states. \n\nI still stand by the words on more transparency. When I wrote this many came forward some have not even gotten any responce, others have no idea why they where rejected. And there is so many talented people in this community wanting to contribute so I do not understand why we do not utilize this better. If we have more clear and transparent review processes then people can learn from that, improve and resubmit and we as a community get more ambassadors doing good work for all of us so we all win.","html":"\u003cp>TLDR: We should have a transparent review process for Cardano Ambassador applications.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Hello everyone I am Eystein Hansen a community member who has been around since december 2017 and I run the staking pool family of adanorthpool (\u003ca href=\"http://www.adanorthpool.com\">www.adanorthpool.com\u003c/a>). I am not satisfied with the transparency of the Cardano Ambassador Program and how we create ambassadors for the community.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>In June when fase 2 of the ambassador program was launched (\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8qEvSJq36A\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8qEvSJq36A\u003c/a>) and with a call for more people to apply for the ambassador program I decided to apply for Content Creator.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>A few days ago I got an email rejecting my application with the following reason: "Specifically, your application was denied because the number of Ambassador openings is limited, and we’re not able to accept every candidate. In some cases this may be because our overall number of slots is limited, and other candidates were selected before you. In other cases, certain Ambassadors (particularly Moderators) are subject to limitations based on need—for example, once we have a certain number of moderators for a particular community channel, it doesn’t make sense to add more."\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>I find that ironic giving they launched a call for for more people to apply and (A) if they have limited slots at this time then they should inform about this at the time of applying and (B) if I was weighted and found to light I would like to know what went into that weighting process. I think it makes sense that if we want to encourage more ambassadors (and the video in june seems to suggest so) then what goes into such a process should be more transparent so people can learn and develop the material and skills that the cardano foundation wants from its ambassadors.What I would wish for in the future is that we learn from ideascale and have reviewers that write an explanation so that applicants for the Ambassador programs can learn/develop the skills so we can have as many Ambassadors as possible. In a period of what is supposed to be a heavy market campaign I do not understand why we are going to limit slots for content creation.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Update 13 september: I discussed on telegram today with a community manager and he informed me it was not my application submitted that was rejected but a rejection of a proposal another ambassador. They also seem to not have recieved my application for some reason. If this is the case it shines another light on my individual application obviously so there is still hope for me and I am going to consider if I will resubmit an application, but i still stand by what I am asking for more transparency. When the email only says "you did not qualify to become an Ambassador" and then only says this is "number of Ambassador spots is limited" then 1) how should I know this was not my application but for another proposal and 2) how should we get more content creators when there are a few limited spots and where we do not even know why we where not selected compared with someone else?\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Regarding (B) here is some factors to judge me on from signs of commitment to the ecosystem and since I applied for a content creator my video and written content material:\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Signs of commitment: (while not direct qualification material it signals effort and drive to help the community)\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>- I was a guardian helping reshape the CF. Most guardians are either working for CF or Ambassadors and have shown a genuine interest to help support the Cardano Ecosystem.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>- I am a stake pool operator since start of ITN december 2019 (and before that testnets) with over 5000usd investments in computer equipment to help support network health of Cardano Ecosystem.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>- I commited to data analysis during the testnet and ITN that helped other ambassadors write content and helped the community understand network health better. (cardano guild metrics)\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>- Participated in individual feedback for McCann (1,5 hours) and in design feedback groups.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>- Participated in feedback on SPO school (2 hours from two meetings).\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>- Participated and participating in Catalyst (ongoing with weekly meetings and writing of ideas and commenting on documents they are creating).\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>- Participated and part of friends and family (too many hours to count probably in the range of 200+ hours if I count everything from meetings to doing video tutorials etc). This included mentoring two operators, now one is a major author to Cntools and the other an active SPO in the community.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>- Formed an interstaking pool peer agreement (isppa.info)- Donating CPU power to the Cardano team folding@home effort (nr 1 contributor) \u003ca href=\"https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/244483\">https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/244483\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>- Donating to Kiva lending platform for the Cardano Community team ( \u003ca href=\"https://www.kiva.org/team/cardano_community\">https://www.kiva.org/team/cardano_community\u003c/a>)\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>- Submitted ideas for voting on the treasury system, among them something I believe is key (A) voting media (\u003ca href=\"https://cardano.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Cardano-Voter-Media/316153-48088\">https://cardano.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Cardano-Voter-Media/316153-48088\u003c/a>) so we can get easy access to information on treasury voting issues and B) research into how the community can solve governance such as what platforms do we use for our experts or\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>how do we break down decision making process into its steps and what are some more experimental models of voting we can apply research into (OGRE - 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People do not criticize the coin per se (whenever it is a shitcoin, there's thousands shitcoins around..) but the method those people are using to confuse the newcomers, they are doing a disservice to the whole crypto world.","html":"\u003cp>Because of their scam tactics. 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The original protocol has been designed that way explicitly to have a minority fork to die in case of a split. Thanks to that abomination now that shitcoin is surviving with an insignificant hash rate, prone to be attacked every single day and with unreliable block timing and centralized mining... no, it's not what the Bitcoin is or was meant to be, it's just a scam coin.","html":"\u003cp>It's called "consensus".\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>BCASH cheated the difficulty algorithm, introducing the EDA and then manipulating the original Bitcoin DAA to survive. The original protocol has been designed that way explicitly to have a minority fork to die in case of a split. Thanks to that abomination now that shitcoin is surviving with an insignificant hash rate, prone to be attacked every single day and with unreliable block timing and centralized mining... no, it's not what the Bitcoin is or was meant to be, it's just a scam coin.\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_fol83sy","updates":19,"time":1587856749000,"first":1587859524391,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2020-04-26T18:05:24.461Z","replyTo":"t1_fol28ed","timely":true,"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g7s5i1/why_bitcoin_gold_and_bitcoin_diamond_even_cost/fol83sy","root":"t3_g7s5i1","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-07-01T15:53:57.505Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_fol83sy"},"t1_fol4b38":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"Nullav","replies":[],"directReplies":[],"upvotes":1,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"btc","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},"btc":{"topic":"btc","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"Value makes up a very small portion of the price of a cryptocurrency. To borrow another market for a second, imagine the stock market without guidance and earnings reports (...so almost that market now), with all the manual and automated speculating that goes along with that, and now imagine if stocks were directly tradable for goods and services in some capacity. Cryptocurrency, for all the possible benefits it offers, derives the bulk of its price from mostly-blind speculation, just like that hypothetical insane stock market.\n\nActually, much like most mid to large-cap stock tickers that aren't even part of any index tend to follow the broader trends of the indices, all but the penny stocks of crypto tend to follow Bitcoin.\n\nIf a cryptocurrency winds up with some jaw-dropping flaws that make it unusable and insecure, it's probably going to die eventually, but it'll ride BTC's coat tails for as long as people and machines are willing to trade it.","html":"\u003cp>Value makes up a very small portion of the price of a cryptocurrency. To borrow another market for a second, imagine the stock market without guidance and earnings reports (...so almost that market now), with all the manual and automated speculating that goes along with that, and now imagine if stocks were directly tradable for goods and services in some capacity. Cryptocurrency, for all the possible benefits it offers, derives the bulk of its price from mostly-blind speculation, just like that hypothetical insane stock market.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Actually, much like most mid to large-cap stock tickers that aren't even part of any index tend to follow the broader trends of the indices, all but the penny stocks of crypto tend to follow Bitcoin.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>If a cryptocurrency winds up with some jaw-dropping flaws that make it unusable and insecure, it's probably going to die eventually, but it'll ride BTC's coat tails for as long as people and machines are willing to trade it.\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_fol4b38","updates":20,"time":1587854613000,"first":1587855927011,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2020-04-26T18:05:24.461Z","replyTo":"t3_g7s5i1","timely":true,"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g7s5i1/why_bitcoin_gold_and_bitcoin_diamond_even_cost/fol4b38","root":"t3_g7s5i1","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-07-01T15:53:57.505Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_fol4b38"},"t1_fol28ed":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"plgod","replies":["t1_folctga","t1_folbbam","t1_fol83sy"],"directReplies":["t1_fol83sy"],"upvotes":1,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":10,"score":10,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":10,"score":10,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"btc","activity":6,"score":6,"relativeScore":0.6},{"topic":"bch","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":0.2}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":10,"score":10,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":10,"score":10,"relativeScore":1},"btc":{"topic":"btc","activity":6,"score":6,"relativeScore":0.6},"bch":{"topic":"bch","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":0.2},"eth":{"topic":"eth","activity":0,"score":0,"relativeScore":0}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"Look at Ethereum. When the rules changed, the fork took the Ethereum name and the original chain changed to Ethereum Classic. It’s just a case of winners write history.\n\nIf you start from the assumption that BCH is fake Bitcoin, then yeah, misleading. But if you say BCH is what Bitcoin was meant to be, it makes sense to say BCH should have taken the Bitcoin name and BTC should have become Bitcoin Classic. Again, winners write history. Ethereum did it, BCH failed (unfortunately, IMO).","html":"\u003cp>Look at Ethereum. When the rules changed, the fork took the Ethereum name and the original chain changed to Ethereum Classic. It’s just a case of winners write history.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>If you start from the assumption that BCH is fake Bitcoin, then yeah, misleading. But if you say BCH is what Bitcoin was meant to be, it makes sense to say BCH should have taken the Bitcoin name and BTC should have become Bitcoin Classic. Again, winners write history. Ethereum did it, BCH failed (unfortunately, IMO).\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_fol28ed","updates":20,"time":1587853447000,"first":1587855927011,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2020-04-26T18:05:24.461Z","replyTo":"t1_fokvh4h","timely":true,"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g7s5i1/why_bitcoin_gold_and_bitcoin_diamond_even_cost/fol28ed","root":"t3_g7s5i1","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-07-01T15:53:57.505Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_fol28ed"},"t1_fol22p6":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"Eirenarch","replies":["t1_fol88ui"],"directReplies":["t1_fol88ui"],"upvotes":0,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":3,"score":3,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":3,"score":3,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":3,"score":3,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":3,"score":3,"relativeScore":1},"btc":{"topic":"btc","activity":0,"score":0,"relativeScore":0}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"You could open Nike Jump... except that Nike is a trademark and Bitcoin is not. Again those people fooled by the name do not exist in practice.","html":"\u003cp>You could open Nike Jump... except that Nike is a trademark and Bitcoin is not. Again those people fooled by the name do not exist in practice.\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_fol22p6","updates":20,"time":1587853358000,"first":1587855927011,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2020-04-26T18:05:24.461Z","replyTo":"t1_fokvh4h","timely":true,"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g7s5i1/why_bitcoin_gold_and_bitcoin_diamond_even_cost/fol22p6","root":"t3_g7s5i1","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-07-01T15:53:57.505Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_fol22p6"},"t1_fol1ppf":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"plgod","replies":["t1_folat91","t1_follmb6"],"directReplies":["t1_folat91"],"upvotes":2,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"I’ll go with “something you can conveniently use to pay for coffee”","html":"\u003cp>I’ll go with “something you can conveniently use to pay for coffee”\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_fol1ppf","updates":20,"time":1587853153000,"first":1587855927011,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2020-04-26T18:05:24.461Z","replyTo":"t1_fok01j0","timely":true,"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g7s5i1/why_bitcoin_gold_and_bitcoin_diamond_even_cost/fol1ppf","root":"t3_g7s5i1","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-07-01T15:53:57.505Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_fol1ppf"},"t1_fol142q":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"plgod","replies":["t1_folc4gl","t1_folblkn","t1_fol8qnp","t1_fold2dv","t1_folj6b0"],"directReplies":["t1_fol8qnp"],"upvotes":-2,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":12,"score":12,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":12,"score":12,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"bch","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":0.33},{"topic":"btc","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":0.17}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":12,"score":12,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":12,"score":12,"relativeScore":1},"bch":{"topic":"bch","activity":4,"score":4,"relativeScore":0.33},"btc":{"topic":"btc","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":0.17}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"Bigger blocks allow zero-conf, which makes transactions instantaneous.\n\nBitcoin was never meant to need a second layer. If any other crypto needed a second layer, we’d criticize the original design and call it a shitcoin.\n\nIncreasing block size like Satoshi suggested is not a radical change to the protocol, it’s literally one variable. Unfortunately, no, it’s not backward compatible, though.","html":"\u003cp>Bigger blocks allow zero-conf, which makes transactions instantaneous.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Bitcoin was never meant to need a second layer. If any other crypto needed a second layer, we’d criticize the original design and call it a shitcoin.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Increasing block size like Satoshi suggested is not a radical change to the protocol, it’s literally one variable. Unfortunately, no, it’s not backward compatible, though.\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_fol142q","updates":20,"time":1587852820000,"first":1587855927011,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2020-04-26T18:05:24.461Z","replyTo":"t1_foke0ps","timely":true,"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g7s5i1/why_bitcoin_gold_and_bitcoin_diamond_even_cost/fol142q","root":"t3_g7s5i1","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-07-01T15:53:57.505Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_fol142q"},"t1_fol0ixr":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"plgod","replies":[],"directReplies":[],"upvotes":1,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"bch","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1},"bch":{"topic":"bch","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"The great thing with crypto is that it’s decentralized, so you don’t need to trust anyone (yes, BCH’s poster faces are douchebags, couldn’t agree more), you just need to trust in the technology.\n\nIf you want to discuss the tech, I’m in!","html":"\u003cp>The great thing with crypto is that it’s decentralized, so you don’t need to trust anyone (yes, BCH’s poster faces are douchebags, couldn’t agree more), you just need to trust in the technology.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>If you want to discuss the tech, I’m in!\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_fol0ixr","updates":20,"time":1587852489000,"first":1587855927011,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2020-04-26T18:05:24.461Z","replyTo":"t1_fokdmqz","timely":true,"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g7s5i1/why_bitcoin_gold_and_bitcoin_diamond_even_cost/fol0ixr","root":"t3_g7s5i1","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-07-01T15:53:57.505Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_fol0ixr"},"t1_fokzxgj":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"plgod","replies":["t1_fol97ge"],"directReplies":["t1_fol97ge"],"upvotes":0,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"The problem with small blocks is that you can’t be sure when the transaction will appear in the blockchain because there’s a “queue” of pending transactions, so you need to wait for confirmation(s). With big blocks, every pending transaction is included in every block, so you can be reasonably sure a transaction will be in the next block, you don’t need to wait for a block.","html":"\u003cp>The problem with small blocks is that you can’t be sure when the transaction will appear in the blockchain because there’s a “queue” of pending transactions, so you need to wait for confirmation(s). With big blocks, every pending transaction is included in every block, so you can be reasonably sure a transaction will be in the next block, you don’t need to wait for a block.\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_fokzxgj","updates":21,"time":1587852159000,"first":1587852326814,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2020-04-26T18:05:24.461Z","replyTo":"t1_fokddgg","timely":true,"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g7s5i1/why_bitcoin_gold_and_bitcoin_diamond_even_cost/fokzxgj","root":"t3_g7s5i1","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-07-01T15:53:57.505Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_fokzxgj"},"t1_fokw4jw":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"FirebaseZ","replies":["t1_fol9pct","t1_folq55f","t1_folwi45","t1_fomna1i","t1_fomuj8x","t1_fomt10q"],"directReplies":["t1_fol9pct"],"upvotes":0,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"btc","activity":3,"score":3,"relativeScore":0.43}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":7,"score":7,"relativeScore":1},"btc":{"topic":"btc","activity":3,"score":3,"relativeScore":0.43},"bch":{"topic":"bch","activity":0,"score":0,"relativeScore":0},"bsv":{"topic":"bsv","activity":0,"score":0,"relativeScore":0}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[{"_id":"bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1347.msg15366","url":"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1347.msg15366","type":"reference"},{"_id":"bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1391350.0","url":"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1391350.0","type":"reference"},{"_id":"medium.com/@johnblocke/a-brief-and-incomplete-history-of-censorship-in-r-bitcoin-c85a290fe43","url":"https://medium.com/@johnblocke/a-brief-and-incomplete-history-of-censorship-in-r-bitcoin-c85a290fe43","type":"reference"},{"_id":"t1_fokuctn","type":"reply"}],"referrals":[],"content":"Satoshi reduced the blocksize to 1mb in July 2010 as a temporary measure presumably to block spam. He planned to raise and scale it as needed. He discusses that [here](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1347.msg15366#msg15366). In 2013 Mike Hearn also [wrote](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1391350.0), \"Satoshi said back in 2010 that he intended larger block sizes to be phased in with some simple if (height > flag_day) type logic, theymos has linked to the thread before. I think he would be really amazed at how much debate this thing has become. He never attributed much weight to it, it just didn't seem important to him.\" Another good scaling summary is [here.](https://medium.com/@johnblocke/a-brief-and-incomplete-history-of-censorship-in-r-bitcoin-c85a290fe43)","html":"\u003cp>Satoshi reduced the blocksize to 1mb in July 2010 as a temporary measure presumably to block spam. He planned to raise and scale it as needed. He discusses that \u003ca href=\"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1347.msg15366#msg15366\">here\u003c/a>. In 2013 Mike Hearn also \u003ca href=\"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1391350.0\">wrote\u003c/a>, "Satoshi said back in 2010 that he intended larger block sizes to be phased in with some simple if (height > flag_day) type logic, theymos has linked to the thread before. I think he would be really amazed at how much debate this thing has become. He never attributed much weight to it, it just didn't seem important to him." 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At the moment the Bitcoin has the right block size to cope with the onchain transactions, if it'll not be enough in the future, it'll be adjusted. However increase the block size indefinitely (or remove it completely) isn't a solution that would work on the long term with mass usability, alternate solutions must be explored.\n\nHere it comes LN, it doesn't just offer a solution to the scalability, but also to the other issue that couldn't be solved onchain without modifying the protocol: the transactions confirmation time, unless you want to rely on 0-conf, at that point I would use Paypal instead.","html":"\u003cp>You seems confused, Satoshi put the 1MB block limit, he never said when it should have been lift, neither any idea about the timing, or it would have been in the code already. At the moment the Bitcoin has the right block size to cope with the onchain transactions, if it'll not be enough in the future, it'll be adjusted. 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That means you can sell some for other crypto. That alone gives them value","html":"\u003cp>They're on exchanges.. That means you can sell some for other crypto. That alone gives them value\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_foko9ik","updates":22,"time":1587845805000,"first":1587848728301,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2020-04-26T18:05:24.461Z","replyTo":"t3_g7s5i1","timely":true,"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g7s5i1/why_bitcoin_gold_and_bitcoin_diamond_even_cost/foko9ik","root":"t3_g7s5i1","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-07-01T15:53:57.505Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_foko9ik"},"t1_fokj93i":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"arldyalrdy","replies":["t1_fokmgh3"],"directReplies":[],"upvotes":0,"indicators":[],"topics":[],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":0,"score":0,"relativeScore":0},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":0,"score":0,"relativeScore":0},"btc":{"topic":"btc","activity":0,"score":0,"relativeScore":0},"bch":{"topic":"bch","activity":0,"score":0,"relativeScore":0}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"Original Bitcoin Chain = Boring Banker Bitcoin. Sorry bud but that Bitcoin Core is Fake Bitcoin.\n\n\n\nBitcoin Cash is the true bitcoin ! It works like Bitcoin did in 2013. And has tokens, Schnorr, and it's way more fun than PAYING FEES.\n\n\n\nbitcoin was built to escape the middle man banking system; BITCOIN CORE IS FAKE BANKER BITCOIN.\n\n\n\nEven Dogecoin is better. Bitcoin Cash is the real bitcoin; the one they should have scaled when Mike Hearn left the project because theymos DDOSed XT nodes back in 2015.","html":"\u003cp>Original Bitcoin Chain = Boring Banker Bitcoin. Sorry bud but that Bitcoin Core is Fake Bitcoin.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Bitcoin Cash is the true bitcoin ! It works like Bitcoin did in 2013. And has tokens, Schnorr, and it's way more fun than PAYING FEES.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>bitcoin was built to escape the middle man banking system; BITCOIN CORE IS FAKE BANKER BITCOIN.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Even Dogecoin is better. 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I imagine real crash as one which will destroy 99% of crypto and only that 1% will stay functional and on exchanges.","html":"\u003cp>Not yet imho. I imagine real crash as one which will destroy 99% of crypto and only that 1% will stay functional and on exchanges.\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_fokgub8","updates":23,"time":1587841813000,"first":1587845127147,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2020-04-26T18:05:24.461Z","replyTo":"t1_fok534n","timely":true,"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g7s5i1/why_bitcoin_gold_and_bitcoin_diamond_even_cost/fokgub8","root":"t3_g7s5i1","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-07-01T15:53:57.505Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_fokgub8"},"t1_fokgr43":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"FirebaseZ","replies":["t1_fokw4jw","t1_fokuctn","t1_fol9pct","t1_folpwbr","t1_folq55f","t1_folwuz2","t1_folwi45","t1_fomna1i","t1_fomuj8x","t1_fomt10q"],"directReplies":["t1_fokuctn"],"upvotes":5,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":15,"score":15,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":15,"score":15,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"btc","activity":11,"score":11,"relativeScore":0.73}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":15,"score":15,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":15,"score":15,"relativeScore":1},"btc":{"topic":"btc","activity":11,"score":11,"relativeScore":0.73},"bch":{"topic":"bch","activity":0,"score":0,"relativeScore":0},"bsv":{"topic":"bsv","activity":0,"score":0,"relativeScore":0}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"Or did Blockstream try to takeover bitcoin by hiring and co-opting the BTC development team so that they capped blocksize at 1mb in order to push transactions off-chain to their propriatary Liquid network?","html":"\u003cp>Or did Blockstream try to takeover bitcoin by hiring and co-opting the BTC development team so that they capped blocksize at 1mb in order to push transactions off-chain to their propriatary Liquid network?\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_fokgr43","updates":23,"time":1587841767000,"first":1587845127147,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2020-04-26T18:05:24.461Z","replyTo":"t1_fojf5o0","timely":true,"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g7s5i1/why_bitcoin_gold_and_bitcoin_diamond_even_cost/fokgr43","root":"t3_g7s5i1","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-07-01T15:53:57.505Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_fokgr43"},"t1_foke56t":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"DontTrustJack","replies":["t1_fokv6iz","t1_fokuriq"],"directReplies":["t1_fokuriq"],"upvotes":-2,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":5,"score":5,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":5,"score":5,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"bch","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":0.4}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":5,"score":5,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":5,"score":5,"relativeScore":1},"bch":{"topic":"bch","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":0.4}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"Proof to me that he stole anyones funds. You guys all talk the same ' hes a scammer, he's a fraud ' \n\nBottomline you have 0 evidence for that and you are just repeating other peoples lines. 0 evidence for all that you have said","html":"\u003cp>Proof to me that he stole anyones funds. You guys all talk the same ' hes a scammer, he's a fraud ' \u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Bottomline you have 0 evidence for that and you are just repeating other peoples lines. 0 evidence for all that you have said\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_foke56t","updates":24,"time":1587840389000,"first":1587841528148,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2020-04-26T18:05:24.461Z","replyTo":"t1_fokd7nf","timely":true,"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g7s5i1/why_bitcoin_gold_and_bitcoin_diamond_even_cost/foke56t","root":"t3_g7s5i1","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-07-01T15:53:57.505Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_foke56t"},"t1_foke0ps":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"Giusis","replies":["t1_fol142q","t1_folc4gl","t1_folblkn","t1_fol8qnp","t1_fold2dv","t1_folj6b0"],"directReplies":["t1_fol142q"],"upvotes":-2,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":14,"score":14,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":14,"score":14,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"bch","activity":5,"score":5,"relativeScore":0.36},{"topic":"btc","activity":3,"score":3,"relativeScore":0.21}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":14,"score":14,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":14,"score":14,"relativeScore":1},"bch":{"topic":"bch","activity":5,"score":5,"relativeScore":0.36},"btc":{"topic":"btc","activity":3,"score":3,"relativeScore":0.21}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"bcash doesn't solve anything, it's slow as the bitcoin and its network it is so unsecure that it could be in trouble with just 10k.\n\nBitcoin has already all the answers, it is called second layer, and it's the Lighting Network. This is the only possible solution without radically change the Bitcoin protocol applying stupid hacks (see the modded DAA and checkpoints in bcash).","html":"\u003cp>bcash doesn't solve anything, it's slow as the bitcoin and its network it is so unsecure that it could be in trouble with just 10k.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003cp>Bitcoin has already all the answers, it is called second layer, and it's the Lighting Network. This is the only possible solution without radically change the Bitcoin protocol applying stupid hacks (see the modded DAA and checkpoints in bcash).\u003c/p>","image":null,"video":false,"_id":"t1_foke0ps","updates":24,"time":1587840322000,"first":1587841528148,"source":"reddit.com","added":"2020-04-26T18:05:24.461Z","replyTo":"t1_fojn6j9","timely":true,"url":"https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/g7s5i1/why_bitcoin_gold_and_bitcoin_diamond_even_cost/foke0ps","root":"t3_g7s5i1","origin":"","type":"comment","__at":"2025-07-01T15:53:57.505Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"t1_foke0ps"},"t1_fokdr7e":{"original":{},"title":"","author":"Giusis","replies":[],"directReplies":[],"upvotes":2,"indicators":[],"topics":[{"topic":"all","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"crypto","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1},{"topic":"bch","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":0.5},{"topic":"bsv","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":0.5}],"context":{"all":{"topic":"all","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1},"crypto":{"topic":"crypto","activity":2,"score":2,"relativeScore":1},"bch":{"topic":"bch","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":0.5},"bsv":{"topic":"bsv","activity":1,"score":1,"relativeScore":0.5}},"gotReplies":false,"pinned":{},"editorializers":{},"parents":[],"referrals":[],"content":"What's the history? Anyone can create a altcoin by forking the main coin. That's how bcash, bgold, bdiamond.. have born.. oh and bsv forking a fork.","html":"\u003cp>What's the history? Anyone can create a altcoin by forking the main coin. 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Casper is starting to look less like a ghost.\nWhile that might sound too good to be true for the long-waiting ethereum faithful, CoinDesk has confirmed that the network’s creator, Vitalik Buterin, is now in the process of crafting three white papers explaining Casper, the protocol’s much-anticipated version of proof-of-stake consensus.\nAs such, the papers could come to mark a major milestone for ethereum in that, while Casper has long been proposed as a better and greener way to keep the global network in agreement about the blockchain’s transaction history, the industry has been waiting for details to be put on paper.\nRather, the idea has been trapped in the brains of a few ethereum developers, with breakthroughs and development scattered across online chat groups and blog posts over the last several years.\nAs proof-of-stake is pitched as such a crucial piece of ethereum, users have had to trust these developers do indeed have a good plan.\nAs such, Buterin’s formal white papers will now subject ethereum developers to peer-review, which could mark a big step forward for the project which is currently getting ready to upgrade to Metropolis before changing the system over to proof-of-stake.\n“In short, the Casper designs are getting better each iteration,” ethereum developer Virgil Griffith, a well-known hacker and ethereum developer who is currently reviewing Buterin’s white papers, told CoinDesk.\nThe papers have been hiding in documents in the ethereum research GitHub for the last couple of weeks, with Buterin and Griffith making updates every now and then.\nHowever, it’s worth noting the early-stage nature of the work. The documents, which have question marks and some “coming soon!” bubbles scattered throughout, won’t be ready for at least a month, Griffith said, adding:\n“I’m working on them as I type this.”\nSlow and steady\nThe first paper, “Casper the Friendly Finality Gadget” – a play on the 1990s film “Casper the Friendly Ghost” – explains how the consensus system works at a high level.\nNotably, the paper reiterates a recent change in direction for ethereum. Rather than switch from proof-of-work to proof-of-stake right away, the plan is start off slow by first weaving the two together.\nThe paper explains:\n“The proposal mechanism will initially be the existing ethereum proof-of-work chain, making the first version of Casper a hybrid PoW/PoS algorithm that relies on proof of work for liveness but not safety, but in future versions the proposal mechanism can be substituted with something else.”\nExpanding further, proof-of-work will be used to validate most ethereum blocks, but proof-of-stake will be used as a “checkpoint” for every 100th block, providing more “finality” to the system, or a guarantee that transactions cannot be spent more than once.\nThe paper goes on to cover possible attacks, such as “long-range attacks,” that validators could try to use and how Casper aims to overcome them.\nDevil in the details\nThe other two papers go into the minutiae of the system.\nTitled “Incentives in Casper the Friendly Finality Gadget,” the second paper explores the incentives that go into making the system work and ensuring it doesn’t get messed up.\nFor Casper, there are two types of things that can go wrong: “Safety faults” occur when the rules are broken, for instance when two validators come up with incompatible states. “Liveness faults” occur when the system stops, or fails to push transactions through.\nBecause users have to deposit some of their money to participate as validators, the paper outlines that if validators try to go against the rules, the system will steal their deposit.\nThe third paper, “Automated Censorship Attack Rejection,” focuses on 51-percent attacks – those in which a miner or mining pool accumulates a majority of the network computing power, and can then twist the rules of the system to their advantage to, say, double spend or block transactions.\nDevelopers have thought a lot about this problem, since if it were to occur, it could reduce confidence in the blockchain as a single source of legitimate transactions.\nIn the paper, Buterin argues Casper mitigates this problem, since the protocol punishes attackers by taking away their deposits if they do something wrong.\nAnother approach\nIt’s worth noting, though, that Buterin’s approach to proof-of-stake as outlined in these white papers, isn’t the only approach.\nThe Ethereum Foundation’s Vlad Zamfir, who leads the actual development of Casper, said he plans to release more details about his version of Casper before Devcon, ethereum’s big developer conference in the fall.\nHe told CoinDesk:\n“Vitalik is more driven to implement something soon, whereas I’m more driven to search for theoretically optimal solutions even if it means some delays.”\nAnd again, because Buterin’s version is just now getting squared away on paper, it could be assumed that during the peer-review process, things will need to be further fleshed out.\nYet, developers have already started implementing the first step of Buterin’s Casper approach, which is slated to go live sometime after ethereum’s next big upgrade, Metropolis launches this fall.\nAnd with that, it’s unclear whether the theory behind Casper will be fully ironed out before people see the ghost in real-life.\nGhost image via Shutterstock\n ","html":"\u003cp>Casper is starting to look less like a ghost.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While that might sound too good to be true for the long-waiting ethereum faithful, CoinDesk has confirmed that the network’s creator, Vitalik Buterin, is now in the process of crafting three white papers explaining Casper, the protocol’s much-anticipated version of \u003ca href=\"/information/ethereum-mining-works/\">proof-of-stake consensus.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As such, the papers could come to mark a major milestone for \u003ca href=\"/information/what-is-ethereum/\">ethereum\u003c/a> in that, while Casper has long been proposed as a better and greener way to keep the global network in agreement about the blockchain’s transaction history, the industry has been waiting for details to be put on paper.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rather, the idea has been trapped in the brains of a few ethereum developers, with breakthroughs and development scattered across \u003ca href=\"https://gitter.im/ethereum/home\" target=\"_blank\">online chat groups\u003c/a> and blog posts over the last several years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As proof-of-stake is pitched as such a crucial piece of ethereum, users have had to trust these developers do indeed have a good plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As such, Buterin’s formal white papers will now subject ethereum developers to peer-review, which could mark a big step forward for the project which is currently getting ready to upgrade to Metropolis before changing the system over to proof-of-stake.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“In short, the Casper designs are getting better each iteration,” ethereum developer Virgil Griffith, a well-known hacker and ethereum developer who is currently reviewing Buterin’s white papers, told CoinDesk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The papers have been hiding in documents in the ethereum research GitHub for the last couple of weeks, with Buterin and Griffith making updates every now and then.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, it’s worth noting the early-stage nature of the work. The documents, which have question marks and some “coming soon!” bubbles scattered throughout, won’t be ready for at least a month, Griffith said, adding:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“I’m working on them as I type this.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003ch2>Slow and steady\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://github.com/ethereum/research/blob/master/papers/casper-basics/casper_basics.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">first paper\u003c/a>, “Casper the Friendly Finality Gadget” – a play on the 1990s film “Casper the Friendly Ghost” – explains how the consensus system works at a high level.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Notably, the paper reiterates a recent change in direction for ethereum. Rather than switch from proof-of-work to proof-of-stake right away, the plan is start off slow by first weaving the two together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The paper explains:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“The proposal mechanism will initially be the existing ethereum proof-of-work chain, making the first version of Casper a hybrid PoW/PoS algorithm that relies on proof of work for liveness but not safety, but in future versions the proposal mechanism can be substituted with something else.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>Expanding further, proof-of-work will be used to validate most ethereum blocks, but proof-of-stake will be used as a “checkpoint” for every 100th block, providing more “finality” to the system, or a guarantee that transactions cannot be spent more than once.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The paper goes on to cover possible attacks, such as “long-range attacks,” that validators could try to use and how Casper aims to overcome them.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Devil in the details\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>The other two papers go into the minutiae of the system.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Titled “Incentives in Casper the Friendly Finality Gadget,” the \u003ca href=\"https://github.com/ethereum/research/blob/master/papers/casper-economics/casper_economics_basic.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">second paper\u003c/a> explores the incentives that go into making the system work and ensuring it doesn’t get messed up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For Casper, there are two types of things that can go wrong: “Safety faults” occur when the rules are broken, for instance when two validators come up with incompatible states. “Liveness faults” occur when the system stops, or fails to push transactions through.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Because users have to deposit some of their money to participate as validators, the paper outlines that if validators try to go against the rules, the system will steal their deposit.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The \u003ca href=\"https://github.com/ethereum/research/blob/master/papers/censorship_rejection/censorship_rejection.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">third paper\u003c/a>, “Automated Censorship Attack Rejection,” focuses on 51-percent attacks – those in which a miner or mining pool accumulates a majority of the network computing power, and can then twist the rules of the system to their advantage to, say, double spend or block transactions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Developers have thought a lot about this problem, since if it were to occur, it could reduce confidence in the blockchain as a single source of legitimate transactions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the paper, Buterin argues Casper mitigates this problem, since the protocol punishes attackers by taking away their deposits if they do something wrong.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Another approach\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>It’s worth noting, though, that Buterin’s approach to proof-of-stake as outlined in these white papers, isn’t the only approach.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The Ethereum Foundation’s Vlad Zamfir, who leads the actual development of Casper, said he plans to release more details about his version of Casper before Devcon, ethereum’s big developer conference in the fall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>He told CoinDesk:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“Vitalik is more driven to implement something soon, whereas I’m more driven to search for theoretically optimal solutions even if it means some delays.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>And again, because Buterin’s version is just now getting squared away on paper, it could be assumed that during the peer-review process, things will need to be further fleshed out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Yet, developers have already started implementing the first step of Buterin’s Casper approach, which is slated to go live sometime after ethereum’s next big upgrade, \u003ca href=\"/ethereums-metropolis-upgrade-still-months-away/\">Metropolis\u003c/a> launches this fall.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And with that, it’s unclear whether the theory behind Casper will be fully ironed out before people see the ghost in real-life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/math-formula-written-on-blackboard-chalk-163607942\" target=\"_blank\">Ghost\u003c/a> image via Shutterstock\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n ","type":"ghost","description":"Ethereum creator Vitalik Buterin has finally begun formalizing his vision for proof-of-stake in a series of long-awaited white papers.","image":{"url":"https://i.redditmedia.com/s5ZjmBAq9hz70Mf2fz8S_KqbS_JHcY4hYuXwj8PR9Ks.jpg?s=673190aeb2b82de08d767f88e6bd7411","width":1500,"height":1001},"__at":"2025-07-01T15:54:41.114Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"coindeskcomethereumseeingghostsvitalikbuterinisfinallyformalizingethereumscasperupgrade","origin":"coindesk.com"},"cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-cofounder-launches-venture-capital-arm-with-50-mln-investment":{"original":{"headers":{"date":["Thu, 30 May 2019 02:24:32 GMT"],"content-type":["text/html; 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The new division, ConsenSys Ventures, would invest both in equity of Blockchain startups and in emerging cryptocurrencies. The company has hired Kavita Gupta as Founding Managing Partner to run the arm. Kavita comes with an interesting impact-investing background given her stints with the Google’s parent company Alphabet’s Executive Chairman, Eric Schmidt’s Schmidt Family Foundation, International Finance Corporation and the World Bank. ConsenSys Ventures is looking to get started with investing the initial $50 mln corpus in Ethereum startups at the typical Seed stage. The investments sizes are expected to be in the range of $250,000 and $1 mln, and the company intends to raise more capital from outside investors subsequently. Kavita Gupta stated: “Blockchain technologies have lowered the cost of monetary transactions in the developing world, and could be used by refugees to store credible identity records.” Investment frenzy in Blockchain startups With the advent of Initial Coin Offerings, we have seen an investment frenzy in Blockchain startups where these token sales have surpassed the VC investments for 2017. This has also resulted in a strong interest in the Venture Capital space where we are seeing dedicated Blockchain investment vehicles being setup to ride on the high return wave. ConsenSys Ventures will have to deal with some of the more established players in the Blockchain VC space such as Pantera Capital, Barry Silbert’s Digital Currency Group, Adam Draper’s Boost VC, Blockchain Capital and Fred Wilson’s Union Square Ventures. 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Kavita comes with an interesting impact-investing background given her stints with the Google’s parent company Alphabet’s Executive Chairman, Eric Schmidt’s Schmidt Family Foundation, International Finance Corporation and the World Bank.\u003c/p> \u003cp>ConsenSys Ventures is looking to get started with investing the initial $50 mln corpus in \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/tags/ethereum\" target=\"_blank\">Ethereum\u003c/a> startups at the typical Seed stage. 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The Virginia-based technology startup and Ethereum-based decentralized application was to allow Youtubers and Twitch Casters to receive funding from fans and investors. The following press release was posted to the Protostarr website and is reproduced below: “On August 24, 2017, we were contacted by the United States Security and Exchange Commission regarding the initial coin offering of Protostarr tokens to fund the development of our Ethereum decentralized application. After consultation with multiple lawyers, we have decided to cease further operations and refund Ethereum collected in our crowdsale that began on August 13, 2017. Like many of our supporters, we were excited to be an innovative force in the emerging space of content creation and its funding. Unfortunately, as a startup, we do not have the necessary resources to both develop our DApp and challenge the SEC’s investigation regarding our ICO and its interpretation under US securities law. Individuals who paid Ethereum to the crowdsale payment address will receive a refund to the originating wallet address. These originating wallet addresses are verifiable on the Ethereum blockchain that’s attached to the ICO contract at here: https://etherscan.io/address/0xEa16ebd8Cdf5A51fa0a80bFA5665146b2AB82210#internaltx Refunds will begin on September 02, 2017 for all incoming transactions made to the crowdsale wallet before the refund date. For immediate inquiries related to the refund of payments, contact info@protostarr.io.” No legal advice sought pre-ICO The CEO of Protostarr, Joshua Gilson, stated that they were contacted by the SEC on August 24, 2017 to provide more information about the ICO and the project itself. Based on this call, Joshua reached out to lawyers to seek guidance about the information requested. Counsel advised that it would be better to close down the project and return any funds collected via the ICO sale process. Protostarr plans to refund all participants by September 2, 2017. In a message posted on Bitcointalk forums, Joshua Gilson wrote: “Thanks for understanding. We are just working on making sure all refunds are handled properly so no one loses any money. At least ETH is worth more now than it was during the campaign so everyone is getting more value back than they donated. It is unfortunate though. We feel we had a novel idea that can help a lot of people, but because ICO’s are now on the SEC’s radar we would have to get a legal department hired on earlier than the plan, which we can’t afford to do while giving value to those who supported us. We are losing all the money we put into this, but want to make sure our supporters are taken care of. 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These originating wallet addresses are verifiable on the Ethereum blockchain that’s attached to the ICO contract at here: \u003ca href=\"https://etherscan.io/address/0xEa16ebd8Cdf5A51fa0a80bFA5665146b2AB82210#internaltx\" target=\"_blank\">https://etherscan.io/address/0xEa16ebd8Cdf5A51fa0a80bFA5665146b2AB82210#internaltx\u003c/a>\u003c/p> \u003cp>Refunds will begin on September 02, 2017 for all incoming transactions made to the crowdsale wallet before the refund date.\u003c/p> \u003cp>For immediate inquiries related to the refund of payments, contact info@protostarr.io.”\u003c/p> \u003c/blockquote> \u003ch2>No legal advice sought pre-ICO\u003c/h2> \u003cp>The CEO of Protostarr, Joshua Gilson, stated that they were contacted by the SEC on August 24, 2017 to provide more information about the ICO and the project itself. Based on this call, Joshua reached out to lawyers to seek guidance about the information requested. 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entire digital currency space has reached a new milestone after ethereum processed half a million transactions within a 24 hour period, an all time high for any decentralized public blockchain.\nA milestone that suggest ethereum is experiencing a considerable increase in adoption and utility, with transaction levels rising from mere thousands last year to now hundreds of thousands a day.\nBitcoin and ethereum current transaction levels.\nYet, their safe low cost transaction fees remain below a penny at $0.007 according to data provided by ethereum’s gas station, even while transaction volumes significantly pass those of bitcoin, which enjoys fees of $7 at times.\n\nThat’s a recent development for bitcoin as shown by the interesting graph below. The currency used to operate finely with low fees until earlier this year when demand skyrocketed, yet Bitcoin Core developers left capacity unchanged.\nBitcoin and ethereum’s fees.\nEthereum still has plenty of capacity, but at this rate it may too hit a ceiling if scalability upgrades continue to be delayed.\nHowever, in a few weeks, the currency will see a simple capacity increase through the Metropolis hardfork which will return blocks to an average of 12 seconds from the current 24 seconds.\nBlock times have risen because of the difficulty bomb placed in the protocol by developers so as to give the network no choice when it comes time to upgrade to Proof of Stake (PoS).\nHowever, PoS is far behind, so that exponential difficulty increase has to be postponed during the Metropolis Hardfork, thus in effect increasing the networks capacity.\nAnother development is Raiden, which has now entered the final testing stage. While OmiseGo developers are working with Vitalik Buterin, ethereum’s inventor, on Plasma.\nThey both are an addition to the network, an external layer you can tap into if you please. Aiding with on-chain capacity in an indirect way as projects like Etherdelta, the decentralized ethereum exchange, may choose to use those protocols instead of the public blockchain directly.\nHowever, no such second layer protocol has yet been seen in operation so we can not quite objectively say how exactly they would affect capacity. With on-chain demand probably continuing to increase and might perhaps hit a ceiling next year.\nThe race thus is on for the biggest prize in this space. A truly scalable public blockchain.\n \n\n\n","html":"\n\u003cp>The entire digital currency space has reached a new milestone after ethereum processed half a million transactions within a 24 hour period, an all time high for any decentralized public blockchain.\u003cspan>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A milestone that suggest ethereum is experiencing a considerable increase in adoption and utility, with transaction levels rising from mere thousands last year to now hundreds of thousands a day.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_5061\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5061\" style=\"width: 1333px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\">\u003cimg src=\"http://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/bitcoin-ethereum-transactions-sep-7.png\" alt width=\"1333\" height=\"553\">\u003cfigcaption id=\"caption-attachment-5061\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bitcoin and ethereum current transaction levels.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Yet, their safe low cost transaction fees remain below a penny at $0.007 according to data provided by ethereum’s \u003ca href=\"http://ethgasstation.info/index.php\">gas station\u003c/a>, even while transaction volumes significantly pass those of bitcoin, which enjoys fees of $7 at times.\u003c/p>\u003cdiv>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>That’s a recent development for bitcoin as shown by the interesting graph below. The currency used to operate finely with low fees until earlier this year when demand skyrocketed, yet Bitcoin Core developers left capacity unchanged.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_5062\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5062\" style=\"width: 1356px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\">\u003cimg src=\"http://www.trustnodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/bitcoin-ethereum-fees-sep-7.png\" alt width=\"1356\" height=\"553\">\u003cfigcaption id=\"caption-attachment-5062\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bitcoin and ethereum’s fees.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Ethereum still has plenty of capacity, but at this rate it may too hit a ceiling if scalability upgrades continue to be delayed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, in a few weeks, the currency will see a simple capacity increase through the \u003ca href=\"http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/08/26/ethereum-hardfork-reduce-issuance-september-metropolis-byzantium-upgrade\">Metropolis hardfork\u003c/a> which will return blocks to an average of 12 seconds from the current 24 seconds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Block times have risen because of the difficulty bomb placed in the protocol by developers so as to give the network no choice when it comes time to upgrade to Proof of Stake (PoS).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, PoS is far behind, so that exponential difficulty increase has to be postponed during the Metropolis Hardfork, thus in effect increasing the networks capacity.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another development is \u003ca href=\"http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/09/06/scalability-race-heats-ethereums-raiden-enters-testing-stage\">Raiden\u003c/a>, which has now entered the final testing stage. While OmiseGo developers are working with Vitalik Buterin, ethereum’s inventor, on \u003ca href=\"http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/08/10/plasma-opens-scalability-race-ethereum-blockchains-within-blockchains\">Plasma\u003c/a>.\u003cspan>\u003c/span>\u003cspan>\u003cspan>\u003c/span>\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They both are an addition to the network, an external layer you can tap into if you please. Aiding with on-chain capacity in an indirect way as projects like Etherdelta, the decentralized ethereum exchange, may choose to use those protocols instead of the public blockchain directly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>However, no such second layer protocol has yet been seen in operation so we can not quite objectively say how exactly they would affect capacity. With on-chain demand probably continuing to increase and might perhaps hit a ceiling next year.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The race thus is on for the biggest prize in this space. 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Embora pareça um número grande, ele simplesmente desaparece em comparação com os US $ 3,15 trilhões administrados pela indústria de fundos de cobertura no terceiro trimestre. As criptomoedas atraíram apenas um pequeno número de investidores institucionais porque a maioria ainda está cética. A última crítica vem do lendário investidor Warren Buffet, que disse que o Bitcoin está em território de bolha. Bem, uma correção após um rali tão estupendo é certamente possível. Portanto, sempre recomendamos uma stop loss para nossos leitores. Mesmo que as moedas digitais se corrijam bruscamente, nossas perdas serão limitadas e nosso capital será preservado. Podemos reinvestir novamente em níveis mais baixos. BTC/USD Recomendamos posições longas no Bitcoin em nossa análise anterior, com nosso objetivo objetivo de US $ 6.000. Em 27 de outubro, a moeda digital atingiu um máximo de US $ 5.986, onde esperançosamente os comerciantes teriam obtido lucros parciais como sugerido. Para onde está indo o Bitcoin na sequência? O Bitcoin está atualmente corrigindo para o suporte da linha de tendência em US $ 5600. Logo abaixo deste suporte fica a média móvel exponencial de 20 dias (EMA) em US $ 5.513. Nós esperamos que a compra apareça nesses níveis, no entanto, não temos certeza de que este nível se manterá dessa vez. Nossas stops em US $ 5.650 foram atingidas. Gostaríamos de nos assentar e esperar, porque se a zona de suporte de US $ 5.513 a US $ 5.600 quebrar, a moeda digital derrapará para US $ 4.975. Por outro lado, se a zona de suporte se mantiver, então o Bitcoin provavelmente permanecerá limitado entre US $ 5600 e US $ 6000. No entanto, a próxima compra na moeda virtual só será desencadeada se surgirem novos altos e atravessarem a linha de resistência do canal ascendente. Atualmente não encontramos configurações de compra, portanto, não recomendamos nenhum comércio novo no Bitcoin. ETH/USD Não temos quaisquer posições ou recomendações existentes no Ethereum. Os touros e os ursos estão tomando uma pausa após em dia imensamente volátil em 22 de outubro. O Ethereum tem uma série de resistências de US $ 300 a US $ 315. Portanto, recomendamos uma posição longa somente em um breakout, e fechar acima de US $ 315 com uma stop loss próxima. O primeiro alvo é US $ 353. Em contrapartida, tem suporte da linha de tendência em US $ 280, abaixo do qual é provável que caia para US $ 272 e, posteriormente, para US $ 252. Nos níveis atuais, não encontramos configurações de compra no Ethereum, portanto, não sugerimos negociar nele. BCH/USD Nós observamos algumas compras no Bitcoin Cash, mas não recomendamos nenhum comércio porque o risco de recompensa da proporção não foi favorável. Vemos um comércio nele agora? A criptomoeda está retornando da extremidade superior do intervalo em US $ 400. A média móvel simples de 50 dias também está em US $ 398. Portanto, esperamos uma resistência rígida em níveis de US $ 400. No entanto, se a moeda digital sair desta resistência de sobrecarga, ela tem um alvo padrão de US $ 518. Portanto, podemos comprar em um breakout e fechar acima de US $ 400. Devemos limitar nosso risco, mantendo uma stop de US $ 350. Não queremos manter o comércio de cair no intervalo. No entanto, se o Bitcoin Cash falhar ao sair e fechar acima de US $ 400, é provável que permaneça limitado por mais alguns dias. XRP/USD Tanto os compradores como os vendedores parecem ter abandonado a moeda digital nos últimos três dias, pelo que a volatilidade diminuiu. No entanto, é improvável que esse período de baixa volatilidade se mantenha durante muito tempo. Em breve, devemos ver uma expansão da volatilidade. Se o Ripple sair das médias móveis, deve tentar uma retração para níveis de pelo menos US $ 0,23955, que é a retração de 50 por cento de Fibonacci da queda de US $ 0,29699 para US $ 0,18211. Se a moeda virtual estiver fora deste nível, então um rali para US $ 0,25311 e US $ 0,27241 também é possível. Portanto, recomendamos uma posição longa em US $ 0,22 com uma stop loss de US $ 0,1996. Como esta é uma negociação arriscada, sugerimos usar apenas cerca de 30% da alocação usual. No entanto, se a criptomoeda falhar no breakout na parte de cima, ele pode diminuir para níveis de US $ 0,18211. LTC/USD O Litecoin não conseguiu sair da faixa de US $ 44 a US $ 57,7. Portanto, nossos níveis de compra não foram ativados. A SMA de 50 dias está situada em US $ 55,59, enquanto a EMA de 20 dias é de US $ 56,57. Logo acima das médias móveis, a extremidade superior do intervalo é de US $ 57,729. Se a moeda digital romper todas essas resistências, é provável que ela comece uma nova tendência de alta. Portanto, mantemos nossa recomendação de compra fornecida em nossa análise anterior. Por favor compre em um breakout e feche acima de $ 57.7. A stop loss é de US $ 51, enquanto o alvo é de US $ 71. Se o Litecoin falha em romper a resistência de sobrecarga, ele voltará para os níveis de US $ 52.","html":"\u003cp>O número de fundos de cobertura que comercializam exclusivamente moedas digitais cresceu para 120, com cerca de US \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/27/there-are-now-more-than-120-hedge-funds-focused-solely-on-bitcoin.html\" target=\"_blank\">$ 2,3\u003c/a> bilhões no total de ativos sob gestão, de acordo com a empresa de pesquisa financeira Autonomous Next.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Embora pareça um número grande, ele simplesmente desaparece em comparação com os US $ 3,15 trilhões administrados pela indústria de fundos de cobertura no terceiro trimestre.\u003c/p> \u003cp>As criptomoedas atraíram apenas um pequeno número de investidores institucionais porque a maioria ainda está cética. A última crítica vem do lendário investidor \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/billionaire-investor-warren-buffett-says-leading-cryptocurrency-bitcoin-in-bubble-territory\" target=\"_blank\">Warren Buffet\u003c/a>, que disse que o Bitcoin está em território de bolha.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Bem, uma correção após um rali tão estupendo é certamente possível. Portanto, sempre recomendamos uma stop loss para nossos leitores. Mesmo que as moedas digitais se corrijam bruscamente, nossas perdas serão limitadas e nosso capital será preservado. Podemos reinvestir novamente em níveis mais baixos.\u003c/p> \u003ch2>BTC/USD\u003c/h2> \u003cp>Recomendamos posições longas no Bitcoin em nossa análise \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/price-analysis-october-25-bitcoin-ethereum-bitcoin-cash-ripple-litecoin\" target=\"_blank\">anterior\u003c/a>, com nosso objetivo objetivo de US $ 6.000. Em 27 de outubro, a moeda digital atingiu um máximo de US $ 5.986, onde esperançosamente os comerciantes teriam obtido lucros parciais como sugerido. Para onde está indo o Bitcoin na sequência?\u003c/p> \u003cp>\u003cimg alt=\"BTC/USD\" src=\"https://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/b410abcecca081ec4a41a06230a11178.png\" title=\"BTC/USD\">\u003c/p> \u003cp>O Bitcoin está atualmente corrigindo para o suporte da linha de tendência em US $ 5600. Logo abaixo deste suporte fica a média móvel exponencial de 20 dias (EMA) em US $ 5.513. Nós esperamos que a compra apareça nesses níveis, no entanto, não temos certeza de que este nível se manterá dessa vez.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Nossas stops em US $ 5.650 foram atingidas. Gostaríamos de nos assentar e esperar, porque se a zona de suporte de \u003ca href=\"https://hitbtc.com/BTC-to-USD\" target=\"_blank\">US $ 5.513 a US $ 5.600\u003c/a> quebrar, a moeda digital derrapará para US $ 4.975.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Por outro lado, se a zona de suporte se mantiver, então o Bitcoin provavelmente permanecerá limitado entre US $ 5600 e US $ 6000. No entanto, a próxima compra na moeda virtual só será desencadeada se surgirem novos altos e atravessarem a linha de resistência do canal ascendente.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Atualmente não encontramos configurações de compra, portanto, não recomendamos nenhum comércio novo no Bitcoin.\u003c/p> \u003ch2>ETH/USD\u003c/h2> \u003cp>Não temos quaisquer posições ou recomendações existentes no Ethereum. Os touros e os ursos estão tomando uma pausa após em dia imensamente volátil em 22 de outubro.\u003c/p> \u003cp>\u003cimg alt=\"ETH/USD\" src=\"https://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/a84d3bee71d09cd2f70d1ad806b602a7.png\" title=\"ETH/USD\">\u003c/p> \u003cp>O Ethereum tem uma série de resistências de \u003ca href=\"https://hitbtc.com/ETH-to-USDT\" target=\"_blank\">US $ 300 a US $ 315\u003c/a>. Portanto, recomendamos uma posição longa somente em um breakout, e fechar acima de US $ 315 com uma stop loss próxima. O primeiro alvo é US $ 353.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Em contrapartida, tem suporte da linha de tendência em US $ 280, abaixo do qual é provável que caia para US $ 272 e, posteriormente, para US $ 252.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Nos níveis atuais, não encontramos configurações de compra no Ethereum, portanto, não sugerimos negociar nele.\u003c/p> \u003ch2>BCH/USD\u003c/h2> \u003cp>Nós observamos algumas compras no Bitcoin Cash, mas não recomendamos nenhum comércio porque o risco de recompensa da proporção não foi favorável. Vemos um comércio nele agora?\u003c/p> \u003cp>\u003cimg alt=\"BCH/USD\" src=\"https://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/2d59c64f0a45ceb077c445892a0a8088.png\" title=\"BCH/USD\">\u003c/p> \u003cp>A criptomoeda está retornando da extremidade superior do intervalo em US $ 400. A média móvel simples de 50 dias também está em US $ 398. Portanto, esperamos uma resistência rígida em níveis de US $ 400.\u003c/p> \u003cp>No entanto, se a moeda digital sair desta resistência de sobrecarga, ela tem um alvo padrão de US $ 518.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Portanto, podemos comprar em um breakout e fechar acima de US $ 400. Devemos limitar nosso risco, mantendo uma stop de US $ 350. Não queremos manter o comércio de cair no intervalo.\u003c/p> \u003cp>No entanto, se o Bitcoin Cash falhar ao sair e fechar acima de US $ 400, é provável que permaneça limitado por mais alguns dias.\u003c/p> \u003ch2>XRP/USD\u003c/h2> \u003cp>Tanto os compradores como os vendedores parecem ter abandonado a moeda digital nos últimos três dias, pelo que a volatilidade diminuiu. No entanto, é improvável que esse período de baixa volatilidade se mantenha durante muito tempo. Em breve, devemos ver uma expansão da volatilidade.\u003c/p> \u003cp>\u003cimg alt=\"XRP/USD\" src=\"https://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/7ab0312f81cd01fc31347293aef301e4.png\" title=\"XRP/USD\">\u003c/p> \u003cp>Se o Ripple sair das médias móveis, deve tentar uma retração para níveis de pelo menos US $ 0,23955, que é a retração de 50 por cento de Fibonacci da queda de US $ 0,29699 para US $ 0,18211. Se a moeda virtual estiver fora deste nível, então um rali para US $ 0,25311 e US $ 0,27241 também é possível.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Portanto, recomendamos uma posição longa em US $ 0,22 com uma stop loss de US $ 0,1996. Como esta é uma negociação arriscada, sugerimos usar apenas cerca de 30% da alocação usual.\u003c/p> \u003cp>No entanto, se a criptomoeda falhar no breakout na parte de cima, ele pode diminuir para níveis de US $ 0,18211.\u003c/p> \u003ch2>LTC/USD\u003c/h2> \u003cp>O Litecoin não conseguiu sair da faixa de \u003ca href=\"https://hitbtc.com/LTC-to-USDT\" target=\"_blank\">US $ 44 a US $ 57,7\u003c/a>. Portanto, nossos níveis de compra não foram ativados.\u003c/p> \u003cp>\u003cimg alt=\"LTC/USD\" src=\"https://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/5a1bf8d75de48ffe951b9255cb77ce29.png\" title=\"LTC/USD\">\u003c/p> \u003cp>A SMA de 50 dias está situada em US $ 55,59, enquanto a EMA de 20 dias é de US $ 56,57. Logo acima das médias móveis, a extremidade superior do intervalo é de US $ 57,729. Se a moeda digital romper todas essas resistências, é provável que ela comece uma nova tendência de alta.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Portanto, mantemos nossa recomendação de compra fornecida em nossa \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/price-analysis-october-25-bitcoin-ethereum-bitcoin-cash-ripple-litecoin\" target=\"_blank\">análise\u003c/a> anterior. Por favor compre em um breakout e feche acima de $ 57.7. A stop loss é de US $ 51, enquanto o alvo é de US $ 71.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Se o Litecoin falha em romper a resistência de sobrecarga, ele voltará para os níveis de US $ 52.\u003c/p>","replyTo":"cnbc.com/2017/10/27/there-are-now-more-than-120-hedge-funds-focused-solely-on-bitcoin.html","replyType":"reference","type":"ghost","description":"Últimas avaliações de preços e sugestões comerciais nas criptomoedas mais populares.","language":"br","__at":"2025-07-01T15:56:44.478Z","boosted":false,"safeId":"brcointelegraphcomnewspriceanalysisoctober28bitcoinethereumbitcoincashripplelitecoin","origin":"cointelegraph.com"},"cointelegraph.com/news/price-analysis-october-28-bitcoin-ethereum-bitcoin-cash-ripple-litecoin?https://news.google.com/news/rss/search/section/q/bitcoin/bitcoin?hl=en&ned=us=":{"original":{"headers":{"date":["Thu, 30 May 2019 01:25:38 GMT"],"content-type":["text/html; charset=UTF-8"],"transfer-encoding":["chunked"],"connection":["close"],"set-cookie":["__cfduid=da76540952dc71e7b3805a61fb08a63281559179537; 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While it sounds like a large number, it pales in comparison to the $3.15 tln managed by the hedge fund industry in the third quarter. Cryptocurrencies have attracted only a small number of institutional investors because most still remain skeptical. The latest criticism comes from legendary investor Warren Buffet, who has said that Bitcoin is in bubble territory. Well, a correction after such a stupendous rally is certainly possible. Therefore, we always recommend a stop loss to our readers. Even if the digital currencies correct sharply, our losses will be limited and our capital will be preserved. We can again reinvest at lower levels. BTC/USD We had recommended long positions in Bitcoin in our previous analysis, with our target objective being $6000. On Oct. 27, the digital currency hit a high of $5986, where hopefully traders would have booked partial profits as suggested. Where is Bitcoin headed next? Bitcoin is currently correcting towards the trendline support at $5600. Just below this support is the 20-day exponential moving average (EMA) at $5513. We expect buying to emerge at these levels, however, we are not certain that this level will hold this time. Our stops at $5650 have been hit. We would like to sit back and wait, because if the support zone of $5513 to $5600 breaks, the digital currency will slide to $4975 levels. On the other hand, if the support zone holds then Bitcoin is likely to remain range-bound between $5600 to $6000. However, the next buy on the virtual currency will only be triggered if it breaks out to new highs and crosses the resistance line of the ascending channel. Presently, we don’t find any buy setups, therefore, we don’t not recommend any fresh trade on Bitcoin. ETH/USD We don’t have any existing positions or recommendations on Ethereum. The bulls and the bears are taking a break after the hugely volatile day on Oct. 22. Ethereum has a slew of resistances from $300 to $315 levels. Therefore we recommend a long position only on a breakout, and close above $315 with a close stop loss. The first target is $353. On the downside, it has support from the trendline at $280, below which it is likely to fall to $272 and thereafter to $252 levels. At current levels we don’t find any buy setups on Ethereum, hence we do not suggest to trade on it. BCH/USD We had observed some buying in Bitcoin Cash but we did not recommend any trade because the risk to reward ratio was not favorable. Do we see a trade on it now? The cryptocurrency is currently returning from the upper end of the range at $400. The 50-day simple moving average is also at $398. Therefore, we expect a stiff resistance at $400 levels. However, if the digital currency breaks out of this overhead resistance, it has a pattern target of $518. Hence, we can buy on a breakout and close above $400. We shall limit our risk by keeping a stop loss of $350. We don’t want to hang on to the trade if it falls back into the range. However, if Bitcoin Cash fails to breakout and close above $400, it is likely to remain range bound for a few more days. XRP/USD Both the buyers and the sellers seem to have deserted the digital currency in the past three days, as a result of which, the volatility has shrunk. However, this period of low volatility is unlikely to sustain for a long time. We should soon see an expansion in volatility. If Ripple breaks out of the moving averages, it should attempt a pullback to at least $0.23955 levels, which is the 50 percent Fibonacci retracement of the fall from $0.29699 to $0.18211. If the virtual currency breaks out of this level, then a rally to $0.25311 and $0.27241 is also possible. Therefore, we recommend a long position at $0.22 with a stop loss of $0.19650. As this is a risky trade, we suggest using only about 30 percent of the usual allocation. However, if the cryptocurrency fails to breakout on the upside, it can drift down to $1.8211 levels. LTC/USD Litecoin has not been able to breakout of the range of $44 to $57.7. Therefore, our buy levels were not triggered. The 50-day SMA is situated at $55.59, while the 20-day EMA is at $56.57. Just above the moving averages is the upper end of the range at $57.729. If the digital currency breaks out of all these resistances, chances are that it will start a new uptrend. Therefore, we retain our buy recommendation provided in our previous analysis. Please buy on a breakout and close above $57.7. The stop loss is $51, whereas the target objective is $71. If Litecoin fails to breakout of the overhead resistance, it will fall back towards the $52 levels.","nReplies":1,"html":"\u003cp>The number of hedge funds which exclusively trade digital currencies has grown to 120, with about \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/27/there-are-now-more-than-120-hedge-funds-focused-solely-on-bitcoin.html\" target=\"_blank\">$2.3\u003c/a> bln in total assets under management, according to the financial research firm Autonomous Next.\u003c/p> \u003cp>While it sounds like a large number, it pales in comparison to the $3.15 tln managed by the hedge fund industry in the third quarter.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Cryptocurrencies have attracted only a small number of institutional investors because most still remain skeptical. The latest criticism comes from legendary investor \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/billionaire-investor-warren-buffett-says-leading-cryptocurrency-bitcoin-in-bubble-territory\" target=\"_blank\">Warren Buffet\u003c/a>, who has said that Bitcoin is in bubble territory.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Well, a correction after such a stupendous rally is certainly possible. Therefore, we always recommend a stop loss to our readers. Even if the digital currencies correct sharply, our losses will be limited and our capital will be preserved. We can again reinvest at lower levels.\u003c/p> \u003ch2>BTC/USD\u003c/h2> \u003cp>We had recommended long positions in Bitcoin in our \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/price-analysis-october-25-bitcoin-ethereum-bitcoin-cash-ripple-litecoin\" target=\"_blank\">previous\u003c/a> analysis, with our target objective being $6000. On Oct. 27, the digital currency hit a high of $5986, where hopefully traders would have booked partial profits as suggested. Where is Bitcoin headed next? \u003c/p> \u003cp>\u003cimg alt=\"BTC/USD\" src=\"https://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/b410abcecca081ec4a41a06230a11178.png\" title=\"BTC/USD\">\u003c/p> \u003cp>Bitcoin is currently correcting towards the trendline support at $5600. Just below this support is the 20-day exponential moving average (EMA) at $5513. We expect buying to emerge at these levels, however, we are not certain that this level will hold this time.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Our stops at $5650 have been hit. We would like to sit back and wait, because if the support zone of \u003ca href=\"https://hitbtc.com/BTC-to-USD\" target=\"_blank\">$5513 to $5600\u003c/a> breaks, the digital currency will slide to $4975 levels.\u003c/p> \u003cp>On the other hand, if the support zone holds then Bitcoin is likely to remain range-bound between $5600 to $6000. However, the next buy on the virtual currency will only be triggered if it breaks out to new highs and crosses the resistance line of the ascending channel.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Presently, we don’t find any buy setups, therefore, we don’t not recommend any fresh trade on Bitcoin.\u003c/p> \u003ch2>ETH/USD\u003c/h2> \u003cp>We don’t have any existing positions or recommendations on Ethereum. The bulls and the bears are taking a break after the hugely volatile day on Oct. 22.\u003c/p> \u003cp>\u003cimg alt=\"ETH/USD\" src=\"https://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/a84d3bee71d09cd2f70d1ad806b602a7.png\" title=\"ETH/USD\">\u003c/p> \u003cp>Ethereum has a slew of resistances from \u003ca href=\"https://hitbtc.com/ETH-to-USDT\" target=\"_blank\">$300 to $315\u003c/a> levels. Therefore we recommend a long position only on a breakout, and close above $315 with a close stop loss. The first target is $353.\u003c/p> \u003cp>On the downside, it has support from the trendline at $280, below which it is likely to fall to $272 and thereafter to $252 levels.\u003c/p> \u003cp>At current levels we don’t find any buy setups on Ethereum, hence we do not suggest to trade on it.\u003c/p> \u003ch2>BCH/USD\u003c/h2> \u003cp>We had observed some buying in Bitcoin Cash but we did not recommend any trade because the risk to reward ratio was not favorable. Do we see a trade on it now?\u003c/p> \u003cp>\u003cimg alt=\"BCH/USD\" src=\"https://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/2d59c64f0a45ceb077c445892a0a8088.png\" title=\"BCH/USD\">\u003c/p> \u003cp>The cryptocurrency is currently returning from the upper end of the range at $400. The 50-day simple moving average is also at $398. Therefore, we expect a stiff resistance at $400 levels.\u003c/p> \u003cp>However, if the digital currency breaks out of this overhead resistance, it has a pattern target of $518.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Hence, we can buy on a breakout and close above $400. We shall limit our risk by keeping a stop loss of $350. We don’t want to hang on to the trade if it falls back into the range.\u003c/p> \u003cp>However, if Bitcoin Cash fails to breakout and close above $400, it is likely to remain range bound for a few more days.\u003c/p> \u003ch2>XRP/USD\u003c/h2> \u003cp>Both the buyers and the sellers seem to have deserted the digital currency in the past three days, as a result of which, the volatility has shrunk. However, this period of low volatility is unlikely to sustain for a long time. We should soon see an expansion in volatility.\u003c/p> \u003cp>\u003cimg alt=\"XRP/USD\" src=\"https://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/7ab0312f81cd01fc31347293aef301e4.png\" title=\"XRP/USD\">\u003c/p> \u003cp>If Ripple breaks out of the moving averages, it should attempt a pullback to at least $0.23955 levels, which is the 50 percent Fibonacci retracement of the fall from $0.29699 to $0.18211. If the virtual currency breaks out of this level, then a rally to $0.25311 and $0.27241 is also possible.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Therefore, we recommend a long position at $0.22 with a stop loss of $0.19650. As this is a risky trade, we suggest using only about 30 percent of the usual allocation.\u003c/p> \u003cp>However, if the cryptocurrency fails to breakout on the upside, it can drift down to $1.8211 levels.\u003c/p> \u003ch2>LTC/USD\u003c/h2> \u003cp>Litecoin has not been able to breakout of the range of \u003ca href=\"https://hitbtc.com/LTC-to-USDT\" target=\"_blank\">$44 to $57.7\u003c/a>. Therefore, our buy levels were not triggered. \u003c/p> \u003cp>\u003cimg alt=\"LTC/USD\" src=\"https://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/5a1bf8d75de48ffe951b9255cb77ce29.png\" title=\"LTC/USD\">\u003c/p> \u003cp>The 50-day SMA is situated at $55.59, while the 20-day EMA is at $56.57. Just above the moving averages is the upper end of the range at $57.729. If the digital currency breaks out of all these resistances, chances are that it will start a new uptrend.\u003c/p> \u003cp>Therefore, we retain our buy recommendation provided in our previous \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/price-analysis-october-25-bitcoin-ethereum-bitcoin-cash-ripple-litecoin\" target=\"_blank\">analysis\u003c/a>. Please buy on a breakout and close above $57.7. The stop loss is $51, whereas the target objective is $71.\u003c/p> \u003cp>If Litecoin fails to breakout of the overhead resistance, it will fall back towards the $52 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Therefore, it’s not surprising to see crowdfunding mechanisms tailored specifically for blockchain projects that resemble initial public offerings. For example, in 2017, the blockchain space witnessed the rise of initial coin offerings, and while the ICO framework quickly attracted billions of dollars in venture capital, the approach was flawed, as any investor could participate by sending cryptocurrency to a project that had nothing to show for in terms of proof but a website (and sometimes a white paper). Unsurprisingly, many ICOs turned out to be fraudulent, resulting in a boom-and-bust period throughout 2018. Then, in 2019, the blockchain space saw the development of initial exchange offerings, or IEOs. Spearheaded by Binance crypto exchange, IEOs allow a crypto exchange to raise funds on behalf of new projects seeking capital. The science behind initial parachain offeringsAs the blockchain space continues to mature, another crowdfunding mechanism has come into play. Referred to as an initial parachain offering, or IPO, this framework comes from Web3 Foundation’s flagship project, Polkadot. Peter Mauric, head of public affairs at Parity Technologies — a blockchain company building the foundations for Web 3.0 — told Cointelegraph that an IPO allows emerging projects to obtain a parachain slot on the Polkadot network. “Polkadot is a protocol of protocols where the Relay Chain provides layer-zero security and interoperability, and all the parachains attached operate as sovereign layer-one blockchains. We have seen many thousands of exciting projects launch implementations as smart contracts on protocols like Ethereum, and any of those and more will find life as a Polkadot parachain a much more efficient, powerful and optimized developer and user experience.”It’s important to point out that Polkadot’s entire architecture is based on the concept of parachains, which are independent, cross-communicating blockchain networks. In order for a parachain to be added to Polkadot, it must secure an available parachain slot. However, only a limited number of parachain slots exist. Polkadot’s goal is to have 100 parachain slots available on its network.Polkadot’s native token, Dot, is also required to bond a parachain to take advantage of the network’s scalability, security, interoperability and governance functionality. Therefore, parachain teams will need to acquire Dot tokens through a permissionless auction process. While teams could buy Dot on the open market, Mauric mentioned that most parachain projects will undergo an IPO to participate in these auctions, allowing teams to accept Dot loans from any Dot holder. According to Mauric, funds secured through this module would go into an account on the Polkadot Relay Chain. If the project is able to secure enough contributions to win the auction, then the Dot loans will be returned to the contributors at the end of the parachain lease period. If the project is unable to secure enough contributions and the auction is lost, then the Dot loans will be returned to contributors immediately. How IPOs differ from ICOs and IEOsIPOs vary in a number of ways from what was previously seen with ICOs and IEOs. The most obvious distinction is the amount of transparency and flexibility investors should gain. For example, unlike the ICO boom where investors would send cryptocurrency to teams that could easily pull the rug, stakeholders are guaranteed to regain access to their Dot at the end of each lease period.Mauric noted that with an IPO, Dot holders are simply lending their tokens to a team for a period of time in order for them to win a parachain slot. “This is a much safer, fairer arrangement for parachain teams because stakeholders regain access to their Dot at the end of the lease period,” he said.Terry Rossi, head of investments at Blockchange Ventures — a venture capital firm investing in early-stage blockchain companies — told Cointelegraph that initial parachain offerings are also a better funding model compared to previous frameworks because IPO funds are held in a dedicated account on-chain: “Funds are required to be used for a parachain bond, so the model brings more transparency and accountability to the projects than was possible in prior models, such as ICOs.”And unlike IEOs where projects have to carefully be vetted by exchanges, Rossi mentioned that IPOs give Dot holders more flexibility and choices. He explains that IPOs allow investors to generate returns from staking, or to use their tokens to get exposure to other exciting parachain projects. “This opens up a wide variety of avenues for Dot holders to help projects get off the ground, diversify their investments,” he commented. Yet another flawed crowdfunding attempt?While initial parachain offerings are still early in development, it’s notable that some companies have already announced they will be conducting an IPO. For example, Acala Network, a decentralized finance hub for Polkadot and Kusama, will be one of the first companies to host an IPO to crowdfund Dot and Kusama’s native token, KSM. Bette Chen, a co-founder of Acala, told Cointelegraph that the company has chosen to do an IPO since it seems to be the ethical way to crowdfund, enabling the distribution of tokens into the “hands of well-intentioned community members.” Chen also commented that Acala is aiming to become the first parachain on each network, noting that the IPO framework forces companies to create real value within the parachain slot lease period. One initiative Acala aims to create early on is to provide staking for collators. This is important since it’s currently not possible to participate in an IPO using staked Dot. According to Chen, Acala aims to provide collator incentives to package and submit transactions to the Polkadot Relay Chain.Although IPOs attempt to bring about innovation, challenges remain. For instance, Mauric mentioned that as more parachains are bonded, the work required to gather a community of supporters for a new parachain could become difficult since stakeholders will likely be spread among many projects. Additionally, IPOs will benefit the Polkadot community rather than the blockchain community at large, proving to be much more niche than ICOs or IEOs.","image":{"url":"https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/s3.cointelegraph.com/uploads/2020-10/9b502006-248d-4d69-ac48-c7878425eb4c.jpg","_id":"6864062cbc7697fc3e6dfbbe"},"html":"\u003cp>Much of the current blockchain ecosystem has been built around traditional concepts. Therefore, it’s not surprising to see crowdfunding mechanisms tailored specifically for blockchain projects that resemble initial public offerings. \u003c/p>\u003cp>For example, in 2017, the blockchain space witnessed the rise of initial coin offerings, and while the ICO framework quickly attracted billions of dollars in venture capital, the approach was flawed, as any investor could participate by sending cryptocurrency to a project that had nothing to show for in terms of proof but a website (and sometimes a white paper). Unsurprisingly, many ICOs turned out to be fraudulent, resulting in a boom-and-bust period throughout 2018. \u003c/p>\u003cp>Then, in 2019, the blockchain space saw the development of initial exchange offerings, or IEOs. Spearheaded by Binance crypto exchange, IEOs allow a crypto exchange to raise funds on behalf of new projects seeking capital. \u003c/p>\u003ch2>The science behind initial parachain offerings\u003c/h2>\u003cp>As the blockchain space continues to mature, another crowdfunding mechanism has come into play. Referred to as an initial parachain offering, or IPO, this framework comes from Web3 Foundation’s flagship project, Polkadot. \u003c/p>\u003cp>Peter Mauric, head of public affairs at Parity Technologies — a blockchain company building the foundations for Web 3.0 — told Cointelegraph that an IPO allows emerging projects to obtain a parachain slot on the Polkadot network. \u003c/p>\u003cblockquote>“Polkadot is a protocol of protocols where the Relay Chain provides layer-zero security and interoperability, and all the parachains attached operate as sovereign layer-one blockchains. We have seen many thousands of exciting projects launch implementations as smart contracts on protocols like Ethereum, and any of those and more will find life as a Polkadot parachain a much more efficient, powerful and optimized developer and user experience.”\u003c/blockquote>\u003cp>It’s important to point out that Polkadot’s \u003ca href=\"https://cointelegraph.com/news/polkadot-launches-testnet-for-sharding-cross-communication/amp\" target=\"_blank\">entire architecture is based on the concept of parachains\u003c/a>, which are independent, cross-communicating blockchain networks. In order for a parachain to be added to Polkadot, it must secure an available parachain slot. However, only a limited number of parachain slots exist. Polkadot’s \u003ca href=\"https://wiki.polkadot.network/docs/en/learn-auction#:~:text=A%20parachain%20slot%20is%20a,limited%20amount%20will%20be%20available.&text=The%20parachain%20slots%20of%20Polkadot,be%20secure%20on%20a%20blockchain.\" target=\"_blank\">goal\u003c/a> is to have 100 parachain slots available on its network.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Polkadot’s native token, Dot, is also required to bond a parachain to take advantage of the network’s scalability, security, interoperability and governance functionality. Therefore, parachain teams will need to acquire Dot tokens through a permissionless auction process. While teams could buy Dot on the open market, Mauric mentioned that most parachain projects will undergo an IPO to participate in these auctions, allowing teams to accept Dot loans from any Dot holder. \u003c/p>\u003cp>According to Mauric, funds secured through this module would go into an account on the Polkadot Relay Chain. If the project is able to secure enough contributions to win the auction, then the Dot loans will be returned to the contributors at the end of the parachain lease period. If the project is unable to secure enough contributions and the auction is lost, then the Dot loans will be returned to contributors immediately. \u003c/p>\u003ch2>How IPOs differ from ICOs and IEOs\u003c/h2>\u003cp>IPOs vary in a number of ways from what was previously seen with ICOs and IEOs. The most obvious distinction is the amount of transparency and flexibility investors should gain. For example, unlike the ICO boom where investors would send cryptocurrency to teams that could easily pull the rug, stakeholders are guaranteed to regain access to their Dot at the end of each lease period.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Mauric noted that with an IPO, Dot holders are simply lending their tokens to a team for a period of time in order for them to win a parachain slot. “This is a much safer, fairer arrangement for parachain teams because stakeholders regain access to their Dot at the end of the lease period,” he said.\u003c/p>\u003cp>Terry Rossi, head of investments at Blockchange Ventures — a venture capital firm investing in early-stage blockchain companies — told Cointelegraph that initial parachain offerings are also a better funding model compared to previous frameworks because IPO funds are held in a dedicated account on-chain: “Funds are required to be used for a parachain bond, so the model brings more transparency and accountability to the projects than was possible in prior models, such as ICOs.”\u003c/p>\u003cp>And unlike IEOs where projects have to carefully be vetted by exchanges, Rossi mentioned that IPOs give Dot holders more flexibility and choices. He explains that IPOs allow investors to generate returns from staking, or to use their tokens to get exposure to other exciting parachain projects. “This opens up a wide variety of avenues for Dot holders to help projects get off the ground, diversify their investments,” he commented. \u003c/p>\u003ch2>Yet another flawed crowdfunding attempt?\u003c/h2>\u003cp>While initial parachain offerings are still early in development, it’s notable that some companies have already announced they will be conducting an IPO. 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According to earlier reports, American Bitcoin is 80% owned by Hut 8, with the Trump brothers owning 20%.\u003c/p>\u003cdiv class=\"article-ad ad-desktop relative w-[calc(100vw-10px)] md:translate-x-[-50%] md:left-[49.5%] lg:left-[75.5%] xl:left-[49.75%]\">\u003cdiv class=\"color-black relative flex items-start justify-center aw1440px ah280px\" style=\"height:280px\">\u003cdiv id=\"article_desktop_1\" style=\"width:1440px;height:280px\" class=\"transition-box duration-250 align-center background-repeat relative flex items-start justify-center ease-in [&>iframe]:m-auto aw1440px ah280px\">\u003c/div>\u003cdiv style=\"width:1440px;height:280px\" class=\"min-w-full animate-shimmer will-change-background-position via-18% to-33% from-8% absolute mb-0 ml-auto mr-auto mt-0 flex items-center justify-center bg-gradient-to-r from-[#f6f7f8] via-[#edeef1] to-[#f6f7f8] bg-[length:200%_100%] opacity-100 aw1440px ah280px\">\u003csvg xmlns:xlink=\"http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\" width=\"100\" height=\"75\" viewBox=\"0 0 100 75\" fill=\"none\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\" class=\"opacity-30 [&>path]:fill-[#DCDCDD]\">\u003cpath d=\"M37.1542 40.7009C39.0349 40.7009 40.5594 39.1733 40.5594 37.2889C40.5594 35.4045 39.0349 33.877 37.1542 33.877C35.2736 33.877 33.749 35.4045 33.749 37.2889C33.749 39.1733 35.2736 40.7009 37.1542 40.7009Z\" fill=\"#F8BF1E\">\u003c/path>\u003cpath d=\"M64.3066 40.7009C66.1872 40.7009 67.7118 39.1733 67.7118 37.2889C67.7118 35.4045 66.1872 33.877 64.3066 33.877C62.4259 33.877 60.9014 35.4045 60.9014 37.2889C60.9014 39.1733 62.4259 40.7009 64.3066 40.7009Z\" fill=\"#F8BF1E\">\u003c/path>\u003cpath d=\"M64.3066 67.9515C66.1872 67.9515 67.7118 66.4239 67.7118 64.5395C67.7118 62.6552 66.1872 61.1276 64.3066 61.1276C62.4259 61.1276 60.9014 62.6552 60.9014 64.5395C60.9014 66.4239 62.4259 67.9515 64.3066 67.9515Z\" fill=\"#F8BF1E\">\u003c/path>\u003cpath d=\"M74.2978 9.40948C73.9393 4.42622 69.9517 0.385744 64.9783 0.0265903C61.7971 -0.197881 58.9295 1.01426 56.9133 3.0794C55.3899 4.65069 53.3289 5.59347 51.1334 5.59347H50.3269C48.0867 5.59347 45.9808 4.65069 44.4126 3.0345C42.5756 1.14894 40.0217 0.0265903 37.199 0.0265903C34.3762 0.0265903 31.8223 1.19384 29.9853 3.0345C28.4171 4.65069 26.3113 5.59347 24.071 5.59347H23.3093C21.1139 5.59347 19.008 4.74048 17.4846 3.16919C17.171 2.85493 16.8573 2.54067 16.5437 2.2713C12.7353 -0.8264 7.13459 -0.736612 3.46056 2.54067C-0.975169 6.44646 -1.15439 13.2704 2.9677 17.4006C3.01251 17.4455 3.05731 17.4904 3.10212 17.5353C4.71511 19.0617 5.56641 21.2167 5.56641 23.4165V24.1797C5.56641 26.4244 4.6255 28.5344 3.0125 30.1057C1.13068 31.9464 0.0105495 34.5053 0.0105495 37.3337C0.0105495 40.162 1.17549 42.721 3.0125 44.5617C4.6255 46.133 5.56641 48.243 5.56641 50.4877V51.5203C5.56641 53.7201 4.6255 55.7852 3.05731 57.3116C1.08588 59.2421 -0.123866 61.9806 0.0105495 64.9885C0.234576 70.286 4.53588 74.551 9.77811 74.7306C12.8249 74.8204 15.558 73.6082 17.4846 71.588C19.008 70.0167 21.069 69.029 23.2645 69.029H24.1158C26.3113 69.029 28.3723 69.9718 29.8957 71.588C31.9119 73.698 34.8243 74.9101 38.0055 74.6857C42.9788 74.3265 47.0113 70.286 47.3698 65.2579C47.773 59.287 43.1133 54.3486 37.2438 54.3486C34.4658 54.3486 31.9119 55.4709 30.0749 57.3116C28.5067 58.8829 26.4009 59.8257 24.2054 59.8257H23.2645C21.069 59.8257 18.9184 58.9727 17.3502 57.3565C17.3054 57.3116 17.3054 57.3116 17.2606 57.2667C15.6476 55.6954 14.7067 53.5854 14.7067 51.3407V50.4428C14.7067 48.1981 15.6476 46.0881 17.2606 44.5168C19.1424 42.6761 20.2626 40.1171 20.2626 37.2888C20.2626 34.4605 19.0976 31.9015 17.2606 30.0608C15.6476 28.4895 14.7067 26.3795 14.7067 24.1348V23.3267C14.7067 21.082 15.6476 18.9719 17.2158 17.4006C17.2606 17.3558 17.2606 17.3558 17.3054 17.3109C17.3502 17.266 17.3502 17.266 17.395 17.2211C18.9632 15.6498 21.069 14.707 23.3093 14.707H24.1158C26.3561 14.707 28.4619 15.6498 30.0301 17.266C31.8671 19.1515 34.421 20.2739 37.2438 20.2739C40.0665 20.2739 42.6204 19.1066 44.4574 17.266C46.0256 15.6498 48.1315 14.707 50.3717 14.707H51.0886C53.3289 14.707 55.4347 15.6498 57.0029 17.266C58.8399 19.1515 61.3938 20.2739 64.2166 20.2739C70.0413 20.3188 74.701 15.3804 74.2978 9.40948Z\" fill=\"#F8BF1E\">\u003c/path>\u003c/svg>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003cp>In May, the firm \u003ca href=\"https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2025/05/12/trump-family-backed-american-bitcoin-to-go-public-via-merger-with-gryphon-digital\">announced it is vying a public listing\u003c/a> by merging with Gryphon Digital Mining \u003c!-- -->(GRYP)\u003c!-- -->. Hut 8’s share are down 0.86% in pre-market trading at $18.44.\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003cem>Read more: \u003ca href=\"https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2025/05/12/trump-family-backed-american-bitcoin-to-go-public-via-merger-with-gryphon-digital\">Trump Family-Backed American Bitcoin to Go Public via Merger With Gryphon Digital\u003c/a>\u003c/em>\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003cdiv data-module-name=\"article-tags\" data-module-version=\"1.0.0\" data-module-instance=\"default\" class=\"article-content-wrapper my-7\">\u003cdiv class=\"flex gap-4 flex-wrap\">\u003ca class=\"px-4 py-2 rounded border bd-charcoal-300 hover:bg-charcoal-25 focus:border-charcoal-600 font-sans text-xs text-charcoal-600 hover:text-charcoal-900 focus:text-charcoal-900 leading-4 tracking-wide transition-all whitespace-nowrap capitalize max-w-[38ch] inline-block overflow-hidden text-ellipsis\" href=\"/tag/hut-8\">Hut 8\u003c/a>\u003ca class=\"px-4 py-2 rounded border bd-charcoal-300 hover:bg-charcoal-25 focus:border-charcoal-600 font-sans text-xs text-charcoal-600 hover:text-charcoal-900 focus:text-charcoal-900 leading-4 tracking-wide transition-all whitespace-nowrap capitalize max-w-[38ch] inline-block overflow-hidden text-ellipsis\" href=\"/tag/bitcoin-miners\">Bitcoin Miners\u003c/a>\u003ca class=\"px-4 py-2 rounded border bd-charcoal-300 hover:bg-charcoal-25 focus:border-charcoal-600 font-sans text-xs text-charcoal-600 hover:text-charcoal-900 focus:text-charcoal-900 leading-4 tracking-wide transition-all whitespace-nowrap capitalize max-w-[38ch] inline-block overflow-hidden text-ellipsis\" href=\"/tag/trump\">Trump\u003c/a>\u003c/div>\u003c/div>\u003cdiv data-module-name=\"authors-block\" data-module-version=\"1.0.0\" data-module-instance=\"default\" class=\"article-content-wrapper mt-6 flex gap-8 justify-between\">\u003cdiv class=\"flex flex-col\">\u003ch5 class=\"font-headline-sm font-medium\">\u003ca class=\"hover:underline\" href=\"/author/francisco-rodrigues\">Francisco Rodrigues\u003c/a>\u003c/h5>\u003cdiv class=\"my-2 line-clamp-3 text-charcoal-600 font-body\">\u003cdiv class=\"document-body font-body-lg\">\u003cp>Francisco is a reporter for CoinDesk with a passion for cryptocurrencies and personal finance. 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